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The synod hass proven what a bunch of useless people they are they are too scared to even approve nikodym sarkneas as vladika & are too scared of the greek church.It will never happen as they are influenced by their orthodox buddies.
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"Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
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What was the aim of discussing the ordination of Tsarknjas with the head bishop of the Montenegrin Orthodox Church?Originally posted by Niko777 View PostIn the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.Comment
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so when is timotej coming & is he going to go the way of bishop peter or is he doing things differently?.This could be a question for Igor."Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
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He has already arrived he did an interview on 3ZZZ few days ago.Стравот на Атина од овој Македонец одел до таму што го нарекле Страшниот Чакаларов гркоубиец и крвожеден комитаџија.
Ако знам дека тука тече една капка грчка крв, јас сега би ја отсекол целата рака и би ја фрлил в море. Васил ЧакаларовComment
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what's his view on the way he is going to carry on with the community churches after all they constitute macedonian beleivers.Is he doing anything different to petar or is he doing it differently???I think he did say in one of his interviews that he didn't agree with the way petar was doing it.He didn't agree with the way petar was doing it."Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
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recently there has been some new announcemnts does someone know what it was?"Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
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MOCA Facebook Page
Hello everyone,
Sorry I haven't had much time to post here recently. It seems other forum members have been having the same problem.
If you would like to keep up to date with developments in the "Church dispute", it may help to follow the Facebook page of the Macedonian Orthodox Community of Australia:
We have a Macedonian language FB page and a new website coming soon.All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. Arthur Schopenhauer
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i heard that the vladika petar was trying to smuggle large amounts of cash in a suitcase to macedonia. when authorities questioned him why he was carrying a large cash for personal reasons.Where did the cash come from???Has anyone heard about this??"Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
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I've heard the rumour, but am not aware of any evidence of it.Originally posted by George S. View PostAll truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. Arthur Schopenhauer
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A new thread that should be of interest to followers of this sticky:
Last edited by aleksandrov; 06-02-2013, 11:54 PM.All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. Arthur Schopenhauer
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New icons for st. Nikola church in sydney (cabramatta)
Please bring this to the attention of any potential donors of icons for the new ikonostas at our St. Nikola church in Cabramatta.
We already have donors for The Last Supper and St. Nikola icons.
I will put up a list of all the icons that have been ordered soon.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. Arthur Schopenhauer
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Default After 16 years of hearing church "St. Petka" returned to MPC
After 16 years of hearing church "St. Petka" returned to MPC
Get litigation waged before the Australian courts, informed yesterday in Bitola, Metropolitan Peter
Bitola - Get trial property of St. Petka in Australia, said yesterday in Bitola Metropolitan Peter, stressing that the Macedonian Orthodox Church was litigation that 16 years ago led Australian courts, the property of the church "Sv. Five "in Australia. According to Bishop Peter dispute arose when the church St. Petka was preregistrana the church incorporated association or company without the knowledge and without the approval of the church authorities, after which the MPC sued Inkorporiranata Macedonian Association provoslavna community - church St. Petka. At today Press conference metropolitan Prespa Pelagoniski administrator and Australian-New Zealand d. Peter noted that the Supreme Court of New South Wales decided that the trial is completed on the property of the church "St. Petka" originally registered as property of MPC and later without knowledge and without the approval of the church authorities had been re-registered by the incorporated company. " Golgota trial lasted for 16 years and in that time we have persistently argued that the property has always been bought and developed over the objectives of the MPC, not a company. The three judgments of three different judges have been confirmed with the completed litigation on church property, which is now run by the MOC. This decision actually completed all litigation conducted in the courts in Australia, "said Bishop Peter. litigation This is interpreted as a curiosity in Australian courts which, according to Bishop, caused great spiritual damage to the believers and the church. "long-standing litigation that waged against MOC inkorporiranata Association Macedonian Orthodox community - church "St. Petka" in Australia, unfortunately entered the annals of Australian judiciary and studied jurisprudence in Kvinsland as knowledge and experience for future lawyers win right, "said Metropolitan Prespa Pelagoniski administrator and Australia and New Zealand. Afterwards will be chosen new legitimate authorities under the rules of the Orthodox Church, which church life in the church "St. Petka" Australia continues to maintain municipal Assembly Church, Metropolitan Peter announced. "With these decisions, I as bishop is no longer any prohibition and we smoothly manage under church law. Thus the municipal Assembly Church will participate only believers who qualify to be believers, who are on the list of parish priest and obey church laws. Unfortunately so far the list of members was closed, but now membership is open and new assembly will elect a new Administration and a new church board that will manage the church, "said Peter. (AB)
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Default After 16 years of hearing church "St. Petka" returned to MPC
After 16 years of hearing church "St. Petka" returned to MPC
Get litigation waged before the Australian courts, informed yesterday in Bitola, Metropolitan Peter
Bitola - Get trial property of St. Petka in Australia, said yesterday in Bitola Metropolitan Peter, stressing that the Macedonian Orthodox Church was litigation that 16 years ago led Australian courts, the property of the church "Sv. Five "in Australia. According to Bishop Peter dispute arose when the church St. Petka was preregistrana the church incorporated association or company without the knowledge and without the approval of the church authorities, after which the MPC sued Inkorporiranata Macedonian Association provoslavna community - church St. Petka. At today Press conference metropolitan Prespa Pelagoniski administrator and Australian-New Zealand d. Peter noted that the Supreme Court of New South Wales decided that the trial is completed on the property of the church "St. Petka" originally registered as property of MPC and later without knowledge and without the approval of the church authorities had been re-registered by the incorporated company. " Golgota trial lasted for 16 years and in that time we have persistently argued that the property has always been bought and developed over the objectives of the MPC, not a company. The three judgments of three different judges have been confirmed with the completed litigation on church property, which is now run by the MOC. This decision actually completed all litigation conducted in the courts in Australia, "said Bishop Peter. litigation This is interpreted as a curiosity in Australian courts which, according to Bishop, caused great spiritual damage to the believers and the church. "long-standing litigation that waged against MOC inkorporiranata Association Macedonian Orthodox community - church "St. Petka" in Australia, unfortunately entered the annals of Australian judiciary and studied jurisprudence in Kvinsland as knowledge and experience for future lawyers win right, "said Metropolitan Prespa Pelagoniski administrator and Australia and New Zealand. Afterwards will be chosen new legitimate authorities under the rules of the Orthodox Church, which church life in the church "St. Petka" Australia continues to maintain municipal Assembly Church, Metropolitan Peter announced. "With these decisions, I as bishop is no longer any prohibition and we smoothly manage under church law. Thus the municipal Assembly Church will participate only believers who qualify to be believers, who are on the list of parish priest and obey church laws. Unfortunately so far the list of members was closed, but now membership is open and new assembly will elect a new Administration and a new church board that will manage the church, "said Peter. (AB)
__________________"Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
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can someone bring u to current status on the chrch dispute.Who is suing who ,who won?In a nutshell what been happening.??"Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
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Petar's new attack on the church in Australia. In a nutshell, and others can correct me if I'm wrong, Petar's long-standing legal action against St. Petka is over, but now he's preparing a new one in order to remove all of its members, except six which are siding with him, so they can formally transfer the property into his name.
http://www.kanal5.com.mk/vesti_detail.asp?ID=34792
http://www.telma.com.mk/index.php?ta...b=6&item=36226
http://www.24vesti.mk/prodolzhuvaat-...crkovniot-imot
http://www.plusinfo.mk/vest/130685/A...-vo-Avstralija
http://www.mia.mk/mk/Inside/RenderSi.../380/115916021
http://www.utrinski.mk/default.asp?I...C742707B7764E6
If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John AdamsComment
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