Macedonia & Greece: Name Issue

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  • Makedonetz
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 1080

    Does Gruevski & Co have the bullocks to do this?
    Makedoncite se borat
    za svoite pravdini!

    "The one who works for joining of Macedonia to Bulgaria,Greece or Serbia can consider himself as a good Bulgarian, Greek or Serb, but not a good Macedonian"
    - Goce Delchev

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    • George S.
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 10116

      They are determined to capitulate ie to compromise on the name,Thats what the traitors propose to do & they are doing it regardless.
      "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
      GOTSE DELCEV

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      • fyrOM
        Banned
        • Feb 2010
        • 2180

        We will see if there is a capitulation or not on the name issue but things will intensify this year.
        Is this the silencing of one avenue of information as things heat up…also with no workers there no one can see some news being covered up.


        William Hejg gave approval for closure of the Macedonian and other sections of the World Service BBC BBC



        London, January 26, 2011 (Reuters) - The head of British diplomacy William Hejg said today that he gave consent to the closure of programs in Macedonian, Albanian and Serbian, and English for the Caribbean and Portuguese to Africa as part of measures to Saving the World Service of the BBC's Alex Last, MIA reports from London.

        Participating in the debate in the House of the British Parliament, the Minister Hejg said such a measure had to be made because the BBC BBC can not be excluded from the general austerity measures in budget expenditures and explained that the three Balkan edits the other two had slushanost total of 3.5 million people. Compared with all these sections, the program of Russian language is noticed an increase in traffic on the Internet site in Russian service for 120 per cent, while in the programs of the Chinese language has a big jump between Chinese living outside China.

        In sharp debate, lawmakers from the Labor opposition that included several former ministers and members of the governments of Tony Blair and Gordon Brown, he noticed the foreign office and the minister Hejg programs are closed on three versions of the languages of the Balkans, although they total cost of World Service BBC I do not participate or with 0.5 per cent. Former Europe minister Denis Meksejn Hejg him against her on that closes the sections of the Macedonian, Albanian and Serbian, even before Macedonia and Serbia to join the EU, at a time when Albania has increased internal instability.

        Hejg but believes that the current coalition government doing less "sin" of the Labour government, which in 2006 agreed to close ten European programs. He acknowledged that had to be scrapped 650 jobs in the World Service BBC BBC to save 46 million pounds per year, offering an alternative company to develop the service there since 1932, through the transfer of language programs Internet.

        Opposition and ruling coalition lawmakers insisted it was wrong that the main thrust of the plan for saving the Foreign Office is transferred to the World Service BBC that because of this I paid the highest price despite announcements by the Government and the Minister that the service Hejg foreign languages must not be destroyed.

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        • fyrOM
          Banned
          • Feb 2010
          • 2180

          FM Milososki: Dialogue for trust building



          Prague, 26 January 2011 (MIA) - In light of the February meeting of mediator Matthew Nimetz with Macedonian and Greek negotiators in New York, Macedonia expects confirmation of the countries' commitment to the UN-led process and continuation of dialogue, as well as elimination of the feeling over the process marginalization, says Foreign Minister Antonio Milososki in an interview with Radio Free Europe.

          He adds that Macedonian negotiator, ambassador Zoran Jolevski has been summoned to Skopje for instructions over the country's stance for commitment to resumption of the dialogue and building trust with Greece, resulting in a solution to the bilateral dispute.

          Pertaining to the coming meeting with Greek counterpart Dimitris Droutsas in Montenegro, FM Milososki says is would be good if the meeting tackled other issues besides the name row, such as bilateral economic cooperation, elimination of double taxation, as well as opening of new border crossings.

          With regards to events in Albania, FM Milososki assesses they are not good both for the country and the region, but does not expect any implications on Macedonia or other neighbors.

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          • Makedonetz
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2010
            • 1080

            Macedonia's FM went to Prauge aswell to strengthen talks between our country's We dont need the EU or the UN we need ourselves and look out for our own not someone elses approval.

            Papandreaous, Droutsas, and everyone else can go fly a kite
            Makedoncite se borat
            za svoite pravdini!

            "The one who works for joining of Macedonia to Bulgaria,Greece or Serbia can consider himself as a good Bulgarian, Greek or Serb, but not a good Macedonian"
            - Goce Delchev

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            • Makedonska_Kafana
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2010
              • 2642

              - Greek PM not optimistic over swift name settlement

              TO FN BAD FOR HIM
              http://www.makedonskakafana.com

              Macedonia for the Macedonians

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              • George S.
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 10116

                it's like trying to negotiate with hitler.As the country's view(greece) will never change that's why they are waiting on a compromise.
                Last edited by George S.; 01-26-2011, 04:46 PM. Reason: edit
                "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                GOTSE DELCEV

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                • George S.
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 10116

                  In answer to that makedonetz i don't think gruevski & co have the balls to tell the greeks off & tell them to end the name negotions.
                  "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                  GOTSE DELCEV

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                  • Makedonetz
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 1080

                    George S

                    I can't fatham Gruevski sitting next to papandraou at the negotiation table and listen to this idiot talk like they have a clue about our culture. Gruevski looks like a man of stature and power he should tell greece what he really thinks. Gruevski needs to think back how much Krva our forfathers have spilled on Egej soil and tell them we are Macedonians don't like it then yebese. Seeing Gruevski family is from Egej you would think he would have some more passion in seeing there is no negotiations when it comes to greece.
                    Makedoncite se borat
                    za svoite pravdini!

                    "The one who works for joining of Macedonia to Bulgaria,Greece or Serbia can consider himself as a good Bulgarian, Greek or Serb, but not a good Macedonian"
                    - Goce Delchev

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                    • makedonche
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 3242

                      So the Greek PM is not optimistic............ care factor..0 , about what he thinks or doesn't think!
                      On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"

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                      • Makedonetz
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 1080

                        Originally posted by makedonche View Post
                        So the Greek PM is not optimistic............ care factor..0 , about what he thinks or doesn't think!
                        greece needs to worry about not going under financially and leave this shit buried their stupidity in rational everyday thinking.
                        Makedoncite se borat
                        za svoite pravdini!

                        "The one who works for joining of Macedonia to Bulgaria,Greece or Serbia can consider himself as a good Bulgarian, Greek or Serb, but not a good Macedonian"
                        - Goce Delchev

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                        • Makedonetz
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 1080

                          BS Continues

                          Lets kiss some more greek @ss

                          FM Milososki: Dialogue for trust building

                          Prague, 26 January 2011 (MIA) - In light of the February meeting of mediator Matthew Nimetz with Macedonian and Greek negotiators in New York, Macedonia expects confirmation of the countries' commitment to the UN-led process and continuation of dialogue, as well as elimination of the feeling over the process marginalization, says Foreign Minister Antonio Milososki in an interview with Radio Free Europe.

                          He adds that Macedonian negotiator, ambassador Zoran Jolevski has been summoned to Skopje for instructions over the country's stance for commitment to resumption of the dialogue and building trust with Greece, resulting in a solution to the bilateral dispute.

                          Pertaining to the coming meeting with Greek counterpart Dimitris Droutsas in Montenegro, FM Milososki says is would be good if the meeting tackled other issues besides the name row, such as bilateral economic cooperation, elimination of double taxation, as well as opening of new border crossings.

                          With regards to events in Albania, FM Milososki assesses they are not good both for the country and the region, but does not expect any implications on Macedonia or other neighbors. ik/fd/13:17
                          Makedoncite se borat
                          za svoite pravdini!

                          "The one who works for joining of Macedonia to Bulgaria,Greece or Serbia can consider himself as a good Bulgarian, Greek or Serb, but not a good Macedonian"
                          - Goce Delchev

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                          • makedonche
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 3242

                            Quote:
                            building trust with Greece
                            How do you build trust with thieves and liars? The same way the EU did when they let them in to the club, only to have to bail them out?
                            On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"

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                            • Frank
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 687

                              I trust Athens and Sofia to mutuality respect us when the Macedonians grow some courage and end this soft soft approach

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                              • johnMKD
                                Member
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 364

                                I really hope that the Macedonian leaders will have the balls to say "no" once and for all. This is a golden opportunity now that Greece is under the financial crisis.
                                Macedonian and proud!

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