BBS, Jordan Piperkata was a Brsjak from Kicevo, he was indeed a Macedonian. I've read reports in the past that the Vlachs from Macedonia are infact Brsjaci and they originate from the Brsjak regions.
Jordan Piperkata lead the resistance in Kicevo against the Ottoman Army, he is a very important figure in our history.
Macedonian National Anthem
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Originally posted by Prolet View PostWhat nationality was Jordan Piperkata? I thought he was Macedonian? He has a Macedonian name.
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Originally posted by Prolet View PostWhat nationality was Jordan Piperkata? I thought he was Macedonian? He has a Macedonian name.
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Pitu Guli and Jordan Piperkata were not “ethnically” Macedonian but you cant question their will and desire for the Macedonian cause, and call them Macedonian heroes.
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Feeling a bit parochial are we RTG. You know that the only reason Krusevo gets a mention is because it the first time a free republic was declaired and it happened to be there. Ofcoarse there is more to Macedonia and many more patriots died for Macedonia than just those mentioned but you also know why they are mentioned. You cant deny the first republic nor feel bad about it so why bother changing it.
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Mara Buneva? LOL
She killed a Serbian Nachalnik and all of the sudden she is a national hero? Vlado Crnozemski these people are not national heros.
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Originally posted by Da Zhive IMRO View Postor would that be too offensive to the greek and serb censors?
Денес над Македонија се раѓа,
ново сонце на слободата!
Македонците се борат,
за своите правдини!
Македонците се борат,
за своите правдини!
Одново сега знамето се вее,
на Крушевската република!
Гоце Делчев, Питу Гули,
Даме Груев, Сандански!
Гоце Делчев, Питу Гули,
Даме Груев, Сандански!
Горите македонски шумно пеат,
нови песни, нови весници!
Македонија слободна,
слободно живее!
Македонија слободна,
слободно живее!
Today over Macedonia, is being born
the new sun of liberty.
The Macedonians fight,
for their own rights!
The Macedonians fight
for their own rights!
Now once again the flag flies
(that) of the Krushevo Republic
Gotse Delchev, Pitu Guli
Dame Gruev, Sandanski!
Goce Delchev, Pitu Guli
Dame Gruev, Sandanski!
The Macedonian forests sing
new songs and news
Macedonia is liberated
It lives in liberty!
Macedonia is liberated
It lives in liberty!
Macedonia is much more than the "Krushevo Republic" .... it definitely needs changing!
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or would that be too offensive to the greek and serb censors?
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how bout mara buneva, vlado chernozemski, or the miladinov's? or izgrai zora?
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Nikola Karev was erased from the first version of the anthem, anyway... to much politic around it and it would surely brought another claims by the oppositions and albanians, as for this moment I would hold my opinion we'll see later
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No, the anthem should not be changed. It would be too much, and there are to many heroes to honor. And the albanians will cry again to the EU that we just include Macedonian heroes but no Albanians. Leave it as it is.
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I think leave it as it is. Alexander and his lot play a small part of our history albeit their repecussions have reverberated to this day. The greater part of our history the Macedonians have been struggling for their rights as the anthem says. Iligden is mentioned as it was the first victory albeit short live in the momentus struggle. Remember it is not the only uprising in the struggle and many heros before them fell for Macedonia. To list them all we would need several telephone books. They sybolicly represent macedonias struggles. Lets remember them and our traitors in our history books to understand our roots but for beivety sake lets leave it as it is.
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Keep the national anthem how it is. I think it represents the Macedonian people and country very well.
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Mirka Ginova and Cento are great suggestions as well.
Well, perhaps now is not the right time to discuss such an issue, but maybe when things are more relaxed in Macedonia it will be time to open such a debate.
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we always knew Alexander and Filip are an important part of our history. If you were to put it to a poll , I think you would find that sloboda ili smrt are not part of accumulating empires.
Personally, I dont want the anthem changed and at the time it was for the liberation of Macedonia in the 40's and included the Ilindenski Vostanie, and the struggle for our people.
If a verse was to be included to include Chento then that would be awesome, we had many heroes, what about the females, eg Mirka Ginova etc.
Leave it alone, we have enough of a struggle for now to just keep our Macedonian name thanks to the bullshit traitors and shpioni out there
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