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  • Onur
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 2389

    International crisis group is Brussels based EU`s puppet organization controlled by eurocrats.

    If you check their website, you will see that in most of the articles, Greece is either directly or indirectly involved in all articles/crises, whether it`s Aegean sea borders, Cyprus or Macedonia`s name issues. BUT in all of them, you can only see idiotic recommendations for Turkish Cypriot, Turkish and Macedonians but nothing for Greek government except some wishful positive thoughts and praising.

    Also it`s quite funny to see that while there is no government in Brussels for more than a year (holding the world record, even longer than war driven Iraq) and it`s on the verge of breaking up, there is nothing about Belgium. They pretend that everything is superb at their doorstep while nation states like Macedonia and Turkey are always bad, evil and wrong.

    These EU funded puppet organizations are not only enemy of Macedonia but they are enemy of all nation states and their sole job is deteriorate and destroy all nation states outside their control, sphere of influence.


    But don't bother with them cuz their end is nigh.

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    • Zarni
      Banned
      • May 2011
      • 672



      Write to them and state your concern

      Dont be polite
      Dont mince your words

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      • Voltron
        Banned
        • Jan 2011
        • 1362

        Although unrelated to this thread, anybody that has been to Brussels can tell you that everything over there works to a tee. Public Transportation is always spot on and there is not so much as a hiccup in Govt. mechanisms. Comparing it to Iraq is just laughable. Even if Brussels doesnt form a govt soon, they will still be light years ahead of the Balkans.

        Regarding assertations that the ICG favors Greece is a stretch.

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        • Phoenix
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 4671

          Originally posted by Voltron View Post
          Although unrelated to this thread, anybody that has been to Brussels can tell you that everything over there works to a tee. Public Transportation is always spot on and there is not so much as a hiccup in Govt. mechanisms. Comparing it to Iraq is just laughable. Even if Brussels doesnt form a govt soon, they will still be light years ahead of the Balkans.

          Regarding assertations that the ICG favors Greece is a stretch.
          What planet do you live on voltron...?

          Belgium is kept from splitting at the seams by hosting the EU's and NATO's administrative machinery and still they're a dysfunctional fabrication where ethnic tension simmers below the surface and the threat of partition is regularly in the news...their inability to form a government for over 12 months is the very least of their problems...

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          • Phoenix
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 4671

            Originally posted by Zarni View Post
            http://www.crisisgroup.org/en/about/contact.aspx

            Write to them and state your concern

            Dont be polite
            Dont mince your words
            I think the International Crisis Group is a self serving organization that fabricates a crisis in order to justify its existence...

            Fancy suggesting the name of Macedonia's airport and the Skopje 2014 project equates to creating a "crisis"...

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            • Zarni
              Banned
              • May 2011
              • 672

              My thoughts on Brussels is a clean utopian society on the surface housing Europe’s elites and fat cats but beneath the surface is a artificial time bomb were everyone is on time and miserable in all respects a fake entity that should be blown of the face of the Earth for all our goods especially the Macedonians hell I will be kind and say including the interests of everyday Greeks too

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              • Voltron
                Banned
                • Jan 2011
                • 1362

                Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
                What planet do you live on voltron...?

                Belgium is kept from splitting at the seams by hosting the EU's and NATO's administrative machinery and still they're a dysfunctional fabrication where ethnic tension simmers below the surface and the threat of partition is regularly in the news...their inability to form a government for over 12 months is the very least of their problems...
                Ethnic tensions simmer ? As if a bloodbath will break out in Brussels.
                Im familiar with their political problems, all im saying is on the ground you wouldnt know the difference. Even if a partition happens it will be without a wimper.

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                • Onur
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 2389

                  Originally posted by Voltron View Post
                  Although unrelated to this thread, anybody that has been to Brussels can tell you that everything over there works to a tee. Public Transportation is always spot on and there is not so much as a hiccup in Govt. mechanisms. Comparing it to Iraq is just laughable. Even if Brussels doesnt form a govt soon, they will still be light years ahead of the Balkans

                  Voltron, you rarely or never speak about the main subject of the threads anyway, so why bother reminding that to us???

                  Yes, i shouldn't compare Brussels with Iraq because the democracy and level of cohesion in Belgium is even lower than Iraq. Also ethnic rivalry is more intense, so they cant even sit down and have an agreement to form their own government for about two years. Even their president doesn't know their own anthem and he thinks French anthem is theirs.

                  Belgium is ahead of what?? Public transportation?? Who the fck cares about public transportation in a tiny country. Is it difficult thing to do in a small country?? I am talking about democracy here. Belgium is just a project of EU and everything about them is fake, just like Greece`s pre-crisis, illusion of prosperity. There is no such a thing as Belgians, they don't have elected rulers for about 2 years, they don't have a proper country but you come here and talk about public transport in Belgium, which is not even bigger than my neighborhood in Izmir!!!

                  Greece had AA+ credit rating just weeks b4 the crisis announcement. Was it real? Nope, it was fake and currently, you have even lower rating than cambodia.

                  Greece was the most prosperous country in Balkans but was it real? Nope, you were living with someone else`s money and that wasn't your own life. The ones who doesn't produce anything cannot prosper. What Greeks produced/ing???, nothing!!!


                  If ordinary Greek people as blind as you, then i am just pity for you guys.

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                  • Voltron
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 1362

                    Listen, I just wanted to correct you about Brussels. Many multi-national companies do business there and you made it seem that its a big deal since they have no govt. As if that had any impact on the ground whatsoever. Anyway, continue with the subject of the thread.

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                    • Zarni
                      Banned
                      • May 2011
                      • 672

                      Brussels as the administrative capital of the EU empire has everything to do with organisations like the ICG that exist for one purpose to find a State to experiment, mould and shape so it's staff can remain employed with a well paid and benefit rich jobs
                      Last edited by Zarni; 08-15-2011, 08:39 AM.

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                      • Phoenix
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 4671

                        Originally posted by Voltron View Post
                        Ethnic tensions simmer ? As if a bloodbath will break out in Brussels.
                        Im familiar with their political problems, all im saying is on the ground you wouldnt know the difference. Even if a partition happens it will be without a wimper.
                        Voltron, you seem to be pretty naive...in a truly American way.

                        FYI, Europeans have been killing each other on a continuous basis for centuries, the recent lull in the butchery is certainly not the norm...

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                        • Voltron
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 1362

                          Yes they have, but I dont think the Belgium ppl have it in them.
                          Last edited by Voltron; 08-15-2011, 09:36 AM.

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                          • julie
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2009
                            • 3869

                            Originally posted by Onur View Post
                            International crisis group is Brussels based EU`s puppet organization controlled by eurocrats.

                            If you check their website, you will see that in most of the articles, Greece is either directly or indirectly involved in all articles/crises, whether it`s Aegean sea borders, Cyprus or Macedonia`s name issues. BUT in all of them, you can only see idiotic recommendations for Turkish Cypriot, Turkish and Macedonians but nothing for Greek government except some wishful positive thoughts and praising.

                            Also it`s quite funny to see that while there is no government in Brussels for more than a year (holding the world record, even longer than war driven Iraq) and it`s on the verge of breaking up, there is nothing about Belgium. They pretend that everything is superb at their doorstep while nation states like Macedonia and Turkey are always bad, evil and wrong.

                            These EU funded puppet organizations are not only enemy of Macedonia but they are enemy of all nation states and their sole job is deteriorate and destroy all nation states outside their control, sphere of influence.


                            But don't bother with them cuz their end is nigh.
                            Well said Onur!!!
                            "The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task."__________________Gotse Delchev

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                            • Pelister
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 2742

                              The trouble is that the Macedonian politicians have this fantasy that the E.U is some kind of holy grail. The E.U wants us erased. That much is very clear. The catch words they try to push onto the Macedonians is 'multi ethnic', 'open society' but these are basically euphamism's for stopping the assimilation of the Albanian minority, which is essential in any modern society to the viability and integrity and continued existence of a nation State. They are using benevolent language, to push an agenda onto the Macedonians, when what they are in fact doing is dividing and federalizing the Republic along national lines, so that Macedonia ends up being one state with two nationalities, a Macedonian nationality comprised of everyone, and an Albanian nationality comprised only of Albanians. The whole concept of promoting a 'civic society' is propaganda, because that would imply that the Albanians want to become part of a multi colored Macedonian 'nationality', in reality they don't mix, they don't want to mix and they want to break away. The moment the Macedonians show any sign of trying to preserve the integrity of the State, the E.U slams them. Gruevski has do stand up to the anti-Macedonian position of the E.U, otherwise he is just a whore.
                              Last edited by Pelister; 08-16-2011, 02:49 AM.

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                              • lavce pelagonski
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2009
                                • 1993

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                                Стравот на Атина од овој Македонец одел до таму што го нарекле Страшниот Чакаларов гркоубиец и крвожеден комитаџија.

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