17 year old Momce Makedonce from Sydney

[Momce Makedonce]

Why do you dislike Serbs?

The first reason would be that they dont recognize our Church. Then would be the fact that they are pretty close with the greeks and I am presuming that means they dont recognise our history either. Then would be the fact that they played a role in the partition of Macedonia. And the final reason would be the fact that on a personal level I find them to be very up themselves. I remember going to a Sydney Makedonia (Bankstown City Lions) against Bonnyrigg White Eagles game and I heard the abuse they were screaming. Thats when my disrespect for them started and over the years as I found out a bit more I would say it has intensified.

[Momce Makedonce]

Of course it is. It has had many influences over the last 2000 years. English of 1000 years ago is completely unintelligible to modern English speakers. Do you think this is a huge problem Momce?

Momce, are you aware the Greeks actually changed their language to make it more like something the ancient Greek states spoke 2000 years earlier? They did this in the 1800's and finally settled on their written language in 1976.

Very little is known of the ancient Macedonian language. However we do know that the Macedonian language of 500 years ago has virtually remained unchanged to this very day.

http://macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?t=3066

In direct contrast, the English language of 500 years ago could barely be compared to modern English in the same fashion.

I hope that helps for a start.

I would not say that it is bad. However I am interested in knowing the type of influences which affected the language. Would you be able to tell me that?

[Risto the Great]

My friend who is Maco gets angry when I say I dislike Serbs even after I told him the reasons behind it. According to him “we should be brothers”.

Why do you dislike Serbs?

[Risto the Great]

Why do Greeks call us Slavs when we are related to the Ancient Macedonians?

They do this to negate the modern Macedonian identity. By inventing an alternative term to describe the indigenous people of Macedonia (the Macedonians) they seek to present a case for some Greek ownership of any references to ancient Macedonia. Greeks of any extraction had always been a minority in Macedonia up until 80 odd years ago. To suggest ancient Macedonians were Greek is ridiculous. To suggest modern Greeks are Macedonians is beyond ridiculous.

There is no modern ethnicity called "Slav" and there is considerable debate about who historically were ever "Slavs" and also what it meant to be a "Slav". On the other hand, there are numerous ethnicities who belong to the Slavic language family. We Macedonians have very little in common with say Russians from a cultural or ethnic perspective, yet we share numerous words from a language perspective.

[Risto the Great]

Is the current Macedonian language different from Ancient Macedonian?

Of course it is. It has had many influences over the last 2000 years. English of 1000 years ago is completely unintelligible to modern English speakers. Do you think this is a huge problem Momce?

Momce, are you aware the Greeks actually changed their language to make it more like something the ancient Greek states spoke 2000 years earlier? They did this in the 1800's and finally settled on their written language in 1976.

Very little is known of the ancient Macedonian language. However we do know that the Macedonian language of 500 years ago has virtually remained unchanged to this very day.

http://macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?t=3066

In direct contrast, the English language of 500 years ago could barely be compared to modern English in the same fashion.

I hope that helps for a start.

[Daskalot]

Thank you all for the warm welcomes. I have come up with a few questions which I hope people here can provide me with answers. Probably common knowledge questions for a lot of members but anyway.

Why did Macedonia join Yugoslavia?

How did the current Macedonian last names come to be? Also why do some end in “ski” and others in a ” v”?

Is the current Macedonian language different from Ancient Macedonian?
Why is the Macedonian language similar to its neighbours such as Serbia, Croatia, Bulgaria?

Why do Greeks call us Slavs when we are related to the Ancient Macedonians?

Is there any way in which Macedonia can get its lost land back?

This is probably a childish question to ask. But I always wonder why don’t most of the Macedonians of today not care about Macedonia? This is mostly regarding the younger generation in their teenage years like me. They seem to me like they have no clue of general Macedonian history, events, accomplishments and have no self respect. My friend who is Maco gets angry when I say I dislike Serbs even after I told him the reasons behind it. According to him “we should be brothers”. Maybe its just the fact that he knows nothing like a lot of the other ones that are so Westernised you could mistake them for a skip if you didn’t know any better. Its really strange because with a country with a history like Macedonia a kid should be proud and want to know about it. Its really sad when you ask a kid a simple question like when Macedonia was split between Greece, Bulgaria and Serbia and they don’t know the answer.


Thats about it for now

Welcome Momce, you have a lot of questions but I will start with why our language is similar to other Balkan languages.
Macedonian belongs to the Slavic grouping of languages. There are many theories as to why the languages are similar.
There are many more language groups in the world, the Latin and Germanic are other such examples.
I will try and find more detailed information for you here on the forum.

[Momce Makedonce]

Thank you all for the warm welcomes. I have come up with a few questions which I hope people here can provide me with answers. Probably common knowledge questions for a lot of members but anyway.

Why did Macedonia join Yugoslavia?

How did the current Macedonian last names come to be? Also why do some end in “ski” and others in a ” v”?

Is the current Macedonian language different from Ancient Macedonian?
Why is the Macedonian language similar to its neighbours such as Serbia, Croatia, Bulgaria?

Why do Greeks call us Slavs when we are related to the Ancient Macedonians?

Is there any way in which Macedonia can get its lost land back?

This is probably a childish question to ask. But I always wonder why don’t most of the Macedonians of today not care about Macedonia? This is mostly regarding the younger generation in their teenage years like me. They seem to me like they have no clue of general Macedonian history, events, accomplishments and have no self respect. My friend who is Maco gets angry when I say I dislike Serbs even after I told him the reasons behind it. According to him “we should be brothers”. Maybe its just the fact that he knows nothing like a lot of the other ones that are so Westernised you could mistake them for a skip if you didn’t know any better. Its really strange because with a country with a history like Macedonia a kid should be proud and want to know about it. Its really sad when you ask a kid a simple question like when Macedonia was split between Greece, Bulgaria and Serbia and they don’t know the answer.


Thats about it for now

[George S.]

welcome aboard MM there's quite abit of history here on macedonia.If you need guidance there's plenty of help here you have come to the right place.

[makedonche]

MomcheMakedonce

Welcome, and bring more of your Macedonian friends as well!

[chentovist]

Dobrodojde Momce i golem pozdrav

[Risto the Great]

Welcome MM.
Plenty of resources here.
All the best.

[Momce Makedonce]

Welcome. Go ahead and ask anything, there are many here who would be glad to help. As lavce said, it's great to see young Macedonians showing interest in their heritage and culture. I'm a year older than you, so there's a handful of us here in the same age bracket now.

Thanks EgejskaMakedonia. I am just trying to think of all the questions which I have had recently.

[Momce Makedonce]

Welcome Momce it is good to have more young Macedonians interested about their own history.

Thanks Lavce, agreed it seems to me there isnt enough interested in my age group. But perhaps that is only the Macedonians I know.

[Momce Makedonce]

Welcome Momce Makedonce. Do you can speak Macedonian?

Mozam da se razberam po nashe ama nekogash malce tesko mie. But yes I do speak Macedonian

[Momce Makedonce]

We have the same age momce makedonce but i'm from Paris

Very nice, I have some relatives living in France but not Paris though