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  • Gocka
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    Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
    Most of the looting I've seen on Twitter is of blacks running out of shops with their arms full of everything from cheesecakes to guitars.

    Evidence of wilful damage to shops and other buildings seems to be largely perpetrated by blacks of various ages and youngish looking white kids.

    Cowardly group attacks on mostly solitary white males has been at the hands of groups of blacks and young white men.

    None appear to be "white supremacists" by their actions nor in general appearance...they look more like the- extinction rebellion cunts

    The vast bulk of this shit has nothing to do with Floyd's unfortunate death (as everybody knows), the battle is between the various groups of the political left and their hatred of Trump - not sure where white supremacists fit the bill.
    Its all online commentary that people are fixated on. People claiming to be "antifa" online, whether they really think they are part of some group or they are white nationalists trying to get blame assigned to a leftist group. Its all ветар во магла.

    Trust me the mindless thugs stealing cheese cakes and air jordans are not part of some radical leftist political movement. People need to stop focusing on twitter wars and look at the facts on the ground.

    Those facts are simple: Some people are protesting about police brutality most recently George Floyd. Some people are protesting policing in general including militarization of police. Some people are angry and want to break shit. Some people are opportunists and just want to steal shit. Some people are made about poverty. Some people hate Trump. Some people are bored from being under lock down for 2 months. Add that all together and you get utter chaos.

    You can't make any sense of it because it doesn't make any. The fact that the vast majority of people are not working due to Covid means they have nothing better to do. So everyone with a grievance is acting out one way or another.

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  • Phoenix
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    Originally posted by Carlin15 View Post
    Probably white supremacists posing as "Antifa" in many cases.
    Most of the looting I've seen on Twitter is of blacks running out of shops with their arms full of everything from cheesecakes to guitars.

    Evidence of wilful damage to shops and other buildings seems to be largely perpetrated by blacks of various ages and youngish looking white kids.

    Cowardly group attacks on mostly solitary white males has been at the hands of groups of blacks and young white men.

    None appear to be "white supremacists" by their actions nor in general appearance...they look more like the- extinction rebellion cunts

    The vast bulk of this shit has nothing to do with Floyd's unfortunate death (as everybody knows), the battle is between the various groups of the political left and their hatred of Trump - not sure where white supremacists fit the bill.

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  • Gocka
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    Originally posted by Carlin15 View Post
    - Cops come under fire during protest in St. Louis; at least 4 officers were shot in the gun battle & the scene remains active; looting and arson reported across the city

    - At least 2 shootings reported on Las Vegas Strip; police officer confirmed shot outside Circus Circus hotel-casino

    - 2 dead, 60+ arrested in Chicago suburb of Cicero as unrest continues; unclear how the deaths occurred, city spokesperson says

    - In the dead of night, the 115-year-old “Confederate Soldiers and Sailors” monument in Birmingham, Alabama is being removed
    Its getting out of control. If white nationalist groups or other counter protests pop up it could get very ugly. The police will also undoubtedly get more violent if police officers keep getting killed. There are so many potential flash points right now that could cause everything to spiral further out of control.

    As long as people keep protesting it will give cover for others to loot and riot. Even if the protests themselves are not violent, its always going to preoccupy authorities and make it harder to deal with the other elements at play.

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  • Carlin
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    Probably white supremacists posing as "Antifa" in many cases.

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  • Gocka
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    Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
    Curious to know how legitimately this Antifa bullshit movement is related the unrest.
    As much as the Diaspora nearly started a revolution in Macedonia.

    Most of them are some twitter trolls, I'm sure there is a handful of them that are on the streets. Its not a real organization, extremely loosely affiliated and like I said mostly online.

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  • Risto the Great
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    Curious to know how legitimately this Antifa bullshit movement is related the unrest.

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  • Carlin
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    - Cops come under fire during protest in St. Louis; at least 4 officers were shot in the gun battle & the scene remains active; looting and arson reported across the city

    - At least 2 shootings reported on Las Vegas Strip; police officer confirmed shot outside Circus Circus hotel-casino

    - 2 dead, 60+ arrested in Chicago suburb of Cicero as unrest continues; unclear how the deaths occurred, city spokesperson says

    - In the dead of night, the 115-year-old “Confederate Soldiers and Sailors” monument in Birmingham, Alabama is being removed
    Last edited by Carlin; 06-02-2020, 03:48 AM.

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  • Carlin
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    Trump deploys US military to restore order in Washington, DC & says he'll do the same EVERYWHERE if local govts fail.
    Last edited by Carlin; 06-01-2020, 06:04 PM.

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  • Carlin
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    Individual decides to get ballsy with National Guard in Louisville, gets shot and killed

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  • Carlin
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    From CNN

    Two dead and a police officer injured after shootings in Iowa

    Two people are dead and a police officer is injured after a series of shootings overnight in Davenport, Iowa.

    Police officers in Davenport, Iowa were ambushed by rioters overnight, authorities said in an early morning news conference.

    There's been another fatality reported, in Kentucky. At around 12:15 a.m ET, the Louisville Metro Police Department (LMPD) and National Guard units were dispatched to Dino’s Food Market to clear a large crowd in the parking lot, the police chief said during an early morning presser.

    “Officers and soldiers begin to clear the lot and at some point were shot at. Both LMPD and National Guards members returned fire, we have one man dead at the scene,” Louisville Police Chief Steve Conrad said during a new conference.

    Protests following the death of George Floyd, a black man who pleaded that he couldn’t breathe while he was held down with a knee by a former Minneapolis police officer, have spread nationwide. Follow here for the latest updates.

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  • Carlin
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    A lot of stuff is unreported or underreported in the main news channels. Maybe just hard to follow everything. Twitter/YouTube is the way to go.

    Many NYPD units in riot gear heading to Barclays Center, there is a "full blown riot" taking place right now. NYPD Chief of Department is requesting a massive "Level 3 Mobilization Response" to the Barclays Center in Brooklyn.



    Tanks in LA were reported on Twitter. Looting out of control today in Philadelphia, Santa Monica, Long Beach.



    Giant pyres burning outside the White House. Protesters burning American flags outside the White House. US Marshals & DEA agents called in to assist local law enforcement in Washington D.C.
    Last edited by Carlin; 05-31-2020, 10:48 PM.

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  • Gocka
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    Originally posted by Carlin15 View Post
    NYPD vehicle drives through "unlawful" rioters.
    https://mobile.twitter.com/rob_benne...95719455248385
    This is a bit overblown, the cops were attacked by a mob and were just trying to get away, they weren't trying to hit people with the car or disperse the crowd.

    Meanwhile, National guard and Minneapolis PD sweeping residential street. Shooting paint canisters at people on their own front porches.
    https://mobile.twitter.com/tkerssen/...21821653385225[/QUOTE]

    This definitely seems bad and it might very well be what it looks like, or again their is a lack of context. If you notice a lot of these videos are 20-30 seconds long, showing only a brief moment that can be made to look like a lot of things. Those peoples on the porch could very well have been on the street 30 seconds prior and ran to the front porch. Which is totally different from them having been their all along. You cant be causing trouble on the street Then run to your front porch and say ok now I'm off limits. Same goes for the cop car in the first video. If they Drove in out of nowhere and started raming through the crowd, that's one thing. If they were surrounded by an angry mob that had just lit multiple police cars on fire, then its much more understandable that they try and get away.

    Too much stuff on twitter is sensationalized

    Originally posted by Carlin15 View Post
    M1 Abrams tanks arrive in Los Angeles. Who are they planning to use the tanks against?
    Where did you see this, I can't find anything about tanks being deployed in Los Angeles?

    At the end of the day its a lose lose situation. The police can't just stand around and let you burn buildings down and rob stores. The more they intervene the more people get angry and the more they lash out. If they sit back and do nothing then hooligans are going to burn random buildings down potentially killing someone, and rob random stores for nothing other than personal gain.

    I will say one thing, there is a lesson to be learned here for feckless Macedonians. The ones that act like macho men but when you tell them to go protest they are worried about the police. The US has an army like police force and yet protesters won't relent. Macedonians have much more to be angry about, much more to gain, and yet they always sit around and do nothing. No excuses, if a big enough group of people get rowdy, their isn't much the state can do without getting extremely brutal. Why wont Macedonians learn that simple fact that everyone else seems to know, including the minority in their own country.

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  • Carlin
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    M1 Abrams tanks arrive in Los Angeles. Who are they planning to use the tanks against?
    Last edited by Carlin; 05-31-2020, 01:25 PM.

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  • Phoenix
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    ...so much for social distancing.

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  • Spirit
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    Originally posted by Carlin15 View Post
    Minneapolis Police fires on MSNBC and CBS News crews with rubber bullets. No protesters anywhere near them.

    REAL bullets in St Paul.

    #policestate #bananarepublic #trumpistan

    If these were Chinese or Russian police, the world would be losing its shit and calling for emergency UN meetings.

    So true and America would be the first country to push for them.
    This exposes the real America, the dark underbelly of it

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