Greek and Bulgarian Music and culture

[thessalo-niki]

Kozani

Thesonalika

Hmmmm you said your grand parents were from Kozani...weird so were my mom's parents and her grandparents fought againt you facist Grci and turkey. Let me ask you a question were you guys brought in after my mom's famly was kicked out of their homes and pulled by their hair to do so.....or were you guys "Magically not present when those occured" You guys are nothing but Gerkomani so go suck our Macedonian Balls want to see what a true macedonian looks like come over ill gladly insert my size 11 "Macedonian boot" up your ass aswell

Well, indeed I know nothing. I wouldn’t mind having and sharing any juicy information (even negative or monstrous) about the specific ancestors. My interpretation is they were common, peaceful, insignificant people; so insignificant that nothing was left in memory, even basic stuff like names, occupations or an interesting story to say.
My grandmother was probably born around 1895-1900 at Kozani and left to Kavala at about 1910s where she married her first husband. She soon divorced (rather unusual for those days, but she was very dynamic and it seems that her husband left her) and then got married to my grandfather (who was from Komotini) in the early 1920s. Their shop in Kavala was destroyed in a fire and then my grandfather (though very young) suddenly died when my father was about 10. The mother and the orphan moved to Thessaloniki at about late 30s.
My great-grandparents came from these two cities (Kavala and Kozani) and their surnames were Kozanitis and Tzimtzis, probably meaning that the people of Kavala also originally came from Kozani, too.
We don’t have any property there, but I did have a part-time job in Kozani for a year, so I have visited it many times. Kozani was a very big and wealthy city in 19th century and that is its problem. It couldn’t develop properly into 20th century because it was already developed. It’s infamous for having the worst street layout in Greece and a heavy pollution because of nearby lignite stations. The local joke says its people were more scrooge than Jews, that’s why Jews never settled there. Yet, I did like the city and it has an amazing unified museum of History (focusing to fights against Turks and the Macedonian Struggle), Archeology and Nature. If you come from Kozani, you should definitely pay a visit.
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Odysseas Elytis - Our name is our soul

[johnMKD]

Why do you sound so amazed. Macedonians are indigenous to those areas you mention amongst many other area's so its only natural for invaders to Pick up words spoken on the streets. Thanks for that useful information and let's hope more macedonian (the language for many many centuries of that area) comes back where it belongs and get used again.
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You can take away the land from the Macedonians,
But you can never completely take away macedonian from that land.

And Greeks realize this which is why you would hear them say 'offff Le Le Le Le 'more often.

Bravo Bill! Couldn't have said it better myself!

[Bill77]

It is...very many...they all live in Florina and Kastoria and yes Mitsias is one of them check it out! So is Stanisi by the way.

Why do you sound so amazed. Macedonians are indigenous to those areas you mention amongst many other area's so its only natural for invaders to Pick up words spoken on the streets. Thanks for that useful information and let's hope more macedonian (the language for many many centuries of that area) comes back where it belongs and get used again.
,
You can take away the land from the Macedonians,
But you can never completely take away macedonian from that land.

And Greeks realize this which is why you would hear them say 'offff Le Le Le Le 'more often.

[Mr Mousaka]

So greece likes Bulgarian Transvestites

We like all sort of transvestites, we are not racists, ethnicity no matter as long as they have a nice grnzo!!!

[Mr Mousaka]

Indeed Azis is copy-paste of the song you mentioned of Nikos Vertis. However, the second song is definitely not of Manolis Mitsias; it's a traditional song. Furthermore, the expression "lelele" is NOT used by many many Greeks as you say. It's hardly used only in the regions of Florina and Kastoria....

It is...very many...they all live in Florina and Kastoria and yes Mitsias is one of them check it out! So is Stanisi by the way.

[johnMKD]

Calm down guys...
The songs I posted are:
First (Azis) one is a copy paste of a modern Greek song (link follows)
The second one (λελελε) ..well its a very very old Greek ballad, one of million ballads like this. It was not made to "claim" nothing, it's just a nice song by a man who uses lelele like many many Greeks do

Indeed Azis is copy-paste of the song you mentioned of Nikos Vertis. However, the second song is definitely not of Manolis Mitsias; it's a traditional song. Furthermore, the expression "lelele" is NOT used by many many Greeks as you say. It's hardly used only in the regions of Florina and Kastoria....

[Makedonetz]

Calm down guys...
The songs I posted are:
First (Azis) one is a copy paste of a modern Greek song (link follows)
The second one (λελελε) ..well its a very very old Greek ballad, one of million ballads like this. It was not made to "claim" nothing, it's just a nice song by a man who uses lelele like many many Greeks do

YouTube - Nikos Vertis - Pes to mou ksana

So greece likes Bulgarian Transvestites

[Mr Mousaka]

Calm down guys...
The songs I posted are:
First (Azis) one is a copy paste of a modern Greek song (link follows)
The second one (λελελε) ..well its a very very old Greek ballad, one of million ballads like this. It was not made to "claim" nothing, it's just a nice song by a man who uses lelele like many many Greeks do

YouTube - Nikos Vertis - Pes to mou ksana

[Makedonetz]

Onur can you find a version in turkish to post?

[Onur]

Hey, i found this at related videos and i heard this song in Turkish tv channels several times. Chorus part of the song is Turkish and it`s same words as in lyrics of Turkish version here ;

YouTube - Bitola babam Manastir : Music of Macedonia

[Makedonetz]

Yes i love music from every part of our Beutiful Country :rmacedonia



Boys from Buf

[johnMKD]

JohnMKD

I belive the tones and instruments might be somewhat different. Here are two types let me know if you hear a difference.

Thanks for this.
I can understand the difference, yes; although I'm not a musician to describe it. However, personally I think I am more used to the third version of them (from Lerin). I looove Macedonian music

[Makedonetz]

JohnMKD

I belive the tones and instruments might be somewhat different. Here are two types let me know if you hear a difference.

Kostur Region


Makedonija --Egejska pesna


Mala Prespa/Florina Region

[johnMKD]

Bill JohnMKD

That sound has a somewhat sound of the Florina Western Macedonia area dont you think? Its interesting the different types of music and tones from different parts of Macedonia :rmacedonia

I honestly don't know, Makedonetz. My only experience with Macedonian music is from that area, ie. Lerin and Voden. And according to this you seem to be right; it sounds that it is from that region. However, are there many differences throughout the regions?

[Mastika]

The song is another crappy cover Payner/Planeta Music and the hot models/singers who apart from looking great have very little musical talent at all, in my opinion. They are no different than consumer products targeted at a sex hungry Bulgarian/Balkan market, and for this the Bulgarians now have a reputation for being the whores of the Balkans. if anything the song by Malina and Azis is influenced by Turkish music. As soon as I listened to the song i thought that i had heard it before, it is a popular Serbian song, however I cannot think of the name. BUT, i looked at the comments and apparently it was originally a Greek song, as is often the case.

Much of the stuff produced by Grand Music (Serbian, Pink Television) and Payner Music (Bulgarian, Televizija Planeta) is either copied from Turkish, Greek or other European music. People who listen to songs from a range of Balkan countries would soon realise how much the music industry recycles and reuses songs. It makes money, but it devalues the quality and diversity of the music in my opinion.

Good to see the young boy in the second video embracing music. Good for him.