Albanianization in Macedonia

[Volk]

We should form some kind of federation. But what would we call it? I know, we could call it Yugoslavia.

Oh my, I am in a time warp.

Seriously, I think the Serbs can fail all by themselves.

Macedonians need to worry about their own infestation and their self respect. It is the self-respect that is required.

You discount the Serbs far to easily.

Once kosovo is settled, all albanian eyes will glare upon Macedonia for division.

Ohrid Agreement is only a prelude to this.

[Big Bad Sven]

Brothers, the only way for this Albanian infestation to stop is to join forces with Serbia - we don't have the clout or will to do this alone!

My brother, we cannot take any risks!

Macedonia should join serbia and greece to form a "loose federation", only then can we orthodox brothers can be safe from the muslim menace.

After the muslims are wipes off the earth, we will crush Bulgaria as well. Orthodox pride forever.

[Risto the Great]

You discount the Serbs far to easily.

Once kosovo is settled, all albanian eyes will glare upon Macedonia for division.

Ohrid Agreement is only a prelude to this.

And the Serbs will do exactly what to help Macedonia?

[TrueMako]

We should form some kind of federation. But what would we call it? I know, we could call it Yugoslavia.

Oh my, I am in a time warp.

Seriously, I think the Serbs can fail all by themselves.

Macedonians need to worry about their own infestation and their self respect. It is the self-respect that is required.

Was Yugoslavia that bad for us? We had our official language respected, we cultivated and created a world-wide brand (Ajvar) and we had the shiptars under control!

We were the only state to split off peacefully in the 90's - show's Serbia's respect for us I think.

And the Serbs will do exactly what to help Macedonia?

30,000 full-time army isn't anything to scoff at. Their military intervention and cooperation in this 'ilirida' mess, in exchange for our mutual actions for Serbia in Kosovo.

In essence, what I'm saying is, if we let Kosovo completely leave Serbian hands, we might as well say the same to North-eastern Macedonia guys.

[Razer]

Macedonians need to sort this out by themselves. Bulgaria, Greece and Serbia created enough of a mess. This is an internal issue. Let's give the Macedonians a chance.

[George S.]

we have to help ourselves & not wait on others.Others may not necessarily help us.

[Razer]

And I think Macedonia's army and special forces are pretty capable to handle the Albanians. But political will, and actions, to deal with this come first.

[George S.]

Razer we have astupid govt who thinks they should share their sovereignity to the albanians.Macedonia should first & foremost a tatkovina for the macedonians NOT albanians FUCK them they have been given every right under the sun.The albanians are not missing any rights the only one is a swift kick up the bum.What macedonia needs is a strong army.
Razer have you seen the defence minister is an albanian who is a terrorist from 2001.What do you think of that?

[Razer]

Macedonia's defense minister is Albanian??!!

I agree Macedonia needs a stronger army, especially when there is potential conflicts in the horizon. There is nothing better for the security of one nation that it's army. And it just sends a loud and clear message.

Right now Serbia is not in a position to do any crazy moves. They are trying to clear their image and join the EU. And Serbia's army isn't that reassuring.

[George S.]

Right now in the situation of macedonia they are in no position as they need to change their name.But if you were macedonia how would you deeal with the expanding albanian problem??You are right about building up the army,police units & special forces.As you have described serbia is where it is it is damned if it does & damned if it doesn't & is in no position.

[Razer]

I think many mistakes were done back in 2001, in the Ohrid treaty, and we see the results of them today. Article 7, Point 1 for example - grading Albanian as an official language. This opened pandora's box for the Albanisation. The Macedonian army should have crushed all those terrorists back then.

[Volk]

And the Serbs will do exactly what to help Macedonia?

by stopping official independence of kosovo, they are indirectly helping Macedonia due to the domino effect.

[Vangelovski]

by stopping official independence of kosovo, they are indirectly helping Macedonia due to the domino effect.

Volk, you obviously haven't noticed, because you get all of your information off the back of a beer label, but the Albanians in Macedonia are doing what they are independently of Kosovo. There is no domino effect.

[Risto the Great]

by stopping official independence of kosovo, they are indirectly helping Macedonia due to the domino effect.

Macedonia is officially FYROM. I think too much is read into officialism. Kosovo is well and truly Albanian and I feel sorry for Serbians who came from the region but I don't feel sorry for Serbia about it. Just because it officially isn't independent is quite irrelevant. Macedonia is already dealing with Kosovar institutions and it is obvious that the ethnic Albanians of Macedonia are driving this.

Serbia has nothing to do with this process and I feel sorry for Macedonians who still think they need the Serbian teat. Actually I am angry with them. They have let Macedonia go to the dogs with no signs of redemption whatsoever.

[Volk]

Volk, you obviously haven't noticed, because you get all of your information off the back of a beer label, but the Albanians in Macedonia are doing what they are independently of Kosovo. There is no domino effect.

Shows your understanding of the dynamics.. They are coordinated although there is tension even with them.

Or did you forget about the masses of UCK fighters crossing the borders in 2001, or is that something that you missed during your 'expert analysis'.

Macedonia is officially FYROM. I think too much is read into officialism. Kosovo is well and truly Albanian and I feel sorry for Serbians who came from the region but I don't feel sorry for Serbia about it. Just because it officially isn't independent is quite irrelevant. Macedonia is already dealing with Kosovar institutions and it is obvious that the ethnic Albanians of Macedonia are driving this.

Serbia has nothing to do with this process and I feel sorry for Macedonians who still think they need the Serbian teat. Actually I am angry with them. They have let Macedonia go to the dogs with no signs of redemption whatsoever.

I disagree with you there, only the US, its NATO allies and EU (some still have not) have accepted Kosovo independence.

I am sure you have noticed how the global power is shifting to the east, which does not recognise Kosovo. When the US and EU fall so to will the fake Kosovar "institutions" aka mafia.