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  • DraganOfStip
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    Malina Popivanova (Kocani, April 7, 1902 - Tjumen, USSR, 19 July 1954) - was a prominent Macedonian communist who spent her grown life in the USSR doing political tasks.
    During the Stalinist purges in the USSR she was incarcerated for a period of 2 years.Upon serving her sentence she continued living in USSR and worked as a history teacher at a local school.
    From Wikipedia:
    A November 28, 1963 decision of the Military Collegium of the Supreme Court of the USSR, she along with her father Stefan was politically rehabilitated and registered as Macedonian. This information was taken from a questionnaire that she filled out in 1932 when seeking papers from the Soviet Union, where in the "nationality" section she wrote - Macedonian.
    And where was Tito in 1932 to indoctrinate and create her "new" identity?

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  • George S.
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    thanks beh to you too.

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  • JJAskiz
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    Thanks beh.

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  • George S.
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    Well put JJaskizz that's good that you have proved that we aren't Bulgarian but we are Macedonian.

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  • JJAskiz
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    Proof that Macedonians from Republic Of Macedonia are not Bulgarian Tartars & are not from the Former Tartarstan Republic Of Bulgaria.

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    Proof Bulgarian Tartar's from the Former Tartarstan Republic Of Bulgaria are Tartar's from Tartarstan.

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  • JJAskiz
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    Proof Macedonians & Macedonia are not Greek & not part of Greece (Hell Ass) but are a different nation/race & country.

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    Proof Greeks from Greece (Hell Ass) are Turko-Albanian's.

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  • George S.
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    Amazing remark considering that people's nationalism is pretty low in estimation.

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  • vicsinad
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    From the book "Moje Uspomene" by Mihailo Markovic, 1906, pg. 316:

    I asked him if he was a Bulgarian? "I'm not." I asked him if he was a Serb, Greek, or perhaps even a Tsintsar. "No I am not. I am a Macedonian from Veles."

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  • vicsinad
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    From 1861, in the Serbian publication "Danica", on page 228:

    "What kind of philosopher? I am not Greek...I am Macedonian!"

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  • vicsinad
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    Originally posted by vicsinad View Post
    From a Croatian author in 1903 saying that Macedonians aren't Serbs or Bulgars.



    "Hrvatska misao: smotra za norodno gospodarstvo, knijiz̆evnost i ..., Volume 3"

    (I translated from Croatian to English the best I could without using google translate because I couldn't copy and paste the text, so it would have been too time consuming. Hopefully it's right.)

    This is on page 517:

    "I have talked a lot with Macedonians in Serbia, in Bulgaria and in the Diaspora, where there is the largest number. Many times I asked them what they are, Serb or Bulgar, where I got a large variety of answers.[...] Sometimes I would hear a Macedonian speaking Serbian saying "I am Bulgarian" and vice versa. That is very funny [...] but also very regretful because most Macedonians are neither Serb nor Bulgar, but just Macedonian."
    From the same book a couple pages later:

    "What are you reading?"
    "Macedonian songs, brother."
    He handed me the book -- they were folk songs, written in the Serbian, Macedonian and Bulgarian dialects...
    "But listen brother, here there are a lot of Serbian and Bulgarian songs," I told him.
    "They're not Bulgarian nor Serbian. These songs are ours and we are Macedonians -- therefore, Macedonian songs." Those were the words of my friend Veljko. I wanted to tell him that Macedonians are not a separate people, but in order to not cause a quarrel, I left it alone.

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  • George S.
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    W have to assert and reassert our identity as Macedonians.We shouldn't let others decide who we are..Our enemies are far and wide we call them our neighbours they only want to steal what is rightfully ours.Our existence is proof of who we are.

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  • vicsinad
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    From a Croatian author in 1903 saying that Macedonians aren't Serbs or Bulgars.



    "Hrvatska misao: smotra za norodno gospodarstvo, knijiz̆evnost i ..., Volume 3"

    (I translated from Croatian to English the best I could without using google translate because I couldn't copy and paste the text, so it would have been too time consuming. Hopefully it's right.)

    This is on page 517:

    "I have talked a lot with Macedonians in Serbia, in Bulgaria and in the Diaspora, where there is the largest number. Many times I asked them what they are, Serb or Bulgar, where I got a large variety of answers.[...] Sometimes I would hear a Macedonian speaking Serbian saying "I am Bulgarian" and vice versa. That is very funny [...] but also very regretful because most Macedonians are neither Serb nor Bulgar, but just Macedonian."

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  • TRAVOLTA
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    За Ватикан во Македонија живееле Македонци уште во 17 век

    Според документите од архивата на Ватикан во Македонија никогаш не живееле Бугари или Срби, туку Македонци. Од документот се гледа дека Ватикан во 1619 година давал стипендии на Македонците кои сакале да студираат.



    Голем број на документи во архивите на Ватикан претставуваат впечатливи и интересни сведоштва за Македонија и Македонците во периодот од 1622 до 1644 година, пишува весникот на Македонците во Грција „Нова зора"



    Светата столица во 1619 година доделувала стипендии на Македонците за да студираат на колеџот во Лорето (College of Loreto), основан во 1580 година. Во 1619 година епископ од Далмација бил задолжен од Папата Пол V да додели места на колеџот за Срби, Бугари и за Македонци.

    Во документите на тој колеџ до денес постојат пријавите во кои студентите од Македонија се запишувале како Македонци. Во 1620 година во Лорето студирале тројца Македонци кои добиле стипендија од Ватикан.

    google translate:

    Vatican: Macedonians lived in Macedonia since the 17th century

    According to documents from the Vatican archives in Macedonia never lived Bulgarians or Serbs, but Macedonian. The document shows that in 1619 the Vatican gave scholarships for Macedonians who wanted to study.


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    A number of documents in the Vatican archives are striking and interesting testimonies of Macedonia and Macedonians in the period from 1622 to 1644, the newspaper of the Macedonians in Greece "Nova Zora"

    Holy See in 1619 awarded scholarships for Macedonians to study in Loreto College (College of Loreto), founded in 1580. In 1619 Bishop of Dalmatia was in charge of Pope Paul V to assign seats College of Serbs, Bulgarians and Macedonians.

    The documents that the college today there are applications in which students from Macedonia are Macedonians interviewers. In 1620 studied in Loreto three Macedonians who received a scholarship from the Vatican.

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  • George S.
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    for years Macedonians have been treated as second citizens,i take back the word citizens.,the reason being that the Macedonians have not even basic human rights.There is far more to be said than meets the eye.

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  • DedoAleko
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    GORE GLAVATA - ETHNIK MACEDONIANS IN GREECE 2014 - YouTube

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