Prespa Agreement

[Liberator of Makedonija]

Northies are offended by our symbols and the name....

Not so the Serbs....
(A major street in Belgrade city center photo taken today)




treasure planet jim and silver

Why is there a street in Belgrade with that name?

[Bill77]

Northies are offended by our symbols and the name....

Not so the Serbs....
(A major street in Belgrade city center photo taken today)




treasure planet jim and silver

[Risto the Great]

I would imagine if one traitor was dealt with appropriately, others will learn fast. Just like old Yugos became "Macedonians" in FROM. Others will become Macedonians in FROM again.

I made up FROM btw. I think it's appropriate.

[Karposh]

Yet Zaev continues to live. Shame on the inhabitants of that former nation.

If only it was just Zaev that needs to be made an example of. Truth is there are hundreds, if not thousands of traitors - traitors that even Judas himself would cringe with shame at, that need to be lined up in Ploshtad Makedonija, in full view of the EU and the UN and summarily shot dead.

[Risto the Great]

Some Macedonians Praise Destroyers of New ‘Hellenic’ Plaques

https://balkaninsight.com/2019/08/16/unknown-hands-destroy-hellenic-plaques-in-north-macedonia/

On social networks, many Macedonians have praised the unknown figures who have removed or destroyed new plaques explaining the ‘Hellenic character’ of various statues in Skopje.

Unknown perpetrators in North Macedonia have removed or smashed plaques added to several statues and monuments in Skopje – which explained that they depict historical figures “belonging to the ancient Hellenic history and civilisation and to world cultural and historic heritage”.

The action occurred just one day after the authorities put them up.

The plaque put on the statue of Alexander the Great has been destroyed altogether, media reported on Friday. So was the plaque put on the monument of Alexander’s father, Philip of Macedon.

The erection of the explanatory plaques, written in Macedonian, Albanian and English, formed part of the landmark “name” agreement signed with Greece in June 2018.

This aimed to finally resolve the decades-long dispute with Greece over the name of the country that saw it change its name from Republic of Macedonia to Republic of North Macedonia.

In exchange, Greece promised to stop blocking its neighbour’s accession to NATO and the start of its EU membership talks.

Under the agreement, North Macedonia also promised to place informative plaques on disputed monuments depicting figures from classical antiquity, which Greece considers an exclusive part of its own heritage.

The monuments were built from 2010 onwards by the previous government led by Nikola Gruevski as part of a grand revamp of the capital, dubbed Skopje 2014. While some locals like them, they further soured relations with Greece, which saw them as a provocation.

Under the “name” deal, North Macedonia also promised to remove the Vergina Sun symbol from public spaces. Also known as the Macedonian Star, it is a stylized sun with 16 triangular rays. It has been another point of dispute between the two countries.

But when local authorities in Skopje and other towns on Thursday started removing the emblems, some locals were not happy.

Media reported that one citizen in the town of Bitola had spray-painted the controversial emblem back on to manholes.

On social networks, meanwhile, many people praised those who had removed the “Hellenic” plaques, or who had repainted the sun symbol back where it once had been.

“Bravo! That’s the way to go,” Dobrila Doreska wrote on Facebook, praising the unknown man who had spray-painted the Vergina Sun back in Bitola.

“Is there anything of Macedonian landmarks that is left to destroy?” Trajce Ognjanov asked dramatically on Facebook.

Some comments were more aggressive, especially towards Prime Minister Zoran Zaev, one of the key architects of the agreement with Greece.

Under a news article that accused Zaev of trying to “change history,” Facebook user Anita Stojanovska wrote: “They should catch you and tattoo the flag [presumably the one with the Vergina Sun] all over your body, you freak. That would be your biggest punishment”.

North Macedonia removed the sun symbol from its national flag in 1995, to ease relations with its neighbour. But it is still widely used by nationalists in north Macedonia. However, they remain free to continue using it, as the deal does not include a ban on its private use.

Hope remains in the smallest of gestures.

[Niko777]

"The City of Skopje with increased inspections and security will protect the new signs on the monuments"

Source: https://www.24.mk/details/grad-skopj...na-spomenicite

P-A-T-H-E-T-I-C

[Vangelovski]

Yet Zaev continues to live. Shame on the inhabitants of that former nation.

Yeah, but notice how they messed with Greece by sticking the sign on crooked? Oh wait, that was just incompetence.

[Risto the Great]

Yet Zaev continues to live. Shame on the inhabitants of that former nation.

[Niko777]

The Prespa and Ohrid agreements in one picture

[vicsinad]

They also added a sign on the Alexander the Great statute that says "In Honor of Alexander the Great, a historic figure belonging to the ancient Hellenic history and civilization..."

[Niko777]

From today:

[Niko777]

Be interesting to see what happens. Will the people in the South like Bitola and Prilep allow this to happen with the monuments and churches?

The people of Bitola already allowed their monuments to be desecrated. The Gruevski regime modified the Macedonian sun on the fountain in the central square a few years ago.

[Stevce]

Be interesting to see what happens. Will the people in the South like Bitola and Prilep allow this to happen with the monuments and churches?

[Niko777]

Amazing. They ban the symbol of Macedonia from being displayed in public spaces and yet they have no issue with a foreign flag flying proudly on all public buildings in western Macedonia that symbolises nothing less than a foreign occupation of that part of Macedonia.

It's the same thing with maps. A map of a united Macedonia is illegal because it goes against the spirit of the Prespa agreement. But maps of a greater Albania are fine.

[Karposh]

Amazing. They ban the symbol of Macedonia from being displayed in public spaces and yet they have no issue with a foreign flag flying proudly on all public buildings in western Macedonia that symbolises nothing less than a foreign occupation of that part of Macedonia. Well done North Macedonia. The process to Denationalized Citizenship is well under way where the good citizens of this emerging power house of progressive ideas and European core values have willingly abandoned the notion of a nation-state and national identity for European liberal-minded fuckery.

Denationalized citizenship is a concept which has emerged due to complex processes associated with globalization and the consequent changes of the role of the nation-state due to privatization, deregulation and increased human rights. These globalization processes occurring most notably since the 1980s have created new and strengthened pre-existing divisions within nation-states. Put simply, denationalized citizenship is when communities have a stronger sense of belonging and identification with smaller cultural and social groups than with their nation-state. For example, some see the United States as a nation of nationalities more than a nation-state. Denationalized citizenship suggests that citizenship can be practiced at a variety of scales and leads to a new understanding of the relationship between citizenship and the nation-state.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denationalized_citizenship