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If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams
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Originally posted by DirtyCodingHabitz View PostVangelovski is probably a big supporter of the greek macedonian negotiations. Vangelovski would also support if the Macedonian government agreed for the country to become 2 states, 1 for the albanians and 1 for the rest.If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams
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You should start quoting and answering people in 1 post.
Originally posted by Vangelovski View PostDCH, I have a feeling you will end up crying like the rest of the sooks on this forum.
Let's say that we are in 1912 and greeks start occupying Macedonia and replacing the Macedonian population with greeks. Would you accept any agreements that will split the country into 2 states? would you just let them kill Macedonians and treat them like animals? and would you support all of this just because greek history books say that Macedonia was once greek and now they have the right to occupy and resettle it?
Please answer the questions in 1 post
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Originally posted by DirtyCodingHabitz View PostYou should start quoting and answering people in 1 post.
I doubt that.
Let's say that we are in 1912 and greeks start occupying Macedonia and replacing the Macedonian population with greeks. Would you accept any agreements that will split the country into 2 states? would you just let them kill Macedonians and treat them like animals? and would you support all of this just because greek history books say that Macedonia was once greek and now they have the right to occupy and resettle it?
Please answer the questions in 1 post
What on earth does your rambling have to the with the Israeli-Palestinian issue and my comments in particular?If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams
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Originally posted by Vangelovski View PostEM, I agree that Kosovo poses a very real threat to Macedonia, and some of its other neighbours, but I do not agree that it is an existential threat.
In terms of wiping Macedonia off the map, probably not. But to annex western Macedonia to their 'Greater Albanian' dream could raise a lot of question marks in terms of Macedonia's future, and their capacity to continue existing as a nation.
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What on earth does your rambling have to the with the Israeli-Palestinian issue and my comments in particular?
greeks view us as a threat
greeks occupied Macedonian territory
greeks give us little to none human rights
greeks still treat us like shit and non-existent people
greeks still make violent attacks on us
jews view the Palestinians as a threat
jews occupied and still continue to occupy Palestinians territory
jews give them little to none human rights
jews still treat the Palestinians like animals and often say "Palestinians don't exist"
jews bombed and still attack Palestinian civilians
How can I not compare? they are in the same situation as we are and probably worse.
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Originally posted by DirtyCodingHabitz View PostYou support occupation of a nation, ethnic cleansing, and population replacement. But it would be good if you could answer my questions.
greeks view us as a threat
greeks occupied Macedonian territory
greeks give us little to none human rights
greeks still treat us like shit and non-existent people
greeks still make violent attacks on us
jews view the Palestinians as a threat
jews occupied and still continue to occupy Palestinians territory
jews give them little to none human rights
jews still treat the Palestinians like animals and often say "Palestinians don't exist"
jews bombed and still attack Palestinian civilians
How can I not compare? they are in the same situation as we are and probably worse.
You're idiotic presupposition that the Israeli's do not have a legitimate claim to Israel and that somehow the territory is Palestinian by default has no place outside of a Madrasas. Based on your comments, I think that I can safely assume that you actually believe that the Jew's arrived in Israel for the first time in the 20th century, that it was some sort of 'plot' to undermine the Muslim world and that the Palestinians have been there forever. If this is the case, you need serious medical attention, on par with Toby.If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams
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I think that I can safely assume that you actually believe that the Jew's arrived in Israel for the first time in the 20th century
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Originally posted by DirtyCodingHabitz View PostNo. But they also don't have the right ethnic cleans and kick out the Palestinians. Imagine if we get Pirin and Egej back, what would you do? kill and kick everyone out that's not Macedonian?If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams
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Originally posted by Vangelovski View PostDCH, where, other than in your incoherent mind, did anyone say they have the right to ethnically cleanse Palestinians?
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Originally posted by DirtyCodingHabitz View PostApparently no one is prosecuting them for their crimes against humanity. And they are the only nation on the planet(besides USA and NATO members) to get away with this type of right to kill who ever they like.If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams
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Originally posted by EgejskaMakedonia View PostThat's true, but the same was probably thought when Kosovo was a region of Serbia. Their very existence, backed by Albanians from Albania and those within Macedonia can pose a very realistic threat. Add America's support and who knows what could happen.
Originally posted by EgejskaMakedonia View PostIn terms of wiping Macedonia off the map, probably not. But to annex western Macedonia to their 'Greater Albanian' dream could raise a lot of question marks in terms of Macedonia's future, and their capacity to continue existing as a nation.If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams
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you may want to take a look at the war crimes and other gross human rights violations that individuals from the Palestinian side are responsible for
Our revolutionaries were terrorists to the enemies because they were fighting for our future. Same goes for Palestinian freedom fighters.
But one that kills to dominate another should be prosecuted. Unfortunately no one seems to be even raising the issue to prosecute the jewish leaders that are involved in the war crimes.
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Originally posted by DirtyCodingHabitz View PostBut far as I know they are fighting for their future.
Originally posted by DirtyCodingHabitz View PostOur revolutionaries were terrorists to the enemies because they were fighting for our future. Same goes for Palestinian freedom fighters.
A) Our revolutionaries never strapped bombs to them selves and walked into buses or Markets and annihilated innocent women or children.
B) Our revolutionaries never caused violent acts which were intended to create fear (terror), and deliberately target or disregard the safety of non-combatants (civilians).
When one fights armies, (especially invading ones) it can't be called a terrorist group.Last edited by Bill77; 02-19-2012, 10:25 AM.http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873
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the palestinians have allways been classed as terrorists & not as freedom fighters as they claim.I think the palestinians have gone beyond terrorism if we could say beyond & have used civilians armed with bombs on their person & killed indiscriminitely.THeir so called revolutinaris have caused not only acts of terror but violent acts unspeakable on the civilians.Examples are revenge attacks using civilians as shields & using prisoners as bargaining chips to get their way.They are not fighting for their future look at how many years this has continued.Tit for tat skirmishes,it is never ending.Death is a fact of life with so many people killed over the years one wonders will a peacefull solution ever be found.Or can they be made to sgn an agreement at the stroke of a pen.I don't think whils't you got armed resistance wil their be peace as neither side really wants it badly enough to put their diffrences aside."Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
GOTSE DELCEV
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