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  • Buktop
    Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 934

    #31
    Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
    Bullshit Prolet, what happened to Macedonia in 2001 was part of America's wider geo-political interests, the shiptari were merely used as a means to achieve those ends...sadly many of our North American friends continue to kiss America's arse and pretend all is good with the relationship and that it was shiptar money that was the root of the evil...
    Kiss my ass Phoenix
    "I'm happy to answer any question and I don't hide from that"

    Never once say you walk upon your final way
    though skies of steel obscure the blue of day.
    Our long awaited hour will draw near
    and our footsteps will thunder - We are Here!

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    • Prolet
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 5241

      #32
      OziMak, You say there were American Soldiers and they were in Arachinovo there were instructors,trainers etc so do you think they would risk their lives in a war zone for free just to help out the Albanians? They were private contractors if we had of payed them they would have come to Macedonia aswell they dont pick sides they go where the money is surly you can understand that. The only thing i can say about the Albanians is that they know what they want, this Greater Albania dream is not something they've made up a few years ago its been in the mind for 100 years and they openly say it you wont hear an Albanian deny that they are not interested in a Greater Albanian state.

      Onur, We have alot of pope seeds in Macedonia especially in the Ohrid district in Galichica but its used for other purposes, even rare pope seeds can be found up north in the Galicnik region because they grow in the mountains. The Americans are in Afghanistan because of the Heroin just like they are in Iraq because of the Oil and Kirkook in Northern Iraq has alot of Oil this is the Kurdish strong hold.

      Onur, The Turkish Forces were in Iraq for a good month cleaning up the PKK Terrorists, what was the outcome there? There was a few casualties from ambushes but i think the Turkish Forces have every right to defend their homeland.
      МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.

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      • Prolet
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 5241

        #33
        Like Buktop said if we made these so called "Donations" to the Republicans im sure they will look at us differently. Thats how lobbying works in America you scratch their backs and they scratch yours.
        МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.

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        • Onur
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2010
          • 2389

          #34
          Originally posted by Prolet View Post
          Onur, The Turkish Forces were in Iraq for a good month cleaning up the PKK Terrorists, what was the outcome there? There was a few casualties from ambushes but i think the Turkish Forces have every right to defend their homeland.

          When our soldiers notice PKK activity near our Iraqi border, they sometimes chase them about 20-30km further into Iraq at most. Whenever this happens, USA and EU protests us for that.

          Turkish army was never able to go further into their base camp since USA occupation, therefore our previous Iraq operations wasn't that successful and effective. Terrorists just escapes southern side and we couldn't get in that far, but i wont be surprised if Turkish army goes further into whole northern Iraq for an operation this summer, by ignoring all EU and USA`s objection.

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          • Phoenix
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 4671

            #35
            Originally posted by Prolet View Post
            OziMak, You say there were American Soldiers and they were in Arachinovo there were instructors,trainers etc so do you think they would risk their lives in a war zone for free just to help out the Albanians? They were private contractors if we had of payed them they would have come to Macedonia aswell they dont pick sides they go where the money is surly you can understand that. The only thing i can say about the Albanians is that they know what they want, this Greater Albania dream is not something they've made up a few years ago its been in the mind for 100 years and they openly say it you wont hear an Albanian deny that they are not interested in a Greater Albanian state.
            Prolet MPRI were working both sides in the 2001 conflict...

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            • Soldier of Macedon
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 13670

              #36

              Macedonia August 2001: Central to an Understanding of 9/11

              The reference in the report to Macedonia is crucial to an understanding of 9/11 and the war on terrorism, because it confirms that US military advisers had integrated a terrorist paramilitary organization linked to Al Qaeda, barely a few weeks before 9/11.

              Moreover, it also confirms that US paratroopers were sent in to save the Al Qaeda sponsored fighters and their US military advisers.

              "Samedin Xhezairi, also known as Commander Hoxha, joined the Kosovo Liberation Army when armed conflict in Kosovo began, fighting in three operation zones. He was a fighter in Chechnya, trained in Afghanistan and acted as the commander of the Mujahideen 112th Brigade operating in the summer of 2001 in the region of Tetovo [Macedonia]. In August of the same year 80 members of the 3/502 battalion of U.S. paratroopers evacuated him from Aracinovo [Macedonia], together with his Albanian extremists and 17 instructors of the U.S. private military company MPRI which was training the Albanian paramilitary formations."

              In other words, the US military was collaborating with Al Qaeda, which according to the Bush administration was involved in the attacks on the WTC and the Pentagon.

              Yet, the US military was working hand in glove with "enemy number one" barely a few weeks before 9/11, and we are led to believe that the Bush administration is committed to waging a battle against Al Qaeda.



              Michel Chossudovsky, 15 February 2005
              In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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              • Soldier of Macedon
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 13670

                #37
                Alexandra Richard. Dubai, one of the seven emirates of the Federation of the United Arab Emirates, North-East of Abi-Dhabi. This city, population 350,000, was the backdrop of a secret meeting between Osama bin Laden and the local CIA agent in July. A partner of the administration of the American Hospital in Dubai claims that public enemy number one stayed at this hospital between the 4th and 14th of July.

                U.S. President George W. Bush has made it clear the war against terrorists will be unremitting and relentless. Even those countries affording shelter to terrorists will not be spared. These words come too late for the Serbs, Gypsies, Jews, Turks and other non-Albanians who have been driven from their ancestral homes in Kosovo by the terrorist Kosovo Liberation Army. It is too late as well for Macedonia, which has been forced by the United States, the European Union and NATO to yield to all the demands of the Albanian terrorists in that country.

                This double standard and lack of consistency when dealing with terrorists calls into question the policies the United States and its NATO allies followed in the Balkans. It also underlines the necessity for the United States and its allies to clean up their act if they wish to retain credibility in the war against terrorism.

                The bombing of Yugoslavia in the spring of 1999 allegedly to stop ethnic cleansing and prevent the Balkans from becoming once again the powder keg of Europe has backfired. Kosovo has become exclusively an Albanian province with the exception of a few stalwart Serbians in the Mitrovica area who live surrounded by barbed wire and are threatened daily with murder and mayhem by their Albanian neighbours. The Balkans, since the end of the bombing, have been in constant turmoil caused by the KLA terrorist activities.

                NATO allowed the KLA, which under the terms of United Nations Resolution 1244 was to be disarmed after the end of the bombing, to keep its weapons. The KLA was renamed the Kosovo Protection Force and been given the task of maintaining peace and security in Kosovo. How well it has been able to carry out this task is summed up in a report dated Feb. 26, 2001, to the Secretary-General of the United Nations, Kofi Annan, which accuses the protection corps of widespread acts of murder, torture and extortion.

                That condemnation should not have come as a surprise. As early as 1998, the U.S. State Department listed the KLA as a terrorist organization financing its operations with money from the international heroin trade and funds supplied from Islamic countries and individuals, including Osama bin Laden. This did not stop the United States from arming and training KLA members in Albania and in the summer of 1998 sending them back into Kosovo to assassinate Serbian mayors, ambush Serbian policemen and intimidate hesitant Kosovo Albanians. The aim was to destabilize Kosovo and overthrow Serbian strongman Slobodan Milosevic.

                Bin Laden and radical Muslim groups have been deeply involved in the Balkans since the civil wars in Bosnia from 1992 to 1995. Despite a UN arms embargo and with the knowledge and support of the United States, arms, ammunition and thousands of Mujahideen fighters were smuggled into Bosnia to help the Muslims. Many remain in Bosnia today and are recognized as a serious threat to Western forces there. The Bosnian government is said to have presented bin Laden with a Bosnian passport in recognition of his contribution to their cause. He and his al-Qaeda network were also active in Kosovo, and KLA members trained in his camps in Afghanistan and Albania.

                Emboldened by the knowledge it could achieve its political objectives by terror, the KLA moved into southern Serbia and initiated, under the eyes of 40,000 NATO troops, a campaign of terror against the Serbian population. Not until NATO permitted the new democratic government of Serbia to send the Serb army back into the area was the KLA routed and sent back across the border into Kosovo.

                Macedonia, with its large Albanian minority, was the KLA's next target. In February, its forces moved against this small and newly independent democracy. The familiar pattern of murder, ambush and intimidation followed. Unlike Serbia, which still possessed a powerful and well-equipped army, Macedonia had little with which to defend itself against the well equipped and battle-hardened KLA fighters. The promises of assistance made by former U.S. president Bill Clinton in return for Macedonia's co-operation during the Yugoslav bombing were forgotten.

                Nevertheless, when the fighting started, it appeared NATO and the European Union might help Macedonia resist the terrorist threat. In March, Lord Robertson, the Secretary-General of NATO, condemned the KLA terror campaign and described them as "murderous thugs." He supported the Macedonian government's refusal to negotiate with the terrorists. Obviously, Lord Robertson was not aware the United States had other ideas about which side to support in Macedonia.

                The message was made clear in May, when U.S. diplomat Robert Fenwick, ostensibly the head of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe, in Macedonia, met secretly in Prizren, Kosovo, with the leaders of the Albanian political parties and KLA representatives. Macedonian officials were not invited. It was clear the United States was backing the Albanian terrorist cause. This was confirmed a month later, when a force of 400 KLA fighters was surrounded in the town of Aracinovo near the capital, Skopje. As Macedonian security forces moved in, they were halted on NATO orders.

                U.S. army buses from Camp Bondsteel in Kosovo arrived to remove all the heavily armed terrorists to a safer area of Macedonia. German reporters later revealed that 17 U.S. military advisors were accompanying the KLA terrorists in Aracinovo.

                In August, fearing the Macedonian forces might be able to defeat the KLA, U.S. Security Advisor Condoleeza Rice flew to Kiev and ordered the Ukrainian government to stop sending further military equipment to Macedonia. Since Ukraine was the only country supplying Macedonia with military assistance, the Macedonians realized continued resistance against the KLA terrorists, the EU and NATO was futile. Macedonia was forced to concede defeat and obliged to accept all the terrorist demands. When the peace treaty was signed, Lord Robertson proclaimed, "This day marks the entry of Macedonia into modern, mainstream Europe ... a very proud day for their country."
                Hypocrisy, treachery, double-standards, etc.
                In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                • Risto the Great
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 15658

                  #38
                  When do we say God Bless America?
                  Risto the Great
                  MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                  "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                  Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                  • George S.
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 10116

                    #39
                    i would not be surprised that washington is behind the 2001 war as the americans supplied the training 7 weapons from kosovo.I reckon it was deliberately started like all things the cia is behind it all.I'm not surprised at all.
                    "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                    GOTSE DELCEV

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                    • George S.
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 10116

                      #40
                      rtg don't forget the in god we trust on the back of their note.their debt is 14 trillion & rising & half of that is by china.So definitely god should bless america.
                      "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                      GOTSE DELCEV

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                      • Zarni
                        Banned
                        • May 2011
                        • 672

                        #41
                        Guys I really hope you all did not disocover this truth just yesterday

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                        • Risto the Great
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 15658

                          #42
                          No, but to be fair, the UMD is yet to work it out. lol
                          Risto the Great
                          MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                          "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                          Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                          • vojnik
                            Member
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 307

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
                            No, but to be fair, the UMD is yet to work it out. lol
                            Risto the only thing we can do is give them time to work up an excuse as to why the American's did it that's if they actually are ready to take in the truth

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                            • DirtyCodingHabitz
                              Member
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 835

                              #44
                              SoM, thanks for posting that information.

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                              • Makedonska_Kafana
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2010
                                • 2642

                                #45
                                If, ANYONE on this board thinks the USA is Macedonia's best friend they need professional help - USA, supports USA investment. Soros, is also the same kind of friend to Macedonia -control freak
                                Last edited by Makedonska_Kafana; 07-02-2011, 04:26 PM.
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