Macedonian Presidential Elections 2014

[Gocka]

Oh so you guys noticed too huh lol It started to smell funny around here sooo.

[George S.]

Also during the elections the Albanians get up to no good .They try to rig the elections.A lot of Albanians come just to vote & nostly they come to show they are more Albanian citizens than Macedonian.Its about time the door was shut & Macedonia is governed for all citizens equally.If Albanians don't like it leave.That's called democracy.If albaniana don't follow our rules they should leave quietly for we are a majority.Also Its not about rights,what you don't need to speak Macedonian,You want your own passports,As a minority you want pre-eminence to the Macedonians who are indigenous to the land.

[stoja11]

Can you speak Macedonian?
Why would you give a Serbian Wikipedia link?
It is available on the Macedonian Wikipedia and much more easily understood by Macedonians on this forum.

My guess is you're a lying Albanian. But we'll see soon enough.

I can, but not much. I don't want to get too personal but my parents (Macedonian father & Serbian mother from Kumanovo) got divorced early, therefore my Serbian is better (but still below average) than my Macedonian.

I feel ashamed for my countrymen calling me "a lying Albanian"....you guys seriously have some problems. But if you keep getting support for your lie, I rather leave this forum. Sramota!

[Risto the Great]

It's only a guess.
We don't know you. In fact, the majority of new members are usually pretending to be something they aren't.

[Soldier of Macedon]

I feel ashamed for my countrymen calling me "a lying Albanian"....you guys seriously have some problems. But if you keep getting support for your lie, I rather leave this forum. Sramota!

We've had a lot of liars come and go. Don't take it personal, if you stick around long enough the truth will inevitably be revealed. If you are Macedonian, that's great. If you're Albanian or something else, that's fine too. If you're pretending to be a Macedonian, then you're just a moron. If you leave then it will confirm what some people think. If you stick around it will prove that you have resilience. Your choice at the end of the day.

[George S.]

stoja it will be root out by impression.You say you are from Switzerland?Aren't you in rom?We'll soon find out & don't try to bs to our admin they wil be onto you,So you lie to us your good as gone.We seen your kind come and go.

[Pavle Pijanica]

http://novamakedonija.com.mk/NewsDetal.asp?vest=21914718176&id=9&prilog=0&setIzdanie=23105

This man should be president of the Republic of Macedonia....

[Vangelovski]

http://novamakedonija.com.mk/NewsDet...tIzdanie=23105

This man should be president of the Republic of Macedonia....

Angelov has been discussed at lenght on this forum, but you haven't really added anything. Why do you think he should be president? All I saw in that interview were some open ended insinuations that did not say anything concrete about what he thinks or what he would do.

[Pavle Pijanica]

Angelov has been discussed at lenght on this forum, but you haven't really added anything. Why do you think he should be president? All I saw in that interview were some open ended insinuations that did not say anything concrete about what he thinks or what he would do.

Well he is playing the typical role of a politician. Like every other potential candidate that would run for a Hierarchial position. But unlike every other potential candidate who try to continue to brown nose the minorities in the Albanians, Angelov being a realist has tells the people how it is and isn't afraid to do so...

Go back last month when discussions between the unification of Kosovo and Albania occurred, Angelov gave his opinion that the idea of Greater Albania will turn to reality if such an event happened. I understand that Macedonia is democratically run and preserves the human rights of other minorities but its a bit far fetched on how we lay down for these minorities to trod on us like the Macedonians are the second class citizens.

Now out of all the potential presidential candidates which other would say that? Biljana Vankovska? Trifun Kostovski? They probably would make a good president for the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia where the biggest minority can raise their national flag wherever they please and where bilingualism is a great idea....but this is the Republic Of Macedonia and we need a president that will not bend over backwards to every demand that's made by them...

That's my opinion Tom...and for the record...and sorry I didn't get back to you on your last post to me...I was part of the Australian Macedonian Human Rights for a year in 2007-2008.

[Vangelovski]

Well he is playing the typical role of a politician..

So why do you think he should be president? You haven't distinguished him from the others in the rest of your post. Angelov said what he thinks is wrong but provided no clue as to what he would do about it - just innuendo...

While he may be one of very few public figures in Macedonia to denounce the actions of Albanian extremists, that does not mean he has a sensible solution. Ljubco Georgievski denounced Albanian extremists AND the Framework Agreement (which Angelov has never done) while he was actually Prime Minister (not just running for election) but that never resulted in anything positive.

[George S.]

TOm you make some valid points.I would say if angelov came & gave clear indication of where he stands then there won't be that much of a confused picture.By the way Miki Dodevski the diaspora candidate appeared on radio saying what people could do to vote.Miki hasn't really explained where he stands on many issues but we know of his leanings to the ruling party.Anything to get elected.He said forget about voting if you aren't registered to vote.Also to go & vote at one of the polling places eg Canberra.Also other requirements licna carta if no passport,also if you have passport you can vote etc.by March??
People who are supposedly mean't to be representing us should explain their portfolio,not many are coming out,is it lack of interest?apathy?etcAlso why are people saying they represent us & jumping ship??Our vote becomes a wasted vote if they change allegiances.What kind of democracy do we have,its a dictatura to be lead by the nose.
Thanks Tom for keeping us on the straight & narrow on the info on the politicians.

[Vangelovski]

Some more pre-election violence...business as usual

http://www.dnevnik.mk/?ItemID=296895...A8A4041142C22B

Партиите реагираат за бомбата во Kарпош
СДСМ: Ова е црна дамка на предизборниот процес

Македонската полиција побрзо, поефикасно и професионално да го расветли случајот со бомбата пред седиштето на СДСМ во Kарпош и да ги пронајде сторителите. Најостро го осудуваме овој бомбашки чин и чиста среќа е што се сите живи и здрави по експлозијата. Ова вчера го побара од МВР првиот човек на младите на СДСМ Стефан Богоев во име на неговата партија, но и на подмладокот на социјалдемократите.

- Сериозниот настан можеше да предизвика уште поголеми последици. Во моментот на експлозијата внатре имаше состанок на локалниот клуб на СДСМ, на кој присуствуваа околу 30-ина млади, од кои едниот од нив влегол непосредно пред експлозијата на бомбата – изјави Богоев.

Тоа што нас н` загрижува, нагласи претседателот на младината, е што МВР првично излезе со став дека можеби целта на нападот не било седиштето на СДСМ, иако истрагата с` уште не беше ни почната.

- Сето ова фрла една црна дамка на предизборниот процес, кој мора и треба да помине мирно – додаде.

Богоев ги отфрли информациите што излегоа во јавноста дека случајот е пријавен од друга страна, а не од младите кои биле присутни.

- Пријавено е од наша страна. Пријавени се и возилата. Имаше увид што траеше околу два часа. Возилата беа тука – нагласи Богоев, и одби да коментира во што и како се сомневаат, оставајќи на МВР да го расветли случајот.

Ресорното министерство вчера не излезе со официјална информација за бомбата кај локалниот социјалдемократски клуб. (Л.Ѓ.)

ВМРО-ДПМНЕ и ДУИ со осуда за инцидентот

Владејачката партија најостро го осудува активирањето на експлозивната направа. ВМРО-ДПМНЕ ги повикува институциите во најбрз можен рок да го расветлат случајот и виновниците да ги изведат пред лицето на правдата.

- Апелираме до сите политички субјекти да се воздржат од политичка злоупотреба на овој настан – додадоа тие во соопштението.

И портпаролот на ДУИ, Бујар Османи, со став како и коалицискиот партнер. Од партијата го осудија чинот и побараа побрзо расветлување на настанот.

[lavce pelagonski]

Ivanov is the official candidate for VMRO-DPMNE

[Vangelovski]

An Albanian NGO wants to use the Badinter Principle for the selection of Presidents now...

http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/arti...sidential-poll

Macedonia Albanians Warned Against Poll Boycott

The Macedonian prime minister told Albanian parties that they would be making a mistake if they heeded one NGO’s call to boycott the April presidential elections.

Prime Minister Nikola Gruevski on Sunday warned against the idea of a boycott, which was suggested recently by an NGO seen as close to his ethnic Albanian partners in the current ruling coalition, the Democratic Union for Integration, DUI.

“I hope that Albanian parties will not do that. If they decide to do it, I think that they would realise that they had made a big mistake,” Gruevski said, without elaborating further.

An ethnic Albanian NGO called Wake Up has called for an Albanian boycott of the forthcoming elections due to the refusal of Gruevski’s main VMRO DPMNE party to take up the DUI’s Idea for a ‘consensus’ president agreed between Macedonian and Albanian parties.

“We call upon other organisations from civil society, the Islamic religious community and the Albanian-language media to actively engage in preventing the election of Macedonian president whom Albanians do not recognise,” the NGO said in a press release.

“No Macedonian president can claim to legitimately represent the country without the votes of the Albanians. We say that in the future the president should be chosen in parliament with a double majority of votes [from both Macedonian and Albanian MPs],” the NGO added.
The call for boycott reflects a rift within the government coalition’s ranks. The NGO’s close links with the DUI were evident at last year’s local elections, when the party endorsed the longstanding head of Wake Up, Artan Grubi, as candidate for mayor of Skopje.

The call for boycott comes after last week Gruevski’s party indirectly refused DUI’s proposal for an inter-party consensus on a new president when it said it would select its own candidate through an open call instead.

A possible boycott could jeopardise the success of the entire election process because, in the second round of voting, many say it will be very hard to secure the required 40 per cent voter turnout without the participation of Albanians, who make one quarter of Macedonia’s population of 2.1 million. It has also been rumoured that the call for a boycott is a step towards a premeditated government scenario for setting up parallel early general elections along with the second round of presidential polls on April 27.

According to this scenario, media have speculated, the prime minister could use the boycott as an excuse to call early general elections to boost voter turnout. Various opinion polls have shown that Gruevski’s party would be the favourite if early elections were held.

[Vangelovski]

Ivanov is the official candidate for VMRO-DPMNE

According to this they haven't selected a candidate yet - that will be done at their convention in 1 March 2014 and there are three contenders.

http://www.dnevnik.mk/default.asp?It...9C1BDBE7A651AD