Kalash / Hunza tribes & the Burushaski Language

[Soldier of Macedon]

I know you would claim he was on the Greek payroll,but Kalash claimed Greek origin long before Macedonia became independent (I think you undesrtand my point here) and any Greek volunteers or Greek aid reached their country:

They claim descent from Alexander's army, who were overwhelmingly Macedonian, and not Greek. If they have preserved some customs or stories that were left over by the soldiers, writers, engineers, architects, etc, good luck to them. To try and paint them with an 'ethnic Greek' brush is wierd to everybody aside from yourself.

I am still waiting for you to corroborate your earlier statement, where you claimed that Greeks are building schools to teach the Kalash in their own language and not Greek.

[Bill77]

However the Kalash teacher when asked "Do you believe you have Greek origin" he answers "History says so".

Shit....... if Grigorov can can distance him self from the ancient Macedonians and virtually hand history to greece, all because of a few Euro's, these poor isolated people would have no problem dancing the zorba for money or any other spoils.

[fyrOM]

Is it really an either or situation…didn’t Alexander have any Greek soldiers with him as well as his Macedonian soldiers. Further to the mix some afghan and Pakistan.

What is difficult to accept is the modern Greeks forcing their modern version of Greek on to them for political gain.

Being of mixed marriage and separated by a couple of millennia it is not unusual that they would see their own identity first. Have you not seen Vietnamese kids born to white and black usa soldiers not being accepted by the Vietnamese. If these kids then could have lived in some isolated part separate from the main Vietnamese community would they not feel a sense of self identity after 2 millennia or would you expect them to be American.


2.13 kalash kafirs literally translated to black infidels
hahaha Macedonian word for dark person kalesh
Why would they be the dark person…imagine a white person
marries a dark person natural biology is that the children will
be predominantly dark…kalesh


4.05 oral culture nothing written down
How many times have you heard Greeks say if there was a Macedonian
culture different to Greek how come there is nothing written or carved
to show for it…write what no written alphabet.
If they are of Greek decent with Greek language and alphabet already
Established at this time would you not expect anything written
Or carved out in stone in Greek.

5-13 ionic style but also kalash style of the new building by the Greek volunteer.
What a claim…see 7.50 where the kalash man says it is not the kalash way but when someone is giving you for free something you need.


5.50 Verginia star seen in Greek museum
With the Greek occupation of Macedonia I would expect things dug up would be put in a Greek museum but the inference then that it is Greek has no substantiation.


6.27 kalsh love of wine
Despite Christianity many pre-Christian rituals
exist under a now Christian banner.
The rites of the vine even now have their own saint
Sveti Trifun.
Did someone on the video say love wine.


7.50 building in their own way and not kalsh way its not fair.

[fyrOM]

2.13 in the video kalash kafirs literally translated to black infidels
hahaha Macedonian word for dark person kalesh
Why would they be the dark person…imagine a white person
marries a dark person natural biology is that the children will
be predominantly dark…kalesh


4.05 oral culture nothing written down
How many times have you heard Greeks say if there was a Macedonian
culture different to Greek how come there is nothing written or carved
to show for it…write what no written alphabet.
If they are of Greek decent with Greek language and alphabet already
Established at this time would you not expect anything written
Or carved out in stone in Greek.

just wanted to highlight these two points

[makedonche]

Agamoi Thytai

i would appreciate an answer to my previous questions, here they are again in case you missed them:-

AT
Quote:-
"And i don't find it weird that the Greek government aids these people founding schools (in their own language,not in Greek as you said),"

Were you aware that the Greek philanthropists insited on Ionic(Greek) colums as the facade on these schools' buildings? Don't you find that wierd? If you were building schools in a foreign country and expecting the local population to attend these schools wouldn't you build them in an architectual style reflecting the local character?

[Burushaskiresearch]

Similarities between Burushaski & Macedonian Language

Salam. I will check the videos.

From what i know about your (if you are member of the Hunza or the Kalash people), history, it is best to make list of your "arhaic" words, words that the older people know and used it, couse i am very sure, many "Pakistani" words entered your language in the last ~ 30-40 years.

Greetings / Regards

Most of the words in these videos are commonly used by both old and young in Hunza in daily Burushaski speaking.

I will be thankful to you response


Regard = JuuMar

[Soldier of Macedon]

Burushaskiresearch, are you a Hunza or Macedonian? Can't you post a list of words for body parts, foods, tools, etc in Burushaski so we can compare?

What is your opinion on the Burushaski-Macedonian words that were cited on this thread? Are they credible?

[George S.]

the greeks visiting the kaleshi or hunza people is nothing more than to make them abandon their normal language & for them to adopt the greek language so that the greeks can say that they are greek.But the people have allready said they are not greek but macedonian.
So agamoi & others who think they can ofload themselves to these people & brainwash them into thinking they are greek.We are onto you allready.We know what your stupid government is upto.

[The LION will ROAR]

Burushaskiresearch are these words/Meanings correct..?

ENGLISH / BURUSHI / MACEDONIAN
HAND / SHAKA / SHAKA
Arm / RAKA / RAKA
Thunder / GROM / GROM
Raining / VRNE / VRNE
Looking / GLEDA / GLEDA
sit(down) / SEDI / SEDI
Drink / PIE / PIE
Beautiful /UBAVA / UBAVA

Those are just few of the words that are jointly used by the Burushi and Kalash people

[The LION will ROAR]

The pictures from below, are pieces of the Kalash folklore...You know the Kalash tribe in Pakistan that claim connection with the ancient Macedonians...





And look down now, the same vortex is represented in the Macedonian folklore! Coincidence???






Note: The wooden case is from the 17th century and it is stationed in the Macedonian ethno museum, and the stone is found in Osinchani, near Skopje. Dates somewhere 4th century BC.

[The LION will ROAR]

That Greek Man in the Youtube link that Quote: "All of these symbols I have seen in the Greek Museums"

SO DOES THE BRITISH MUSEUMS, BUT WE HAVE THEM ON OUR BUILDINGS, CHURCHES, FURNITURE, CLOTHING, ORNAMENTS / JEWELLERY AND SO ON...
WHY CAN'T YOU FIND THIS IN GREECE..?

[Burushaskiresearch]

Burushaskiresearch, are you a Hunza or Macedonian? Can't you post a list of words for body parts, foods, tools, etc in Burushaski so we can compare?

What is your opinion on the Burushaski-Macedonian words that were cited on this thread? Are they credible?

Burusho Birkis is a comprehensive burushaski book Listed animals, birds , vegetables, fruits, tools , parts of body etc
Plz gothough this book :

http://www.scribd.com/doc/34412141/Buru%C5%9Bo-Birki%C5%9F-Burusho-Birkish

[Frank]

The word drink yet another

drink / piJat / piJat

[Frank]

YouTube - Macedonians-Decendents from Alexander the Great

Macedonians-Decendents from Alexander the Great

In parts

[DirtyCodingHabitz]

Part 2
YouTube - Macedonian Decendents from Alexander the Great

Part 3
YouTube - Macedonian Decendents From Alexander the Great-Pakistan

Part 4
YouTube - Macedonian Decendents From Alexander the Great-Pakistan