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Its funny to think how similar the word Kalashis to kalesh not black not blond just a little dark. Makes you think.
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Greeks are soon going to say India are greek decendents
The Kalash people have interesting rituals and they have a monument where they say Alexsander stood. Their bloodline is so pure they stick within their tribe and surrounding areas when they look for mates.Makedoncite se borat
za svoite pravdini!
"The one who works for joining of Macedonia to Bulgaria,Greece or Serbia can consider himself as a good Bulgarian, Greek or Serb, but not a good Macedonian"
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The next level of investigation should be in the realm of DNA to add weight (or not) to these beliefsThe one who tells the story rules the World - Hopi proverb
“Your highness, when I said that you are like a stream of bat's piss, I only meant that you shine out like a shaft of gold when all around is dark” - Monty PythonComment
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I agree. Haven't there already been some studies done?Originally posted by blackcactus View PostIn the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.Comment
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YouTube - live Hunza people, descendens of the armies of Alexandar the!
SoM
That would be interesting if some scientists from macedonia went over to start a study.Makedoncite se borat
za svoite pravdini!
"The one who works for joining of Macedonia to Bulgaria,Greece or Serbia can consider himself as a good Bulgarian, Greek or Serb, but not a good Macedonian"
- Goce DelchevComment
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the greeks have!Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View Post
POSTER NO: 533
Investigation of the Greek ancestry of northern Pakistani ethnic groups using Y chromosomal DNA variation
1Q. Ayub, 1A. Mansoor, 1A. Mohyuddin, 1K. Mazhar, 1S. Siddiqi, 2M. Papaioannou, 3C. Tyler-Smith, 1S.Q. Mehdi
1Biomedical and Genetic Engineering Division, Dr. A.Q. Khan Research Laboratories, P.O. Box 2891, Islamabad 44000, Pakistan, 2Unit of Prenatal Diagnosis, Center for Thalassemia, Laiko General Hospital, Athens, Greece, 3CRC Chromosome Molecular Biology Group, Department of Biochemistry, University of oxford, Oxford, UK
Pakistan lies in a region that has witnessed multiple invasions and migrations over the centuries. Alexander the Great invaded the Indian sub-continent in 327-325 B.C. and three northern Pakistani populations, the Burusho, the Kalash and the Pathan claim descent from Greek soldiers who were left behind in this region. The Burusho reside in the Hunza and Nagar valleys, which are located in the Karakorum Mountains and speak the language isolate Burushaski. The Kalash have been isolated for centuries in the Hindu Kush mountain ranges of northern Pakistan and speak Kalasha, an Indo-European language. The Pathan tribes inhabit the North West Frontier Province of Pakistan and the southern and eastern parts of neighboring Afghanistan. They speak Pushto, also an Indo-European language. To investigate the male-line genetic relationship between the extant Greek population (assuming that modern Greek are representative of Alexander's armies) and the three Pakistani ethnic groups, 16 binary unique event polymorphisms, and 16 multiallelic, short-tandem-repeat (STR) loci, mapping on the non-recombining portion of the human Y chromosome were typed in 910 individuals. The combination of the biallelic markers identified 7 stable Y chromosomal lineages in the Greek, Burusho and Pathan populations and 5 in the Kalash. Haplogroups 1, 2, 3 and 9 were present in all four populations. The M20 A to G transition (haplogroup 28) was found in all three Pakistani populations but was absent in the Greeks. This polymorphism probably originated in or near Pakistan as it has not been found at a significant frequency except in this area. Haplogroup 21 was frequent in the Greeks but in these Pakistani populations was found only in the Pathans. Based upon haplogroup frequencies, 65-88% Greek admixture was estimated for the Kalash, consistent with a Greek origin for a significant proportion of Kalash Y chomosomes. However, the Kalash lack haplogroup 21 chromosomes and appeared distinct from the Greeks based upon principal components analysis of haplogroup frequencies and weighted population pairwise FST values based on STR variation within Y Haplogroups. They clearly contain a substantial proportion of Pakistani Y chromosomes, illustrated by their high frequency of hg 28, and the true Greek contribution remains uncertain. Estimates of Greek Y admixture for the Pathans were about 10%, and for the Burusho were close to zero. Median-joining networks of STR haplotypes revealed considerable sub-structuring of Y variation within the Kalash and Burusho, and in particular the haplogroup 21 network showed that the Pathan chromosomes were closely related to the central Greek cluster. Thus a small Greek contribution to the Pathans seems likely, the contribution to the Kalash is unclear and no contribution to the Burusho could be detected.Comment
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The Language of Those who Claim to be Descant of the Ancient Makedoni
YouTube - Burushaski Alphabets
the language of the Hunza People
they call it Burusha-SKI
have fun watching it
Bratot:
Никој не е вечен, а каузава не е нова само е адаптирана на новите услови и ќе се пренесува и понатаму.Comment
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here some additional material:
Ilija Chashule "Basic Burushaski Etymologies"(Muenchen Newcastle , ISBN 3 89586 0891) with the similarities between the modern Macedonian and Burushaski language:
BU:
ASHMILAS, ASHMILJ = to pacify, placade, persuade, also MILI as a title for the beloved in folk song.
PRO-SLAV:
mil`= dear,
LYTV: mylas and meilus = dear.
MK:
MIL =dear, Smiluva, Smili = to pacify.
BU:
ASPALAS, ASPALJ = to kindle, light
PROSlAV:
Paliti = to burn, to set in flames.
MK:
SPALE,ZAPALE = to burn, to set in flames.
BU:
ASH = neck, nape of neck, external trhoat.The locativ of the ASH is ASHI
PSlav, MK:
Shija = neck.It is also related to the word SHITI = to sew
The BURushaski word in its special locative form both semantically and phonetically parallels Slavic.
BU:
BALKAS( IN LOCATIV: BILKIS) = treasure
SOUTH SLAV: BLAGO = treasure
MK NAME: BLAGA = treasure.
BU:
BERKAT = Berg, Mountain.
MK: BREG= Berg, Mountain.
PROSLAV:
BERG´ = berg, Mountain
BU:
BIRI= boiling
MK: VRIE = boiling...as so many times mentioned, B and V are changed many times, Servia=Serbia.
BU:
BÚR = a single hair.
ANC MK :
ABROUWES = eye brows
PRO SLAV, Old SLAV:
BRY, (GENETIV: BR'EVE) = eye brow.
BU:
D*- ASPASAS, D*-SPASASH = to protect, save, rescue.
MK:
SPASE = save,
DA SPASESH = to save someone.
BU:
DELAS, DELIAS, DELJ = 1)to beat, strike, smite, hit, shoot,...2) to kill to slay
SANSKRIT:
DALATI = crack, splits
PRO SLAV:
DELATI = to work.
MK:
DELIA = Mythical Hero who kills the Turks.
GARU( ALSO: GARÚKI) = spring
ALSO: GARÚM = hot GARÚRUM = hot, warm, AS NOUN: GARÚRUMKUSH = heat.
GARI = lamp, light , pupil of eye.
ANC MK:
GORPIAIOS = a hot Macedonian Month
MK:
GREE = warm, to warm
GARE= warming meal, cook soup.
BU:
GIRATAS; GIRASH = to dance, play
OLD SLAV, MK:
IGRA = dance, play
MK:
IGRASH = you play, nominative form from IGRA.
from
Bratot:
Никој не е вечен, а каузава не е нова само е адаптирана на новите услови и ќе се пренесува и понатаму.Comment
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lag / double post...Bratot:
Никој не е вечен, а каузава не е нова само е адаптирана на новите услови и ќе се пренесува и понатаму.Comment
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The simularity's are pretty cool. Wonder of the greeks will challenge this and say their writing looks similar to greek letters bah!
Makedoncite se borat
za svoite pravdini!
"The one who works for joining of Macedonia to Bulgaria,Greece or Serbia can consider himself as a good Bulgarian, Greek or Serb, but not a good Macedonian"
- Goce DelchevComment
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they have
Љ / lj
Њ / nj
Џ / dj
Ѓ / gj
Ѕ / dz
i think the first 3 are also found in todays bulgarian and serbo-croatian (not in greek, as far i know)
but Gj and Dz are tipical Macedonian Letters / Sounds
Greeks can not even pronounce them
(all of the above mentioned)
Bratot:
Никој не е вечен, а каузава не е нова само е адаптирана на новите услови и ќе се пренесува и понатаму.Comment
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That is right they only try to pretend they can but in true light they have no friggen idea.
Its funny when a greek challenges you and you call him a fucking idiot in Macedonian and they look at you with a
look. Seeing were so "Culturally close to greekness" you think they would understand our language if they are one of us 
:rmacedonia
Makedoncite se borat
za svoite pravdini!
"The one who works for joining of Macedonia to Bulgaria,Greece or Serbia can consider himself as a good Bulgarian, Greek or Serb, but not a good Macedonian"
- Goce DelchevComment
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Do you guys really believe you are related to these peoples,Burusho,Hunza,Kalash?"What high honour do the Macedonians deserve, who throughout nearly their whole lives are ceaselessly engaged in a struggle with the barbarians for the safety of the Greeks?"
Polybius, Histories, 9.35Comment
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yes we do & so what if we do what you are jealous now."Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
GOTSE DELCEVComment
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It's more important what they say about themselves.The purpose of the media is not to make you to think that the name must be changed, but to get you into debate - what name would suit us! - BratotComment
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