Turkish forces liquidated 15 women PKK fighters

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  • Vangelovski
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 8534

    #91
    Originally posted by Onur View Post
    Nope. There was never a state, country or a nation called kurdistan here throughout history. So, your so-called kurdistan nation as shallow as illyrian nation which includes Macedonia.
    Don't play the goldfish with me Onur, I've already given you examples of Kurdish states in the previous thread we discussed this. Besides, a state and a nation are two completely separate entities and you are now again denying the existence of a Kurdish nation, violating their basic rights a second time in the same number of days. Further, the Kurdish people, who are indigenous to Kurdistan, have been there much longer than the Turkish settler population who are occupiers and failed colonists.
    If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

    The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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    • Zarni
      Banned
      • May 2011
      • 672

      #92
      God knows why the Kurds are consuming you so much Vangelovski are you their freaking PR man

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      • Vangelovski
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 8534

        #93
        Originally posted by Zarni View Post
        God knows why the Kurds are consuming you so much Vangelovski are you their freaking PR man
        Unlike you Zarni, I have principles that I hold to. Farts in the wind are just that - they'll go for anything, even Tito space programs.
        If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

        The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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        • Zarni
          Banned
          • May 2011
          • 672

          #94
          I noticed you react with mention to everyone and quickly make it personal you seem like a grumpy old man
          Lets not get carried coz I don’t care to dont you understand sarcasm and humour sometimes cheeez

          If you like take up PKK post then fight for Macedonian Interests as a part time gig

          You are best left ignored on this thread because my POV together with Georges on looking after your own and Macedonian collective Interests has kicked a few dick-heads out of whack and good for that
          Last edited by Zarni; 03-28-2012, 09:54 PM.

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          • Vangelovski
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 8534

            #95
            Originally posted by Zarni View Post
            I noticed you react with mention to everyone and quickly make it personal you seem like a grumpy old man
            Lets not get carried coz I don’t care to dont you understand sarcasm and humour sometimes cheeez

            If you like take up PKK post then fight for Macedonian Interests as a part time gig

            You are best left ignored on this thread because my POV together with Georges on looking after your own and Macedonian collective Interests has kicked a few dick-heads out of whack and good for that
            Zarni, I have no idea what you just tried to ramble out in this post - I think it should be filed away in "Toby's Corner".
            If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

            The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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            • fatso
              Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 301

              #96
              Originally posted by Zarni View Post
              God knows why the Kurds are consuming you so much Vangelovski are you their freaking PR man
              The difference between Vangelovski and you ...is that he is a human being.

              Your " kill them all " statement is inhumane and sad.

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              • Zarni
                Banned
                • May 2011
                • 672

                #97
                I like you Fatso but now you are being just plain silly

                Killing Terrorist scum is good for the Darwinian order or don’t you agree

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                • Zarni
                  Banned
                  • May 2011
                  • 672

                  #98
                  Zarni, I have no idea what you just tried to ramble out in this post
                  Yeah you do you are just playing your cards

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                  • Risto the Great
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 15661

                    #99
                    Originally posted by Zarni View Post
                    Killing Terrorist scum is good for the Darwinian order or don’t you agree
                    VMRO were terrorists to most people back 100 years ago.
                    Risto the Great
                    MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                    "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                    Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                    • Vangelovski
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 8534

                      Originally posted by Zarni View Post
                      Yeah you do you are just playing your cards
                      Maybe if you tried using the correct words in the correct context, I would, but failing that, its worse than Toby's ramble.
                      If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

                      The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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                      • Zarni
                        Banned
                        • May 2011
                        • 672

                        Risto are you one of those Macedonians standing up for collective rights because it is the right thing to do as a Citizen of the World

                        If the Agaean Macedonians took to arms against the Greek State I would be proud of them and certainly see them as Freedom Fighters

                        On Principles bloody principles......... until others hold to those values then we achieved a goal
                        again for the million time counting all but Georges and Onur get it

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                        • Zarni
                          Banned
                          • May 2011
                          • 672

                          Maybe if you tried using the correct words in the correct context, I would, but failing that, its worse than Toby's ramble.
                          Comment my observation about you if you are have such a difficulty understanding my post

                          Are we going to be Keyboard enemies now is that what you want

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                          • Vangelovski
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 8534

                            Zarni,

                            Seeing as you want to put Macedonia's national interest before principal (which is not possible as in my view, which is quite clear by now, inalienable natural rights ARE Macedonia's national interest), what do you see as Macedonia's national interest and how do you think Turkey has helped?
                            If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

                            The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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                            • Risto the Great
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 15661

                              Originally posted by Zarni View Post
                              Risto are you one of those Macedonians standing up for collective rights because it is the right thing to do as a Citizen of the World
                              I just think all people have rights. Don't you?

                              Originally posted by Zarni View Post
                              If the Agaean Macedonians took to arms against the Greek State I would be proud of them and certainly see them as Freedom Fighters
                              They did. They call it the Greek civil war nowadays. They lost because the Americans threw the modern equivalent of billions of dollars at the Macedonian "terrorists" to make them go away.

                              I can't really understand what else you were trying to say.
                              Risto the Great
                              MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                              "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                              Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                              • Zarni
                                Banned
                                • May 2011
                                • 672

                                Seeing as you want to put Macedonia's national interest before principal (which is not possible as in my view, which is quite clear by now, inalienable natural rights ARE Macedonia's national interest), what do you see as Macedonia's national interest and how do you think Turkey has helped?
                                I gave a scenario were just if, just if, Turkey were to engage in actions against the Kurdish PKK and asked Skopje to uphold support even when let's say for arguments sake....a EU Commission were to condemn it Would you all see it fit to lump our support for a Brussels team or have unconditional support for Turkey and risk loosing a partner like we did when we went for Taiwan's friendship and sacrificed China. And on what premise a complex conflict involving the Kurds who only Onur is qualified to speak about.

                                That reminds me of the relationship Washington has for the State of Isreal unwavering no matter what. Turkey is Macedonia's most stead fast partner and alley I can't think of any European Country with the same relationship, can any of you?

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