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  • Soldier of Macedon
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    Originally posted by Liberator of Makedonija View Post
    Uploader of 'Izgrej zora na svobodata' claiming it's written in Solunski Macedonian, and not in Bulgarian -

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjYUNgNQSfs
    If it was in the Solun dialect one should probably expect words like "нишчо" and "ќе" rather than "ништо" and "ште". Its origin is often attributed to a Bulgar named Aleksandar Morfov, who supposedly wrote it for or at the behest of Todor Aleksandrov. Others suggest it originated in eastern Macedonia. Whatever the case may be, the version that appears to be most common today (as in your link above) is closer to literary Bulgarian than it is to literary Macedonian. That vernacular, even if it was based on a peripheral eastern Macedonian dialect, would not be suitable for a Macedonian anthem.

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  • Liberator of Makedonija
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    Uploader of 'Izgrej zora na svobodata' claiming it's written in Solunski Macedonian, and not in Bulgarian -

    MACEDONIAN MARCH, МАКЕДОНСКИ МАРШ, ПРВА ХИМНА НА Р.МАКЕДОНИЈА. Бугарите велат дека овој марш е Бугарски бидејќи се пее, наводно, на Бугарски јазик, но тие н...

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  • Liberator of Makedonija
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    Just a bit off-topic in response to the posts about the Brsjaci. First time ever I'm discovering that this is a thing:

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  • Carlin
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    Originally posted by Karposh View Post
    A few videos I'd like to share:

    The 1st is of the unofficial anthem of Macedonia (Zemjo Makedonska) being proudly sung by the Macedonians of Pirin:
    Старо и младо на оро Македонско во Пиринска Македонија .Не успеаа крвниците побугарени со нивните пријатели да ги уништат Македонците, тоа започна од 1913 па...


    The 2nd one is not related to the anthem but I found it really sweet just the same. Macedonian kids from Pirin singing “Ne se srami, ne se plashi, Makedonets da si.”
    Македонски деца од Пиринска Македонија си пеат Македонски песни на Македонски јазик .Македонскиот народ на поклон кај Македонскиот великан Јане Сандански.


    And finally, since I'm on the subject of the Macedonians of Pirin, the 3rd video is an extended report of the 1990 gathering at the Rozhen Monastery on the anniversary of Sandanski's murder where an estimated 10,000 Macedonians from all over Pirin gathered to pay their respects (which strangely enough, is at odds with the last Bulgarian census from 2011 which counted a total of 1,654 Macedonians in the whole of Bulgaria?!). I wouldn't bother sitting through the whole half hour duration of the video. I just want people to get a sense of the crowd that day so just fast forward to the scenes where the camera pans through the crowd. It's enormous. The two census results post WWII counted close to 200,000 ethnic Macedonians living in Bulgaria. They were apparently coerced against their will to declare their “Macedonian” identity by the evil commie authorities of the time. Who coerced these Macedonians in 1990 post-Zhivkov Bulgaria to make their way up to Rozhen while running a gauntlet of police batons to display their Macedonian identity?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HLZmIN_Z7c
    Thanks for sharing.

    Makedonska Himna na Makedonija-Velika Britanija (8 years ago):
    Last edited by Carlin; 05-25-2018, 09:52 PM.

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  • Karposh
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    A few videos I'd like to share:

    The 1st is of the unofficial anthem of Macedonia (Zemjo Makedonska) being proudly sung by the Macedonians of Pirin:
    Старо и младо на оро Македонско во Пиринска Македонија .Не успеаа крвниците побугарени со нивните пријатели да ги уништат Македонците, тоа започна од 1913 па...


    The 2nd one is not related to the anthem but I found it really sweet just the same. Macedonian kids from Pirin singing Ne se srami, ne se plashi, Makedonets da si.
    Македонски деца од Пиринска Македонија си пеат Македонски песни на Македонски јазик .Македонскиот народ на поклон кај Македонскиот великан Јане Сандански.


    And finally, since I'm on the subject of the Macedonians of Pirin, the 3rd video is an extended report of the 1990 gathering at the Rozhen Monastery on the anniversary of Sandanski's murder where an estimated 10,000 Macedonians from all over Pirin gathered to pay their respects (which strangely enough, is at odds with the last Bulgarian census from 2011 which counted a total of 1,654 Macedonians in the whole of Bulgaria?!). I wouldn't bother sitting through the whole half hour duration of the video. I just want people to get a sense of the crowd that day so just fast forward to the scenes where the camera pans through the crowd. It's enormous. The two census results post WWII counted close to 200,000 ethnic Macedonians living in Bulgaria. They were apparently coerced against their will to declare their Macedonian identity by the evil commie authorities of the time. Who coerced these Macedonians in 1990 post-Zhivkov Bulgaria to make their way up to Rozhen while running a gauntlet of police batons to display their Macedonian identity?
    Пиринска Македонија||Pirinska Makedonija

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  • Soldier of Macedon
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    Originally posted by Karposh View Post
    Personally, I have always loved ‘Zemjo Makedonska’ as the most appropriate and inspirational songs for the national anthem of Macedonia. It’s the most uplifting song ever composed about Macedonia that speaks of her beauty, her courage, and the frequency with which she gives birth to Macedonian heroes. No matter where or when I hear it, it immediately stirs the Macedonian in me, as I’m sure it does with every Macedonian right around the world......It’s quite simply the perfect song for a national anthem that fills you with pure Macedonian pride instead of bringing you down with whiny lyrics about human rights and never-ending national struggles.
    I agree completely. Many Macedonians already consider it as somewhat of an unofficial anthem in any case. If it did become the official national anthem then I would perhaps consider changing the line which refers to турско ропство as it is no longer relevant. It could be replaced with words like гордо, чесно or храбро or something to that effect, at least that way it doesn't confine the spirit of the song (or part of the song) to a specific period of history. Otherwise, it's great as it is.

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  • Karposh
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    I cant say Im a fan of Izgrej Zora Na Slobodata (or Svobodata). Regardless of how we lost that song to the Bulgarians, when the turncoat Kolishevski banned it over three quarters of a century ago, I dont think it is the most appropriate tune for an anthem. As many of the comments point out, it was originally a military march song that was adopted as a type of anthem by the Macedonians of that time.

    The current anthem isnt too bad I suppose. Although, it too started off as a military song that was sung by the Macedonian army during WWII, the tune, feel and sound of it make it more suitable as a national anthem than Izgrej Zora Na Slobodata. However, even the current Denes Nad Makedonija isnt perfect and I have a few issues with it. On the surface of it, the anthem encapsulates what it means to be a Macedonian in the world today the never ending struggle for Human Rights and to be recognised and accepted as Macedonians. Depressing themes that are saturated with a sense of struggle, human rights violations and the blatant lie that Macedonia lives on in freedom.

    The depressing and suffocating lyrics aside, the current anthem of Macedonia is actually rather difficult to sing correctly. Unless youre a professional singer that can hit the high notes each time, by the time us average singers get to Makedoncite se borat za svojte pravdini", we have reached the limits of what our vocal chords can achieve and can go no higher.

    Personally, I have always loved Zemjo Makedonska as the most appropriate and inspirational songs for the national anthem of Macedonia. Its the most uplifting song ever composed about Macedonia that speaks of her beauty, her courage, and the frequency with which she gives birth to Macedonian heroes. No matter where or when I hear it, it immediately stirs the Macedonian in me, as Im sure it does with every Macedonian right around the world. Its a simple yet powerful tune to sing at sporting matches or any other Macedonian gathering that doesnt require you to be a professional singer in order to reach impossibly high notes. Its quite simply the perfect song for a national anthem that fills you with pure Macedonian pride instead of bringing you down with whiny lyrics about human rights and never-ending national struggles.

    Земјо Македонска

    Земјо Македонска, уважавам те,
    земјо Македонска,
    земјо турско-ропска Македонијо
    уважавам те.

    Уважавам твојте Македонијо
    гори високи,
    горите, висојте
    и во теб херојте Македонијо
    што ги раѓаш ти.

    По теб' се белеат Македонијо,
    безбројни стада,
    стадата белеат
    а гроздови зрејат Македонијо,
    по твој ридови.

    Ништо не те плаши Македонијо,
    на овој бели свет,
    кој душман ќе влезе
    жив нема да излезе Македонијо,
    ти го ставаш в гроб.

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  • Liberator of Makedonija
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    Originally posted by vicsinad View Post
    Can't say I'm a fan of this version haha.

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  • vicsinad
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    Originally posted by Liberator of Makedonija View Post
    Cannot find a version of this song sung in Macedonian anywhere!

    Here you go:

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  • Liberator of Makedonija
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    So what are peoples thoughts in regards to 'Izgrej Zora na Svobodata'. Was it written in one of the literary forms of Bulgarian or a Macedonian dialect? Supposedly the song was composed by a Bulgarian.

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  • Liberator of Makedonija
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    Originally posted by avtonomia View Post
    "Izgrej Zora Na Svobodata" e marsh na makedonskite revolucioneri, prvata himna na Makedonija kojashto drzavnite vlasti od minatiot politicki komunisticki sistem najstrogo ja ZAabranuvale. Nea ja peele makedonskite patrioti, iselenicite, duri i delegatite na Prvoto zasedanie na ASNOM!

    Himnata bila intonirana vo pocetokot na Prvoto zasedanie na ASNOM, odrzano na 2 Avgust 1944 godina vo manastirot Prohor Pcinski.

    Vo 1948 godina bila zabraneta vo NR Makedonija i so toj cin togasnite makedonski vlasti se otkazale od ovaa himna

    Vladimir Perev producent vo MTV i istrazuvac na himnata tvrdi deka "Izgrej Zora Na Svobodata" bila na poracka na Todor Aleksandrov.


    Do you think that macedonia should take it back or?


    Cannot find a version of this song sung in Macedonian anywhere!

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  • avtonomia
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    Macedonian national anthem-Marsh na makedonskite revolucioneri

    "Izgrej Zora Na Svobodata" e marsh na makedonskite revolucioneri, prvata himna na Makedonija kojashto drzavnite vlasti od minatiot politicki komunisticki sistem najstrogo ja ZAabranuvale. Nea ja peele makedonskite patrioti, iselenicite, duri i delegatite na Prvoto zasedanie na ASNOM!

    Himnata bila intonirana vo pocetokot na Prvoto zasedanie na ASNOM, odrzano na 2 Avgust 1944 godina vo manastirot Prohor Pcinski.

    Vo 1948 godina bila zabraneta vo NR Makedonija i so toj cin togasnite makedonski vlasti se otkazale od ovaa himna

    Vladimir Perev producent vo MTV i istrazuvac na himnata tvrdi deka "Izgrej Zora Na Svobodata" bila na poracka na Todor Aleksandrov.


    Do you think that macedonia should take it back or?

    Зора на Свободата - Македонски Марш - YouTube

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  • Makedonetz
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    I think if it was changed we should have this

    Last edited by Makedonetz; 06-16-2010, 09:44 PM.

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  • Serdarot
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    Originally posted by Big Bad Sven View Post
    I must admit Prolet that i have no idea waht a Brsjaci is, or their connection to the vlach of macedonia. Im assuming Brsjak = macedonian, and hence vlach of macedonia are macedonian?
    Brsjaci is one of the Macedonian Tribes.


    Vlachs in Macedonia are Macedonians who are speaking latinized Macedonian.

    edit:

    i personaly dont like the Anthem... but i will not take part in this debate
    Last edited by Serdarot; 06-16-2010, 02:43 PM.

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  • Big Bad Sven
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    Originally posted by Prolet View Post
    BBS, Jordan Piperkata was a Brsjak from Kicevo, he was indeed a Macedonian. I've read reports in the past that the Vlachs from Macedonia are infact Brsjaci and they originate from the Brsjak regions.

    Jordan Piperkata lead the resistance in Kicevo against the Ottoman Army, he is a very important figure in our history.
    I must admit Prolet that i have no idea waht a Brsjaci is, or their connection to the vlach of macedonia. Im assuming Brsjak = macedonian, and hence vlach of macedonia are macedonian?

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