Nikola Gruevski

[George S.]

Dragan i have to agree with everything you said about gruevski.My relatives in rom say the same thing.

[DraganOfStip]

The other day I saw some comments on a page where DPMNE youths were gathered at a rally.
An old lady commented how proud she is that many young people are joining the "patriotic" party and have chosen the right path,according to her.
Little does she now that at least 90% of those young people have nothing to do with the party's ideology,programme or patriotism,but they simply want the security of a well-paid state job,and nothing more.

[George S.]

Gruevski announces more investments on Independence Day

Gruevski announces more investments on Independence Day
Tuesday, 08 September 2015

http://macedoniaonline.eu/

The economy, investments and new jobs are the second major challenge of the government along with EU and NATO membership, PM Nikola Gruevski said Tuesday in his address on the occasion of Independence Day.

Gruevski announced that the talks with four major companies are finishing up and many others are to start to work.

The talks led by government’s economic team are held constantly and are in progress aimed at finalizing agreements with several well-known companies.

As of tomorrow, new plant of the Italian Diatek company begins its operations in Skopje zone that will hire 250 people. Very soon the German company Makkard will start to operate in Veles and will employ 600 persons, while American brand Key Safety Systems will move in October in newly built plant in Kicevo and will create 1000 jobs.

The agreements for a new factory of a global American company that I have recently announced is finalized, which is based in America and plans to open facility in Strumica and to open 1.500 new jobs. Moreover I have recently announced the entrance of US's Lear Corporation with about 3.000 people in Tetovo, he said.

Gruevski underlined that Minister Bill Pavleski is working with a multinational company in the food industry that is willing to restart several facilities in the food industry and to employ several hundred people, while Minister Visar Fida is finishing the talks with Swiss software company that will start with 80 IT engineers and another Swiss company to start construction of their factory for solar panels in Skopje.

Director of the Technological Industrial Development Zones Viktor Mizo is finishing the talks with an American company from the automotive industry that should start activities from the beginning of 2016 in the Skopje area with plans to hire more than 500 people, and no later than next month Austrian Teksport should start up in Vinica in their new factory where it will employ over 200 people, he said.

He said that it is not accidentally that IMF in its latest report predicts 30.000 new jobs from foreign direct investment in the country.

Referring to the IMF report, Gruevski stressed that Macedonia is among the five least indebted countries in Europe. The report confirmed our previous assertions. Responsible behaviour in this sphere should continue, Gruevski underlined.

[George S.]

Macedonia creates 6,747 Jobs in 2nd Quarter of 2015

Macedonia creates 6,747 Jobs in 2nd Quarter of 2015
Friday, 04 September 2015

http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/28024/1/

The State Statistical Office informed that in the second quarter of the year, there were a total of 6,747 job openings and 452,291 employed persons in Macedonia.

Most of the job openings, little over 2,000, belonged in manufacturing and in retail industry (1,255).

By industry, electric energy and gas production and real *estate management offered the least job openings.

By company size, small companies with between 3 and 9 employees, had the most openings, while by geographic region, the highest rate of job openings relative to the workforce was registered in the south*western part of the country.

[DraganOfStip]

Another piece of comunist-style school propaganda.

Back in my days (and we were fresh separated from Yugoslavia) we still had the school readingtext "the picture of Tito",where students in the classroom argue which of them is Tito watching at from the picture,before their schoolteacher stoppes them saying "Tito is watching us all".

Now,it gets even more straight forward than that.
In a certain grade school textbook, pupils are tought that "loyal citizens respect those in power, they are good and responsible workers that are always ready to follow the rules of the society,even at the cost of some of their freedoms".
That is as Stalinist as it gets I believe.

[Vangelovski]

Its not for me, but you must love it Dragan...after all, its socialism.

[DedoAleko]

By it's ideology,DPMNE is a right-wing,conservative,nationalistic etc political party.
However,it's rule is very similar to the totalitarian regimes typical of the communist age.How so,you ask?
Let's point out the 5 obvious similarities:

1.Red party membership card employments

Both then and now,you need a party membership card (by coincidence,red) to obtain a state job,with all it's benefits and privilegies.

2.Media control

The party uses the media as their propaganda brainwashing tool.
Just see random news center on Sitel (or any other pro-government media) and you're lobotomised into thinking that you live in Sweden or some place where everything is perfect and your biggest concern for the next day is which pair of shoes you should wear on your way to the supermarket.
The largest oppositional media house A1 was closed years ago and it's owner incarcerated under suspicious circumstances.
And just to mention the case of the journalist Kezarovski who was known as a big government critic ,or the (still) mysterious car accident that killed Nikola Mladenov,the owner of anti-government media Focus a while back.Too many coincidences,don't you think?

3.Political prisoners

To add to the previous point,you also have the jailing of Ljube Boskovski,the trial of Vlado Buckovski and last but not least,the indictment of Zoran Zaev (forgive me for missing out a few).
Many political opponents have ended in jail since DPMNE took power in 2006.

4.Show trials

DPMNE has great links in the Macedonian justice system,where they (in)directly are involved in electing public prosecutors,district attourneys,judges etc etc,all of which allow them to feel safe from political opponents and to ensure enforcing their will in trials.
Something that communists used during their reign to get rid of their enemies.
So far every law suit made by a government official ended in his favor,and those by the opponents are rejected or kept in a locker as "lost".


5.Secret police

As we're all familiar,the Direction for Security and Counterintelligence (DBK) has tapped thousands of Macedonian citizens,journalists,foreign ambassadors and even DPMNE officials in the attempt to control what's going on in the country.
This was characteristic for the KGB,Stazi,Securitate and other communist block secret police agencies in the communist era.


They condemn communism but at the same time they use their methods to keep them in power.
Unfortunately for the Macedonian people,we don't have Solidarnost,no Leh Valensa to challenge this power and set us free.
The other option might as well be even worse,so I believe the REAL political crisis in Macedonia is still to come...

What a load of crap. Dragan, stop being pathetic party troll and get some dignity, for your sake!

1.To get a state job in Macedonia, even as a janitor, you must be member or part of the ruling parties in Macedonia. You know that, I know that, everybody knows that.
Can I get a job, in Strumica municipality for example, in sectors under local jurisdiction, if I am not sds member? I don't think so Dragan. Same goes for the places where dpmne is in power. That is a SAD FACT,you know that,I know that,everybody knows that!

2.There is no such thing as independent media in Macedonia.
If sds comes in power, one of the first things they will do is take control over the media.

3. ljube boskovski,zoran zaev,vlado buckovski-political prisoners?! Are you fucking kidding me?!!

4.If anyone ever wants to start making Macedonia (aka fyrom) a state, it must do general cleaning of the justice system servants. It is so polluted and corrupted that, even though I guess there are some honest people there too, ALL must be banished from there, their work revised and send to do hard time prison when manipulations are proven.

5.Yes, there is a secret police in Macedonia, just like in every country, only in Macedonia it is not working for the country's security, but destabilization.


p.s. Dragan, what is communism?

p.p.s. George, will you shut the fuck up already!

[DraganOfStip]

What a load of crap. Dragan, stop being pathetic party troll and get some dignity, for your sake!

1.To get a state job in Macedonia, even as a janitor, you must be member or part of the ruling parties in Macedonia. You know that, I know that, everybody knows that.
Can I get a job, in Strumica municipality for example, in sectors under local jurisdiction, if I am not sds member? I don't think so Dragan. Same goes for the places where dpmne is in power. That is a SAD FACT,you know that,I know that,everybody knows that!

2.There is no such thing as independent media in Macedonia.
If sds comes in power, one of the first things they will do is take control over the media.

3. ljube boskovski,zoran zaev,vlado buckovski-political prisoners?! Are you fucking kidding me?!!

4.If anyone ever wants to start making Macedonia (aka fyrom) a state, it must do general cleaning of the justice system servants. It is so polluted and corrupted that, even though I guess there are some honest people there too, ALL must be banished from there, their work revised and send to do hard time prison when manipulations are proven.

5.Yes, there is a secret police in Macedonia, just like in every country, only in Macedonia it is not working for the country's security, but destabilization.


p.s. Dragan, what is communism?

p.p.s. George, will you shut the fuck up already!

I'm sorry that my post doesn't fit your pro-Grujo opinion Dedo,but that's reality in Macedonia.
And no,it's not crap.it's the truth,no matter how much it hurts.
Your hate towards SDSM that you have repeatedly expressed throughout this forum is justified,every true Macedonian knows what those bastards did with this country when they were in power.
My father lost his job in SDSM's criminal transition and as a direct result I grew up in a very tough environment where my mom's textile worker salary had to feed 4 mouths,pay bills and keep us warm and clothed.I was a straight A student throughout grade school and high school but couldn't crown that knowledge with a faculty degree because I couldn't afford college.
So yes,I'm no fan of SDSM,they've caused so much evil and anyone sympathizing them must be a looney.
And yes,they also did all the things you wrote above.
I just fail to understand how you can't see that Grujo & co are the same lying,stealing,traitorous bastards as they are?

This is just a thread where I compare the means of DPMNE that keep them in power with those of the ex-communist countries.
Do you disagree with the similarities and if so,why?

[DedoAleko]

@DraganOfShtip

Let me make it clear to you. I am NOT pro dpmne (I deliberately avoid the sacred prefix they have VMRO!). It just happens I dislike sds MORE than I dislike dpmne.

Having in mind the CATASTROPHIC situation R. Macedonia aka fyrom is in, on ALL COUNTS, I am convinced that to show sympathy towards, or be member of some political party, you would either have to be in some way on their payroll list OR you must be A COMPLETE UTTER TOOL!

[DraganOfStip]

@DraganOfShtip

Let me make it clear to you. I am NOT pro dpmne (I deliberately avoid the sacred prefix they have VMRO!). It just happens I dislike sds MORE than I dislike dpmne.

Having in mind the CATASTROPHIC situation R. Macedonia aka fyrom is in, on ALL COUNTS, I am convinced that to show sympathy towards, or be member of some political party, you would either have to be in some way on their payroll list OR you must be A COMPLETE UTTER TOOL!

Amen to that,brother.
Sorry if I misinterpreted your posts elsewhere,but all of them were anti-SDSM and I didn't notice any anti-DPMNE (and yes,they don't deserve to bear the sacred prefix of the VMRO) so it was a logical conclusion for me to make.

P.S.: And please,as a fellow Macedonian,stop using "fyrom" in any conception.Not even in a joke.

[George S.]

Guys remember the slogan Don't YOU FYROM ME??

[Risto the Great]

P.S.: And please,as a fellow Macedonian,stop using "fyrom" in any conception.Not even in a joke.

I actually think FYROM is a great way to describe the country that is cheating its citizens at the moment. How can it be called Macedonia within the context of its political framework since the 1990's. Macedonians can't allow Macedonia to suffer so much at the hands of so few people. No, this is not Macedonia!

Macedonia for the Macedonians!
FYROM for the criminals running the country.

[DedoAleko]

Amen to that,brother.
Sorry if I misinterpreted your posts elsewhere,but all of them were anti-SDSM and I didn't notice any anti-DPMNE (and yes,they don't deserve to bear the sacred prefix of the VMRO) so it was a logical conclusion for me to make.

P.S.: And please,as a fellow Macedonian,stop using "fyrom" in any conception.Not even in a joke.

You know, I have talked many times with people from Veles for example and most of them are pro sds,but you know why?Because dpmne "privatized" (sold,stole,destroyed,ruined,...)more factories than dpmne did.THAT is why they are pro sds. In Strumica for example is the opposite! People are pro dpmne because sds ruined their lives by destroying their factories.Do you get the picture?This is done systematically!We are all being robbed, by both parties!! Show me, I beg you all to show me some actions dpmne is taking to prove me wrong,please!
I know all kinds of Macedonians visit MT forum, some of you invested so much in the parties.People, just go visit the public companies in RoM run by the parties.While the intellectuals sit behind some desk and rot,people that run the places are clueless, greedy,incompetent,total idiots,CHARLATANS!!!The party just puts them there to suck out as much as possible,NOTHING ELSE!What is left are just poor people that will do just about anything for some leftovers.THERE IS NO VMRO IN dpmne PEOPLE!!THEY ALL BETRAYED THE MACEDONIAN CAUSE!!! And people,we don't need to settle accounts with the foreigners,but between ourselves first!We can not blame the foreigners for our cowardliness,servility and stupidity!!
I apologize I am paranoid, but it brakes my heart when I see what is going on with my mother Macedonia.

[makedonche]

You know, I have talked many times with people from Veles for example and most of them are pro sds,but you know why?Because dpmne "privatized" (sold,stole,destroyed,ruined,...)more factories than dpmne did.THAT is why they are pro sds. In Strumica for example is the opposite! People are pro dpmne because sds ruined their lives by destroying their factories.Do you get the picture?This is done systematically!We are all being robbed, by both parties!! Show me, I beg you all to show me some actions dpmne is taking to prove me wrong,please!
I know all kinds of Macedonians visit MT forum, some of you invested so much in the parties.People, just go visit the public companies in RoM run by the parties.While the intellectuals sit behind some desk and rot,people that run the places are clueless, greedy,incompetent,total idiots,CHARLATANS!!!The party just puts them there to suck out as much as possible,NOTHING ELSE!What is left are just poor people that will do just about anything for some leftovers.THERE IS NO VMRO IN dpmne PEOPLE!!THEY ALL BETRAYED THE MACEDONIAN CAUSE!!! And people,we don't need to settle accounts with the foreigners,but between ourselves first!We can not blame the foreigners for our cowardliness,servility and stupidity!!
I apologize I am paranoid, but it brakes my heart when I see what is going on with my mother Macedonia.

Dedo
You are only saying what most of know is the case, no need to aplogize, it's those running the country that need to apologize!

[DedoAleko]

Говор на Никола Груевски 23.10.2015

Говор на Никола Груевски 23.10.2015