Macedonia & Greece: Name Issue

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  • Voltron
    Banned
    • Jan 2011
    • 1362

    Your wrong phile, its even worse now due to Greece being in a financial crisis. Turkey was in a crisis in 2001, guess what ? Nothing happened during that period of time. Thats the rule of thumb. You cannot put pressure on a country that is already under immense pressure.

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    • The LION will ROAR
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 3231

      Originally posted by Voltron View Post
      Your wrong phile, its even worse now due to Greece being in a financial crisis. Turkey was in a crisis in 2001, guess what ? Nothing happened during that period of time. Thats the rule of thumb. You cannot put pressure on a country that is already under immense pressure.
      You are wrong Voltron, NO MONEY means no more bribing Historians and Politicians to spread Propaganda..

      Greece will fall apart very soon..
      What will Greece do When EU stop funding your Big FAT Lazy Broke Greek ASS..?



      This will happen..?
      The Macedonians originates it, the Bulgarians imitate it and the Greeks exploit it!

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      • Makedonetz
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2010
        • 1080

        Maybe greece will revert to their paganism and prey to the holy god Zeus for help once agian seeing trying to market off the Macedonian name was the final nail in their plans.
        Makedoncite se borat
        za svoite pravdini!

        "The one who works for joining of Macedonia to Bulgaria,Greece or Serbia can consider himself as a good Bulgarian, Greek or Serb, but not a good Macedonian"
        - Goce Delchev

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        • julie
          Senior Member
          • May 2009
          • 3869

          Originally posted by The LION will ROAR View Post
          You are wrong Voltron, NO MONEY means no more bribing Historians and Politicians to spread Propaganda..

          Greece will fall apart very soon..
          What will Greece do When EU stop funding your Big FAT Lazy Broke Greek ASS..?



          This will happen..?

          LMAO, very apt.
          "The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task."__________________Gotse Delchev

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          • Voltron
            Banned
            • Jan 2011
            • 1362

            Does anybody know what is the official position of Republic of Macedonia regarding the name dispute ? I still dont know what they are offering.

            Milososki-Droutsas meeting in Budva
            Skopje, 28 January 2011 (MIA) - Foreign Minister Antonio Milososki will meet Friday in Budva with Greek FM Dimitris Droutsas.

            The meeting, which is initiated by the Macedonian party, will be held at sidelines informal meeting of foreign ministers of the South East European Co-operation Process (SEECP) member states.

            Pertaining to the coming meeting with Greek counterpart Dimitris Droutsas in Montenegro, FM Milososki says is would be good if the meeting tackled other issues besides the name row, such as bilateral economic cooperation, elimination of double taxation, as well as opening of new border crossings.

            Milososki-Droutsas talks will take place ahead of a meeting of UN mediator Matthew Nimetz with countries' negotiators - Zoran Jolevski and Adamantios Vassilakis, scheduled for February 9 in New York.

            Macedonia expects confirmation of the countries' commitment to the UN-led process and continuation of dialogue, as well as elimination of the feeling over the process marginalization, says Foreign Minister Antonio Milososki in an interview with Radio Free Europe.

            He adds that Macedonian negotiator, ambassador Zoran Jolevski has been summoned to Skopje for instructions over the country's stance for commitment to resumption of the dialogue and building trust with Greece, resulting in a solution to the bilateral dispute. ik/fd/9:26

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            • julie
              Senior Member
              • May 2009
              • 3869

              Voltron, the Republic of Macedonia . Macedonia. No suffixes , prefixes.
              "The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task."__________________Gotse Delchev

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              • Voltron
                Banned
                • Jan 2011
                • 1362

                Understood Julie, I was just wondering what was the official line of ROM. Its always about building trust and economic ties, but nothing regarding where they stand about their name.

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                • Louis Riel
                  Member
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 190

                  The Macedonian government wants a name that will be used bilaterally,the Greek government wants one that will be used by all nations.

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                  • Soldier of Macedon
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 13670

                    Originally posted by Voltron View Post
                    The meeting, which is initiated by the Macedonian party, will be held at sidelines informal meeting of foreign ministers of the South East European Co-operation Process (SEECP) member states.
                    A waste of time like all such meetings before it. Their views are opposed to each other, there is no point of discussion, and the only one's responsible for allowing this fiasco to continue are the members of the Macedonian government. We have never needed Greece's approval to exist, it was the cowardice of our politicians that put us in this position in the first place.
                    In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                    • Pelister
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 2742

                      Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View Post
                      A waste of time like all such meetings before it. Their views are opposed to each other, there is no point of discussion, and the only one's responsible for allowing this fiasco to continue are the members of the Macedonian government. We have never needed Greece's approval to exist, it was the cowardice of our politicians that put us in this position in the first place.
                      I really agree with you SoM.

                      Most Macedonians do not believe that the New Greeks and invading 'Greeks' have a valid claim to Macedonian territory, certainly not a historical one, if this was indeed a historical issue. But the fact is that it is very much a historical issue, if a false claim is the central assumption behind the Greek position and forms the basis of its aggression.

                      You are right to suggest that the Macedonian politicians have folded up like pancakes.

                      The only thing keeping this alive is the reckless and ruthless aggression of these Albanians and Turks 'in disguise' (New Greeks), and the perception among Macedonian leaders that we are helpless, weak and impotent, Oh, and Macedonian leaders like Gruevski who has no problem meddling with our identity, as though it were a fkn bargaining chip.

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                      • Eddie_rebel
                        Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 140



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                        Ladies and Gentlemen,

                        We the Macedonians demand your country to stop using the preliminary reference Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia. Our country's name is Republic of Macedonia. Please respect that, just as well as we respect the name of your country Australia.

                        We the Macedonians believe that this decision is not only unjust for the Macedonian people but defies universal rights and principles.

                        The reference under which the Republic of Macedonia was admitted to the UN is only for use within the UN, as per resolution 817. The preliminary reference which was included in the UN constitutes a reference, not a name!

                        We the Macedonians ask that fundamental human rights and principles also apply to us. We ask that you please end the injustice and discrimination against us and recognize our country by the name Republic of Macedonia .

                        Over 130 countries worldwide, including the USA , Canada , Brazil , India , China , Japan , Russia, Turkey … have already acknowledged our country under the name Republic of Macedonia!

                        Yours sincerely,

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                        • fyrOM
                          Banned
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 2180

                          Macedoina v Greece at the Hague



                          Monday, 14 February 2011

                          From March 21 until March 30 Hague Tribunal will hold a public debate in Macedonia’s lawsuit against Greece, triggered by the violation of temporary agreement at NATO summit in Bucharest.

                          The discussion will be open to the public and conducted in two phases. Macedonia will present its case in the first phase on March 21 and March 22, while Greece will presents its standpoints on March 24 and 25.

                          On March 28 Macedonia will have a right to a rebuttal, while the public debate will be concluded on March 30 with a closing statement made by Greece. According to past practices the court will rule on the case within 6 months or by the end of the year. The ruling will be binding and enacted by the UN Security Council.

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                          • Voltron
                            Banned
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 1362

                            Nothing will come out of the Court. Its going to be one of those, ok you shouldnt of blocked Macedonia. Macedonia you shouldnt of busted Greece's balls. Keep on the interim agreement until you guys find a solution. Thats my prediction.

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                            • Ottoman
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 203

                              Originally posted by Voltron View Post
                              Nothing will come out of the Court. Its going to be one of those, ok you shouldnt of blocked Macedonia. Macedonia you shouldnt of busted Greece's balls. Keep on the interim agreement until you guys find a solution. Thats my prediction.
                              You might be right.

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                              • Soldier of Macedon
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 13670

                                How has Macedonia "busted Greece's balls"? By holding on to our identity?
                                In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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