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  • Soldier of Macedon
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    Originally posted by Vangelovski View Post
    Won't be long before they start raping themselves in the Peoples Democratic Socialist Republic of Chaz.
    Didn't take that long.
    https://news.yahoo.com/seattle-polic...124718101.html

    Police Chief Carmen Best, who joined Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan at a news conference Thursday afternoon, revealed that “ultimately the city had other plans for the building and relented to public pressure.” “You should know, leaving the precinct was not my decision,” Best told her fellow officers. “You fought for days to protect it. I asked you to stand on that line. Day in and day out, to be pelted with projectiles, to be screamed at, threatened and in some cases hurt. Then to have a change of course nearly two weeks in, it seems like an insult to you and our community.” On Wednesday, the Seattle Police Department said it would try to reopen the East Precinct, and Best was able to visit the location on Thursday. “Our calls for service have more than tripled,” she told reporters. “These are responses to emergency calls — rapes, robberies, and all sorts of violent acts that have been occurring in the area that we’re not able to get to.

    At the press conference with Durkan, who claimed the occupants of the “Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone” (CHAZ) were engaging in an act of “patriotism,” Best remained noncommittal on a when police might return to the area, but explained that the evacuation had come after reports that the precinct could be burned down. “We were asked to do an operational plan, in case we needed to leave,” Best said, not saying who exactly gave the order to withdraw. “We got an update that there was the potential for fire — of course if the precinct goes down in fire, the whole block could potentially burn up.”
    Note the contrast between what the Police Chief is saying about not wanting to give up the area and how it is an insult to them and the community, with what the delusional mayor says about the Chazistanis exhibiting acts of "patriotism". One person lives in the real world, the other one is only interested in holding on to political power. Some other great initiatives in Chaz include this:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ck-person.html

    White supporters of the Black Lives Matter movement who are occupying an abandoned Seattle police precinct that has become known as the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone (CHAZ) are being urged to give $10 to an African American.
    And the below picture of an apparent garden on cardboard which, mind you, is reserved only for African-American and Native American peoples - and their plant allies, which I am assuming they're going to eat should anything ever grow there. So it looks like even vegetables have joined their movement and are offering themselves up as a sacrifice.

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  • Soldier of Macedon
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    Originally posted by Carlin15 View Post
    From CNN:


    During a protest at Duncan Plaza on Saturday, protesters in New Orleans took down a statue of John McDonogh, a merchant and slave owner, and rolled it into the Mississippi River.
    Not defending John McDonogh's history as a slave owner, which is despicable. I certainly wouldn't want to see statues or schools named after some oppressive Ottoman official in Macedonia that terrorised the local Christian population. However, his relationship to slavery and African-Americans is a little more nuanced than that mentioned in the CNN article, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McDonogh

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  • Vangelovski
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    Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View Post
    Videos of the incident here:

    New surveillance video has been released of the moment Atlanta police fatally shot 27-year-old Rayshard Brooks in the parking lot of a Wendy's restaurant. At...

    WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT - Atlanta’s police chief resigned on Saturday, the city’s mayor said, as protesters took to the streets hours after the fatal shooti...


    Why did Rayshard Brooks feel the need to struggle and resist so much that he went as far as grabbing one of their weapons and making a run for it? DUI is not a major crime and he could contest it in court if he felt unfairly treated. On the other hand, how did the two police officers lose control of the situation and allow themselves to be partially disarmed during an arrest? And what should they have done with an allegedly intoxicated individual who had taken one of their weapons and tried to escape? In such instances, what is stipulated in police procedure and what is expected by the community? The Atlanta mayor has criticised the police, the police chief has already resigned as a result of the incident, the officer who fired the shots has lost his job and the other officer involved has been placed on administrative duty. Meanwhile, protesters who arrived at the scene afterwards have set fire to the Wendy's restaurant and nearby vehicles.
    What do these people expect when they resist arrest, steal a police weapon, flee and then try to use that weapon against the police? They need a reality check.

    Really funny video from the Chris Rock show on how not to get your ass kicked by the police.I know they are other versions of this on YouTube but this one is...
    Last edited by Vangelovski; 06-14-2020, 12:24 AM.

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  • Soldier of Macedon
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    Originally posted by Carlin15 View Post
    There has been another killing, this time in Atlanta. A police murder of a black man in a city with a significant black population. Like throwing napalm on the tnt.
    Videos of the incident here:

    New surveillance video has been released of the moment Atlanta police fatally shot 27-year-old Rayshard Brooks in the parking lot of a Wendy's restaurant. At...

    WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT - Atlanta’s police chief resigned on Saturday, the city’s mayor said, as protesters took to the streets hours after the fatal shooti...

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/...-stop-71233934

    The Georgia Bureau of Investigation, which is investigating the shooting, said the deadly confrontation started with officers responding to a complaint that a man was sleeping in a car blocking the restaurant's drive-thru lane. The GBI said Brooks failed a field sobriety test and then resisted officers' attempts to arrest him. The GBI released security camera video of the shooting Saturday. The footage shows a man running from two white police officers as he raises a hand, which is holding some type of object, toward an officer a few steps behind him. The officer draws his gun and fires as the man keeps running, then falls to the ground in the parking lot. GBI Director Vic Reynolds said Brooks had grabbed a Taser from one of the officers and appeared to point it at the officer as he fled, prompting the officer to reach for his gun and fire an estimated three shots. The security camera video recorded Brooks “running or fleeing from Atlanta police officers,” Reynolds said. “It appears that he has in his hand a Taser.”
    Why did Rayshard Brooks feel the need to struggle and resist so much that he went as far as grabbing one of their weapons and making a run for it? DUI is not a major crime and he could contest it in court if he felt unfairly treated. On the other hand, how did the two police officers lose control of the situation and allow themselves to be partially disarmed during an arrest? And what should they have done with an allegedly intoxicated individual who had taken one of their weapons and tried to escape? In such instances, what is stipulated in police procedure and what is expected by the community? The Atlanta mayor has criticised the police, the police chief has already resigned as a result of the incident, the officer who fired the shots has lost his job and the other officer involved has been placed on administrative duty. Meanwhile, protesters who arrived at the scene afterwards have set fire to the Wendy's restaurant and nearby vehicles.

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  • Carlin
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    There has been another killing, this time in Atlanta. A police murder of a black man in a city with a significant black population. Like throwing napalm on the tnt.

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  • Karposh
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    The police are inherently horrible, racist thugs and George Floyd's death at the hands of Derek Chauvin proves it. I always thought the Left was against making such broad, sweeping generalisations against any group (let alone the police) but it seems they're more than happy to if they think it serves their purpose.

    This is the height of hypocrisy. The numbers just don't stack up to suggest that most of the police are racist thugs that need disbanding to protect the general community from them. Aren't they there to serve and protect us from harm? But the facts don't matter it seems.

    However, the numbers do stack up, as far as statistics go, to suggest that the black community in America is over-represented in violent crime. A well-known statistical data in America is that blacks comprise 13% of the overall US population but commit more than 50% of the homicides in that country. In addition, 93% of these homicides are committed on other blacks. Not only that but statistics released by the FBI also show that blacks are more likely to kill cops than be killed by cops. So, with all this in mind, is the Left willing to demonise the black community in the same way it has demonised the police as a result of these statistics? I doubt it.

    I've actually heard that, annually, there are hundreds of millions of positive police interactions in the US but, somehow, the Left has chosen to dwell on these very few negative ones. In fact, not only the few negative ones in comparison to the vast majority, but the handful of "worst of the worst cases" as representing the behaviour of the majority of the police force. It's very clear that facts don't matter. Feelings matter and the narrative matters.

    Getting rid of a city's whole police force for the actions of a few bad eggs...Smart move. I'm really interested in seeing how this "Community Led Public Safety System" goes. They have no idea what it will look like or consist of but they still vote to disband the police department wholesale while they iron out the details. Absolute geniuses.

    Yes, a KGB type of safety system comes to mind but also "Lord of The Flies" comes to mind as well. The utopian and naive belief that everyone lives by the rules, peacefully and in harmony and that police aren't really needed will surely come back to bite them in the arse.

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  • Carlin
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    Protesters take down statue in New Orleans and roll it into the Mississippi River

    From CNN:
    african americans, black lives matter movement, demographic groups, discrimination, minority and ethnic groups, misc organizations, population and demographics, racism and racial discrimination, societal issues, society


    During a protest at Duncan Plaza on Saturday, protesters in New Orleans took down a statue of John McDonogh, a merchant and slave owner, and rolled it into the Mississippi River.

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  • Vangelovski
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    Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View Post
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...epartment.html

    And there you have it. Unless this decision is somehow overturned, at some point in the near future Minneapolis will no longer have a police force. Aside from one person belonging to the Green Party, all of the other council members are from the left-wing Minnesota Democratic–Farmer–Labor Party (DFL), which is directly affiliated with the Democratic Party. I wonder if the brave souls in Chaz will be following suit next given that they're half way there already.
    Under communism you don't need a police force. Under communism, you don't have a crime problem, you have a loyalty to the regime problem. So what you really need is a KGB type organisation.
    Last edited by Vangelovski; 06-13-2020, 07:13 PM.

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  • Soldier of Macedon
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    The Minneapolis police department will be replaced by a new community-led public safety system following a vote from the city council on Friday.

    Minneapolis City Council unanimously votes to ABOLISH its police department and replace it with a community-led public safety system - while NYC leaders push plan to cut $1 BILLION from the NYPD budget

    The Minneapolis City Council on Friday unanimously passed a resolution to replace the city's police department with a community-led public safety system. The move comes days after a veto-proof majority of the council voted to disband the police department after the country erupted in protest over the killing of George Floyd, a black man who died when a white police officer knelt on his neck for nearly nine minutes. The Minneapolis vote was cast as New York City Council pushed to cut $1billion from the NYPD’s budget......The gigantic cut to the Big Apple police department's $6billion annual budget could see a reduction in the size of the force from 36,000 to 33,000, while removing functions like school safety and homeless outreach from the police.
    And there you have it. Unless this decision is somehow overturned, at some point in the near future Minneapolis will no longer have a police force. Aside from one person belonging to the Green Party, all of the other council members are from the left-wing Minnesota Democratic–Farmer–Labor Party (DFL), which is directly affiliated with the Democratic Party. I wonder if the brave souls in Chaz will be following suit next given that they're half way there already.

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  • Soldier of Macedon
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    Originally posted by Vangelovski View Post
    Won't be long before they start raping themselves in the Peoples Democratic Socialist Republic of Chaz...….
    Apparently the development of a self-sufficient society is already in progress, with a community garden, armed guards, etc. The recent Tucker Carlson segment on the Chazistanis and the U.S./Chaz border is hilarious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HBGQAHnGNo

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  • Vangelovski
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    Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View Post
    Following on from the earlier post on Seattle, here are some more developments: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...police-protest
    Won't be long before they start raping themselves in the Peoples Democratic Socialist Republic of Chaz

    Reports of crimes inside Occupy Wall Street began to emerge. The occupiers insisted that they were capable of policing themselves (sound familiar?) and refused to allow police to investigate. But then reports of sexual assault began. Not only that, a “women only” tent was constructed to “protect” women in the occupation. That was enough for the NYPD to act. Within days it was over.
    Ten years ago radicals occupied a park in New York City, today's "autonomous zone" in Seattle will likely suffer its same fate.
    Last edited by Vangelovski; 06-12-2020, 07:29 AM.

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  • Vangelovski
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    Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View Post
    Following on from the earlier post on Seattle, here are some more developments: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...police-protest

    Tucker Carlson also has a segment on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KafIdOk8bLs

    Welcome to CHAZ, lol.
    Marxists looking for their revolution.

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  • Tomche Makedonche
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    We should give them condoms and teach them how to fill them up with paint

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  • Soldier of Macedon
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    Following on from the earlier post on Seattle, here are some more developments: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...police-protest
    Hundreds of protesters have taken over several blocks of Seattle and transformed it into the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone, or “Chaz”, helping to amplify nationwide protests while offering a real-world example of what a community can look like without police...….in a tweet, Donald Trump described the protesters as “Domestic Terrorists” who “have taken over Seattle, run by Radical Left Democrats, of course. LAW & ORDER!”. In another tweet addressing the Seattle mayor, Jenny Durkan, and the Washington governor, Jay Inslee, he told them to “take back your city NOW… If you don’t do it, I will. This is not a game,” adding: “These ugly Anarchists must be stopped IMMEDIATELY. MOVE FAST!”

    Inslee responded with his own tweet: “A man who is totally incapable of governing should stay out of Washington state’s business.” Durkan pushed back against Trump’s tweets during a press conference on Thursday, saying the story he is trying to tell about domestic terrorists and a radical agenda was “simply not true”. “The threat to invade Seattle, to divide and incite violence in our city, is not only unwelcome, it would be illegal,” she said. Kim said he saw a silver lining to the president’s tweets, as they could force Seattle leaders to decide whether they’re going to side with Trump or with the community. “In a lot of ways they have been trying to pacify the movement, and undercut the efforts of the organizers, but they’ve been unsuccessfully doing that,” he said...…

    Throughout the space are images and signs claiming this space for the people. “You are now entering free Cap Hill,” reads one sign at the edge of the zone in Capitol Hill, which has long had a leading role in the city’s political and social movements......A variety of demands have been raised during the course of the occupation, but the main three involve defunding the police, using that money to invest in community health and services, and dropping criminal charges against protesters. Shaun Scott, a Seattle writer and activist, said he saw some parallels between what was happening in Seattle and the Occupy movement, calling them “kindred spirits in a lot of ways”. “But the movement for police abolition in Seattle right now has differentiated itself by presenting three very clear and actionable demands that the city can take action on in a pretty short period of time,” he said. Lisa McCallister, 30, a case worker in Seattle who has attended the protests, described Chaz as “amazing”.
    Tucker Carlson also has a segment on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KafIdOk8bLs

    Welcome to CHAZ, lol.

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  • Karposh
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    Originally posted by Carlin15 View Post
    Christopher Columbus statues beheaded, toppled, burned, thrown in lake:
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/globaln...destroyed/amp/
    What's the problem? These are not the actions of violent rioting mobs and thugs who are hell bent on destruction of property and general anarchy but the justified actions of "peaceful protesters". I say we get used to it people. The revolution has begun. We don't like the past, so we'll erase any evidence of it. Statues, TV shows and old classic movies are just the beginning. As for law and order, that's a racist institutional remnant of the past as well and must be destroyed too. Now take the knee and obey us (or else!). The people have spoken.

    Welcome to the Bolshevik Left world view of reality.

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