Originally posted by Prolet
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Yes, thats true. Sadly the children of the ancient Persians, today`s Iranians forgot Rumi`s teachings and gone in fanatic way too

Ah yes, ofc i know Ataturk`s parents are from Macedonia, Debar. He born in Salonika but he has gone to Bitola to enter military school.
I posted the pictures of that school here;
http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=46350
And I must say, When i look at his pictures, he definitely looks like half Macedonian and half Turk. Maybe more of a Macedonian, hehe

Ataturk`s wax sculptor(exact reproduction of his appearance) at Madame Tussauds museum in London;


His identity is not a problem for us though, since ethnicity has never been a problem for Turkish people, its mostly our mindset and general point of view makes us Turks and Ataturk served us most, so we are proud of him.
Already, Ataturk is not alone. Millions of people from Balkans migrated to Turkey at those times and most of them was living at north side of today`s Greece, western Thrace and Macedonia. My parents are from Petrich too, province of Salonika/Serres.
About EU;
Originally posted by mail2onur
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Armenian problem becoming extremely complicated day by day as the parliaments approves Armenian claims. First of all, there is no genocide at 1915 as Armenians claims and parliaments is not the place to discuss this. How come stupid Yankees at USA knows what happened in Turkey at 1915? Hell, i am sure stupids don't even know where Armenia is in the world.
While ottoman empire was at war in WW-1, armies at Europe, middle-east and all around, Armenian citizens of the empire who lives at eastern Turkey wear Russian and French soldier uniforms, announced that they joined war vs Turkey and started rebellion against us. They also invaded few cities with the help of Russians by mass murdering local Turkish people. They also tried to assassinate Ottoman Sultan. No one could stop them at that time because all Turkish armies was at the war-fields so far away.
Then Ottoman government decided to expel/deport all the Armenians to the other territories of the Empire because they stabbed us from behind and government had no other choice, otherwise they were going to kill all local civilians and occupy eastern Anatolia with the help of Russians. So, about 800.000 Armenians deported with the exception of the ones who lives in Istanbul and İzmir, western side. Yes, some of them died because of exhaustion, spreading diseases and hunger but Ottoman empire even hanged around 80 officers who found guilty of their inability to protect Armenians during their deportations.
No one asks why Ottoman government deported them after living together for 800 years. Armenians always had big privileges. There was Armenian governors, foreign ministers throughout history and they were even in charge of central bank of the Empire. These rich Armenians already wasn't deported because they didn't involved any crimes unlike the ones at eastern side and these Armenians in Istanbul and Izmir still living in Turkey today. Most of them wants these false accusations to stop as well but Western countries are abusing this to weaken Turkey`s hand and make this as an issue for future bargains to get some profits. I am sure they don't even care what happened 100 years ago.
While this happens at Western world, poor and hungry people at Armenia got false hopes and dreams of taking billions of dollars from Turkey as a compensation like Jews took from Germans at WW-2 but they wont gain anything in the end. I am sure of it because we got every valid documents in our hands to prove that it wasn't an ethnic cleansing. Armenians knows this, thats why they refuse Turkey`s calls to settle this problem on international courts, instead, they work hard to make their claims accepted as many as parliaments possible, even at Paraguay or some countries like that.
They just wanted to jump on last wagon of the train by starting terror with the help of Russia and France at WW-1 to create bigger Armenia but they failed to do so and they cant get over with it for 100 years.
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