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![]() Although this will provide stability for a few months, this will not fix the problems in the long term. If DPMNE win (which they probably will), do we think that SDSM is going to respect that decision? Zaev & SDSM are pretty set on the goal of forming government.
The issues within Macedonia are entrenched within society. The whole political scene is just a byproduct of ethnic tensions and corruption. Macedonia needs to a systematic clean out, but that's never actually going to happen. I don't think any of us think that SDSM is going to be more or less corrupt than DPMNE so it's irrelevant whoever wins the elections. The same will continue until a new party is formed that can actually rid Macedonia of elements that are dangerous to unity. |
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![]() I hope the elctions aren't marred with violence.
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Both public and private organisations will always have elements of corruption - the world over. What I see as most rotten is the need for a Macedonian citizen to align with a political party in order to seek employment opportunities, or to retain existing employment. And further, this political membership seems to determine how investment is created, how planning is coordinated and how law and justice is administered. When Macedonia stops the 'which party are you from' controlling everyday life, then perhaps there is a future. |
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![]() I'm not sure how anyone benefits from this. I can't envision a SDSM win, so what happens a year from now after DPMNE wins again? Will the opposition accept the defeat and come back to parliament? Will they ask for another early election? How many elections need to happen for Macedonians to stop voting for the same two idiots. This is a big waist of time if you ask me, it just takes attention away from actual problems because everyone is in non stop campaign mode. Whats the point of having an election when it will be contested after 6 months and another one demanded.
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![]() The Constitutional Court with 5 votes to 4 enabled the President of Macedonia to be able to pardon election fraud convicts
![]() Now George Ivanov has all legal power to pardon Gordana Jankulovska,Mile Janakievski and the several other officials indicted for election fraud by the Special Prosecution. In other words, now a DPMNE member can pardon other DPMNE members for doing crime. Something similar happened in 2003 when then-president Boris Trajkovski pardoned Dosta Dimivska,the then-minister of interior and MOI official Aleksandar Cvetkov (all of them DPMNE members) for the "Big Ear" affair of 2001,when it was proved that the police wiretapped dozens of journalists and reporters (most of them later got reimbursed by the state in court). This only shows how deeply the judiciary in Macedonia is influenced by the ruling powers,making a decision like this just a couple of weeks after government officials were indicted of election fraud. Grujo protecting his own,lads (the long arm of DPMNE). http://kapital.mk/ustaven-odluchi-pr...eregularnosti/
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![]() These are the 5 judges that voted FOR this.
Quick sidenote: all of them are placed in the Constitutional Court during DPMNE's reign. ![]()
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![]() There were protests in front of the Constitutional Court later this day against the decision.
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The United Macedonian Diaspora also condemned this act,calling it "a big step backward for Macedonia and it's people": http://fokus.mk/omd-se-nadevame-deka...zborni-izmami/
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p.s. Not to forget the recording obtained LEGALY with police assistance where the current president of sds zz, as active mayor of Strumica municipality,asks for bribe. |
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