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Originally posted by Vangelovski
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If you cannot see the correlation of the price of food and some uprisings (like that in Egypt) your a bigger joke than I ever imagined.
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You didn't see it? Here it is again:
Here's some Egypt specialists who didn't even pick up on that! But wtf would they know right? Volk, you have to call the UN...I mean, right now!
http://english.dohainstitute.org/Hom...f-01a983d15fd0
Even Wikipedia doesn't didn't go for price of bread angle. In fact, they rate "food price inflation" all the way down the bottom after police brutality, state of emergency laws, electoral fraud, political censorship, corruption and unemployment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Egyptian_revolutionIf my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John AdamsComment
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You post an non working link and a link to Wikipedia and say, they did not mention it! as your 'proof'!Originally posted by Vangelovski View Post
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Che Guevara and Castro were very honourable revolutionaries. They fought against a corrupt Cuban government and sought to free the people from the American puppets that were leading the country. The goal may have seemed unrealistic, but they prevailed and brought the demise of the Batista regime. Don't you think a revolution or resistance is required in Macedonia, or is that a 'suicide mission' that will only upset Gruevski sympathisers?Originally posted by Vangelovski View PostReally!?!?! It was all bread!?!?!?! What else do you get from blogs?
Have you ever tried reading a semi-academic journal...who am I kidding, you don't even know what that is!
Here's some Egypt specialists who didn't even pick up on that! But wtf would they know right? Volk, you have to call the UN...I mean, right now!
Even Wikipedia doesn't didn't go for price of bread angle. In fact, they rate "food price inflation" all the way down the bottom after police brutality, state of emergency laws, electoral fraud, political censorship, corruption and unemployment.
Whether bread comes before tomatoes and onions is unclear, but I'm sure they had something to do with it as well.
P.S. Castro was fond of his cigars, I have no doubt that is the reason he formed a rebel army and went on a virtual suicide mission...
People like Guevara are some of the most respected people in history, unless of course you fall victim to the American propaganda. He was not even Cuban, and went on a mission to free the peasants from abusive 'government' tyrants.
I recommend people to watch this two part movie/documentary on Che's journey in Cuba and Bolivia. I've also been meaning to watch the Motorcycle Diaries.
Che Guevara Trailer- HD - YouTube
It truly depicts what it means to fight for ones rights and be involved in a struggle for humanity and justice.
On-topic: Does anyone have a link to Gruevski's UN speech with English subtitles? I have only managed to find short extracts in news articles thus far.
EDIT: I found Vangelovski's document link, but anyone have a video?Last edited by EgejskaMakedonia; 09-28-2011, 06:55 AM.Comment
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The link works in the original. I knew you missed it.Originally posted by Volk View PostYou post an non working link and a link to Wikipedia and say, they did not mention it! as your 'proof'!If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John AdamsComment
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EM, I was being sarcastic about the cigarsOriginally posted by EgejskaMakedonia View Post
But the Cuban revolution was a virtual suicide mission. You seem like you have read up on it...surely you know that the "landing party" consisted of a handful of people that nearly died in the first few days. They could have done things differently, but I guess their plan worked in the end.
If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John AdamsComment
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Yeh, they were a bit of a crazy bunch, the kind that would finish their cigar before going into battle. From what I remember, Che suffered from spouts of asthma attacks, and being a medical student, you'd think he'd know better.Originally posted by Vangelovski View PostEM, I was being sarcastic about the cigars But the Cuban revolution was a virtual suicide mission. You seem like you have read up on it...surely you know that the "landing party" consisted of a handful of people that nearly died in the first few days. They could have done things differently, but I guess their plan worked in the end.
It started off as a small landing party, but the main aim was to convince and recruit the peasants to join the cause. That's why I speak of short-term goals, as these revolutionaries reclaimed key strategic positions one at a time, and further heightened their cause. Not sure how credible this stat is, but I remember something along the lines of '99% of the land was owned by 1% of the population' under the Batista regime.
Amazing stuff how they pulled it off...surely the Macedonians are capable of regaining control over their own nation in the 21st century through other means?Comment
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I think Macedonians, like any other people, can take control of their country. They just need to want to do it, and wanting to do comes from a personal moral revolution.Originally posted by EgejskaMakedonia View Post
Although I completely disagree with Che's socialist worldview, I do admire his passion and his willingness to take action based on his principles. Though, I have read that he was known to steal cigars from his comrades. I'm not sure whether this is true or not, but I also share his like of fine Cuban cigars...though only on occassion
If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John AdamsComment
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This being the case, where's my cigar for congratulating you on your newborn?but I also share his like of fine Cuban cigars...though only on occassionOn Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"Comment
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I sent it Cuban express - its guaranteed to arrive in 18 months!Originally posted by makedonche View PostIf my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John AdamsComment
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HaHa.......18 months from when?Originally posted by Vangelovski View PostOn Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"Comment
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As soon as the courier picks it up. I called him a year ago - he should be here soonOriginally posted by makedonche View Post
If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John AdamsComment
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Call the courier and cancel the delivery, It's quicker if AI come and pick it up in the not too distant future!Originally posted by Vangelovski View PostAs soon as the courier picks it up. I called him a year ago - he should be here soon
On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"Comment
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Will do. But he may have already left and I will incur the 5000 peso fee...Originally posted by makedonche View PostCall the courier and cancel the delivery, It's quicker if AI come and pick it up in the not too distant future!If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John AdamsComment
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HaHa.......I'll reimburse you on arrival!Originally posted by Vangelovski View PostOn Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"Comment
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