Question to the Greeks

[Phoenix]

Feta cheese and all its variants is Greek. The origin of the name has received protection. It's like the champagne for the French. The very word "Feta" means "slice" in greek. This is how it should be served. In slices.

I don't know of too many cheeses anywhere in the world that aren't served sliced or that can't be sliced...should they too be known as exclusively 'greek' products...and while you're wallowing in stupidity, perhaps you can put a copyright or trademark on the ubiquitous sliced bread found in convenience stores all over the western world...you'd have a strong case, sunshine.
Afterall, you gave the western world 'culture' and feta means 'slice'...

[spitfire]

I don't know of too many cheeses anywhere in the world that aren't served sliced or that can't be sliced...should they too be known as exclusively 'greek' products...and while you're wallowing in stupidity, perhaps you can put a copyright or trademark on the ubiquitous sliced bread found in convenience stores all over the western world...you'd have a strong case, sunshine.
Afterall, you gave the western world 'culture' and feta means 'slice'...

Who's wallowing in stupidity?

I think you need to read again exactly what I wrote. Since 2002, "feta" has been a protected designation of origin product in the European Union. According to the relevant EU legislation, only those cheeses produced in a traditional way in some areas of Greece (mainland and the island of Lesbos), and made from sheep's milk, or from a mixture of sheep and goat's milk (up to 30%) of the same area, may bear the name "feta". However, similar white-brined cheeses (often called "white cheese" in various languages) are found in the Eastern Mediterranean and around the Black Sea.

Designation of origin product is why you cannot produce under the name "champagne" wine anywhere in the world except France. The name used for non French champagne is sparkling wine.

So I'm expecting you now to reconsider "the wallowing in stupidity", since you see me as an enemy because I'm Greek, instead of thinking me as an individual, you arrogant piece of selfishness!

[Philosopher]

I don't know of too many cheeses anywhere in the world that aren't served sliced or that can't be sliced...should they too be known as exclusively 'greek' products...and while you're wallowing in stupidity, perhaps you can put a copyright or trademark on the ubiquitous sliced bread found in convenience stores all over the western world...you'd have a strong case, sunshine.
Afterall, you gave the western world 'culture' and feta means 'slice'...

It is not him that is wallowing in stupidity. He is expressing the general consensus about the origin of the cheese and that the word feta is of Hellenic origin.

I think an argument can be made -- I cannot prove it -- that something resembling "feta" originated in the Middle East and was adopted by the Greeks. I suspect that the Greeks called it "feta", since it was served sliced.

All speculation on my part.

[Philosopher]

Who's wallowing in stupidity?

I think you need to read again exactly what I wrote. Since 2002, "feta" has been a protected designation of origin product in the European Union. According to the relevant EU legislation, only those cheeses produced in a traditional way in some areas of Greece (mainland and the island of Lesbos), and made from sheep's milk, or from a mixture of sheep and goat's milk (up to 30%) of the same area, may bear the name "feta". However, similar white-brined cheeses (often called "white cheese" in various languages) are found in the Eastern Mediterranean and around the Black Sea.

Designation of origin product is why you cannot produce under the name "champagne" wine anywhere in the world except France. The name used for non French champagne is sparkling wine.

So I'm expecting you now to reconsider "the wallowing in stupidity", since you see me as an enemy because I'm Greek, instead of thinking me as an individual, you arrogant piece of selfishness!

I think that is about right. In Macedonian, we call it "white cheese". Yes, feta is a trademark of sorts, similar to Cognac, but "white cheese", which is the same thing in the Eastern Mediterranean, is not under the trademark.

So I would say I think it is highly likely that something resembling a sliced "white cheese" originated in south west Asia, and was later called feta by the Greeks.

[Phoenix]

It is not him that is wallowing in stupidity. He is expressing the general consensus about the origin of the cheese and that the word feta is of Hellenic origin.

I think an argument can be made -- I cannot prove it -- that something resembling "feta" originated in the Middle East and was adopted by the Greeks. I suspect that the Greeks called it "feta", since it was served sliced.

All speculation on my part.

I think that most Greeks wallow in stupidity.
That would include spitfire.

[spitfire]

I think that is about right. In Macedonian, we call it "white cheese". Yes, feta is a trademark of sorts, similar to other names, but "white cheese", which is the same thing in the Eastern Mediterranean, is not under the trademark.

So I would say I think it is highly likely that something resembling a sliced "white cheese" originated in south west Asia, and was later called feta by the Greeks.

As for the first part, it is exactly like so. Of course you can make white cheese. Everybody can. But under a certain name this product is protected.
So "Feta" is Greek because under the name "Feta" it has become very popular and a good selling point if white cheese beared that name.

Where it comes from? I really, honestly can't say. But when you say Feta you mean Greek white cheese, not Italian white cheese.

[spitfire]

I think that most Greeks wallow in stupidity.
That would include spitfire.

No matter how hard you try to turn this into a Macedonia vs Greece issue, you won't make it.

I think that you wallow in stupidity and this means you alone!

[Philosopher]

As for the first part, it is exactly like so. Of course you can make white cheese. Everybody can. But under a certain name this product is protected.
So "Feta" is Greek because under the name "Feta" it has become very popular and and a good selling point if white cheese beared that name.

Where it comes from? I really, honestly can't say. But when you say Feta you mean Greek white cheese, not Italian white cheese.

I agree.

Feta is Greek white cheese. Macedonian feta is just white cheese. The name feta is protected, again, similar to Cognac.

[Phoenix]

No matter how hard you try to turn this into a Macedonia vs Greece issue, you won't make it.

I think that you wallow in stupidity and this means you alone!

Why do you think I'd make it into a Macedonian Vs Greek thing?

I'm just stating the bloody obvious...

Your analogy between champagne and feta is completely irrelevant, and stupid.

Champagne and other wine varieties have copyright and trademark protection because of the name of the regions that the product originates from.
Where as you're basing your argument on the word 'slice'.
You can 'slice' virtually anything, that doesn't mean it should be exclusively 'greek' in origin, nor should you have the resulting commercial rewards of that.

That logic is common in most things named 'greek'...coffee, baklava, feta, salad...I've even seen an online recipe for fried fuckin fish labelled as 'greek'...the list is endless, as the moussaka post that started this clearly illustrates...

[Philosopher]

Why do you think I'd make it into a Macedonian Vs Greek thing?

I'm just stating the bloody obvious...

Your analogy between champagne and feta is completely irrelevant, and stupid.

Champagne and other wine varieties have copyright and trademark protection because of the name of the regions that the product originates from.
Where as you're basing your argument on the word 'slice'.
You can 'slice' virtually anything, that doesn't mean it should be exclusively 'greek' in origin, nor should you have the resulting commercial rewards of that.

That logic is common in most things named 'greek'...coffee, baklava, feta, salad...I've even seen an online recipe for fried fuckin fish labelled as 'greek'...the list is endless, as the moussaka post that started this clearly illustrates...

You have a point Phoenix.

Edit: At the same time, when you think about it, the word "feta" is Greek.

[spitfire]

Why do you think I'd make it into a Macedonian Vs Greek thing?

I'm just stating the bloody obvious...

Your analogy between champagne and feta is completely irrelevant, and stupid.

Champagne and other wine varieties have copyright and trademark protection because of the name of the regions that the product originates from.
Where as you're basing your argument on the word 'slice'.
You can 'slice' virtually anything, that doesn't mean it should be exclusively 'greek' in origin, nor should you have the resulting commercial rewards of that.

That logic is common in most things named 'greek'...coffee, baklava, feta, salad...I've even seen an online recipe for fried fuckin fish labelled as 'greek'...the list is endless, as the moussaka post that started this clearly illustrates...

Really? Just because champagne happens to be called under the territory it's being produced, it is not what makes it protected.

So your argument here is wallowing in stupidity.

What is also wallowing in stupidity is you blindness. I already wrote why I think baklava and coffee are turkish (the coffee is arabic), but you didn't even see it.

Another wallowing stupidity of yours is that you simply can't understand that seeing something on the net, doesn't mean that Greece is responsible neither for the posting or your wallowing stupidity to take it as an officially and certified thesis.

And by doing all of the above, you turn this into a Greece vs Macedonia issue by stating that most Greeks wallow in stupidity. DON'T LIE, everything is writen.

[makedonche]

Didn't the Greeks take the Danish to the International Court over the use of the name "Feta Cheese"?

[spitfire]

Didn't the Greeks take the Danish to the International Court over the use of the name "Feta Cheese"?

I'm not familiar with that but if it happened it very righteously happened, as in the case where Greece would produce a cheese under the name Danish Blue.

[Phoenix]

You have a point Phoenix.

Edit: At the same time, when you think about it, the word "feta" is Greek.

If the word Feta is greek, does that necessarily mean that every cheese of that style/process/ingredients should be labelled as an exclusive Greek product/idea/invention?

I'm not sure if the word Feta and it's meaning is the issue here...I think the issue is that the Greeks want exclusive rights over that style of cheese, which we all know exists in the wider geographical region of the Balkans and further afield in the Middle East, where possibly and more probably it's real origin can be traced.

'Greek' yoghurt is another glaring example of this chauvinistic madness, cultural thievery and self serving promotional arrogance of our little plate smashing friends.

[Phoenix]

Didn't the Greeks take the Danish to the International Court over the use of the name "Feta Cheese"?

I always choose Danish Feta above anything labelled 'greek' or Bulgarian.
The Danes do a bloody good job...minus all the bullshit.