COVID-19 Pandemic

[kompir]

Considering the level of death we've already seen from the "vaccines", the WHO isn't long for this world.

If you know me personally, you would know this realisation is quite a leap in perspective.

What was your perspective say 12/24/36 months ago?

[Risto the Great]

24 months ago I couldn't make the connections above.
Now I feel the longer term agenda is beyond any doubt. I think the WHO is the perfect vehicle to springboard this treachery from.

[Risto the Great]

Twitter is a breath of fresh air lately. Let's see how long that lasts.

[Dove]

Baader-Meinhof phenomenon... => :

Too bad it is not the same for this COVID business.

Speaking of which what is your view of the many aspects of the COVID business, Phoenix? I would love to hear about it.

[Phoenix]

Too bad it is not the same for this COVID business.

Speaking of which what is your view of the many aspects of the COVID business, Phoenix? I would love to hear about it.

If you go back to the beginning of this thread you will find that I've been very skeptical regarding all things covid.

Covid has possibly been the most politicised, commercialised and bastardised public health issue in human history.

In early 2020 when the virus began its global spread we were told because it was so new we didn't know what to expect from it...this was total BS, virologists knew everything about covid within the first couple of months after its discovery.

We were being told ad nauseam that if we (i.e. everyone) got covid we were going to die...this was total BS...statistics are part of the science and the unfolding statistical trend of deaths showed a constant... the cohort that was at greatest risk from covid complications and death...that cohort comprised of the elderly, those in the population that are immunocompromised, have co-morbidities, diabetes and obesity were at greatest risk.
Conversely, populations that were younger and healthier were at least risk but this was never explained to people...everyone was treated in the one-size-fits-all basket of doom.

By this stage the politicians were weaponising covid for political gain.
Politics is a one trick pony...FEAR is a politicians greatest weapon, the truth is too often inconvenient and without reward.

Biden campaigned from his basement whilst triple masked sitting there alone...CNN ran the daily death counter every day on all of its programs to ram home the message that the virus was an existential threat to the US and only a Biden administration could save the USA.

Politicians all over the world watched the circus in the USA (and China re: lockdowns), they began employing teams of psychologists and behavioural experts to change peoples behaviour through the perception of FEAR.

In extreme circumstances people will accept a temporary 'suspension' of their freedom if you can convince them that it is for their own good.
Make it about life and death and you have peoples attention...the 2 weeks to flatten the curve sounded like a small price to pay but it lasted for 2 years for most people.

Lockdowns and social distancing became the new buzzwords, masks of all colours and shades became the new black...being muzzled became a fashion statement and yet there was NO SCIENCE to back up the efficacy of lockdowns...there was NO SCIENCE that determined the optimum social distancing, the studies into social distancing were half-arsed research from about 50 years ago and the efficacy of masking was the biggest lie of them all.

Masks were always about the optics and never about the control of infection...it was to perpetuate the cycle of FEAR to elicit behavioural change and conformity, the BS of "we are all in this together" and that our political leaders were keeping us safe, such as the 'I Stand With Dan' clowns (and bots) here in Victoria...meanwhile the political power grab became greedier, politicians having scared the crap out of people noticed that the more draconian their measures, the higher their approval rating rose...it had nothing to do with infection control. Here in Victoria we were in successive snap lockdowns after only a couple of dozen positive cases were discovered.

Lockdowns were a bonanza for Big Tech and the online retailers...we were hostages in our own homes...the Federal Government foot the bill to pay people to stay at home, often they were given more money than what they usually earned doing their jobs and that money was spent on entertainment like online streaming services, social media such as Facebook and Twitter and online shopping through Amazon...etc

No wonder the Big Tech oligarchs like Zuckerberg, Dorsey, Pichai and online traders like Bozos were such fervent supporters of lockdowns and so critical and censoring of lockdown dissent...they have made a fortune from people being locked at home and bored and scared shitless.

And then there's Big Pharma's snout in the trough, aided and abetted by government overreach and the ensuing erosion of liberties and turning citizens into hostages of the state with vaccine mandates and passports.

As for the vaccines:

I despise vaccine mandates
I don't believe the vaccines offer genuine protection
I don't think the vaccines have been adequately and safely tested
I am horrified at the eagerness of parents vaccinating their young children
I am horrified at (young) healthy adults pushing to the front of the queue to get their 3rd doses and those eager to get a 4th dose.

The whole covid thing has been a shit-show...from very early I called it the pandemic of stupidity...it has highlighted the very worst of human behaviour and stupidity - from the hoarding of toilet paper, to mask fetishism...from the blatant opportunism of politicians, the insatiable greed of the mega rich to the cowardice and lack of compassion of some of our health professionals who refused to see patients face-to-face, or who insisted that patients die alone.

[kompir]

The spicy cough saga will go down as the single biggest crime committed against humanity of all time. Something that was rushed in for expediency to provide cover for the MIC was taken advantage of by every scumbag organisation in the power food chain in the worst possible manner.

EVERYONE INVOLVED NEEDS TO SWING FOR THEIR PART IN THIS CRIME.

[Risto the Great]

Oh look, ATAGI suggests increasing the interval between doses of Moderna and Pfizer might reduce the risk of myocarditis and pericarditis. Sounds like an admission to me. Don't forget, this is mandatory for many people in the world.

https://www.health.gov.au/news/atagi-update-following-weekly-covid-19-meeting-27-april-2022

[Dove]

If you go back to the beginning of this thread you will find that I've been very skeptical regarding all things covid...
The whole covid thing has been a shit-show...from very early I called it the pandemic of stupidity...it has highlighted the very worst of human behaviour and stupidity - from the hoarding of toilet paper, to mask fetishism...from the blatant opportunism of politicians, the insatiable greed of the mega rich to the cowardice and lack of compassion of some of our health professionals who refused to see patients face-to-face, or who insisted that patients die alone.

Well articulated and well done for understanding it wasn't what they said. I went back and had a look at the early posts and you certainly were skeptical at the very least. Personally, even though I sensed something was wrong I regrettably fell for the scam and modified my miserable existence accordingly.

However, I knew that mandatory shots were wrong and I am disappointed that all but a few went along with it. It just sticks in my throat that the rotten government got away with that.

Do you remember what alerted you, that it wasn't as big a deal as they were making out at the beginning? What is your recollection of your reaction when this first became an issue?

[Dove]

Hey SoM - What is the story? I went back and read the early posts and found that some posts are missing.

Here is one piece of written evidence from post 41

Originally Posted by nushevski77 View Post
I heard that the virus can't sustain it's self at 27 degrees Celsius
European temperatures in Italy, Germany, England and Spain for example seem to average around 23-25 degrees in the summer.

This is also an unknown what will happen with the virus in the warmer months.

Nushevski's post is not there.

Also, I remember comments that were made that are now gone.

We're not being censored are we?

[Risto the Great]

Hey SoM - What is the story? I went back and read the early posts and found that some posts are missing.

Here is one piece of written evidence from post 41

Nushevski's post is not there.

Also, I remember comments that were made that are now gone.

We're not being censored are we?

You will see zero posts from Nushevski77 on this forum. SoM might have cleaned it out of the thread, but Nushevski77 possibly deleted the content himself (or was banned). Can't even remember. You can search for the user and read that nothing from him exists on this forum.

SoM only censors my comments when I am particularly cruel to him. He doesn't possess any wit and it sends him into a complete emotional breakdown when this happens. In this instance, I would say he would have had little or nothing to with the missing Nushevski posts.

But I have never trusted him and think that maybe he is a Greek running this forum to spy on us. I told him that when I saw him a few weeks ago.

[kompir]

But I have never trusted him and think that maybe he is a Greek running this forum to spy on us. I told him that when I saw him a few weeks ago.

Was he slapping himself по петици?

[Karposh]

If you go back to the beginning of this thread you will find that I've been very skeptical regarding all things covid.

Covid has possibly been the most politicised, commercialised and bastardised public health issue in human history.

In early 2020 when the virus began its global spread we were told because it was so new we didn't know what to expect from it...this was total BS, virologists knew everything about covid within the first couple of months after its discovery.

We were being told ad nauseam that if we (i.e. everyone) got covid we were going to die...this was total BS...statistics are part of the science and the unfolding statistical trend of deaths showed a constant... the cohort that was at greatest risk from covid complications and death...that cohort comprised of the elderly, those in the population that are immunocompromised, have co-morbidities, diabetes and obesity were at greatest risk.
Conversely, populations that were younger and healthier were at least risk but this was never explained to people...everyone was treated in the one-size-fits-all basket of doom.

By this stage the politicians were weaponising covid for political gain.
Politics is a one trick pony...FEAR is a politicians greatest weapon, the truth is too often inconvenient and without reward.

Biden campaigned from his basement whilst triple masked sitting there alone...CNN ran the daily death counter every day on all of its programs to ram home the message that the virus was an existential threat to the US and only a Biden administration could save the USA.

Politicians all over the world watched the circus in the USA (and China re: lockdowns), they began employing teams of psychologists and behavioural experts to change peoples behaviour through the perception of FEAR.

In extreme circumstances people will accept a temporary 'suspension' of their freedom if you can convince them that it is for their own good.
Make it about life and death and you have peoples attention...the 2 weeks to flatten the curve sounded like a small price to pay but it lasted for 2 years for most people.

Lockdowns and social distancing became the new buzzwords, masks of all colours and shades became the new black...being muzzled became a fashion statement and yet there was NO SCIENCE to back up the efficacy of lockdowns...there was NO SCIENCE that determined the optimum social distancing, the studies into social distancing were half-arsed research from about 50 years ago and the efficacy of masking was the biggest lie of them all.

Masks were always about the optics and never about the control of infection...it was to perpetuate the cycle of FEAR to elicit behavioural change and conformity, the BS of "we are all in this together" and that our political leaders were keeping us safe, such as the 'I Stand With Dan' clowns (and bots) here in Victoria...meanwhile the political power grab became greedier, politicians having scared the crap out of people noticed that the more draconian their measures, the higher their approval rating rose...it had nothing to do with infection control. Here in Victoria we were in successive snap lockdowns after only a couple of dozen positive cases were discovered.

Lockdowns were a bonanza for Big Tech and the online retailers...we were hostages in our own homes...the Federal Government foot the bill to pay people to stay at home, often they were given more money than what they usually earned doing their jobs and that money was spent on entertainment like online streaming services, social media such as Facebook and Twitter and online shopping through Amazon...etc

No wonder the Big Tech oligarchs like Zuckerberg, Dorsey, Pichai and online traders like Bozos were such fervent supporters of lockdowns and so critical and censoring of lockdown dissent...they have made a fortune from people being locked at home and bored and scared shitless.

And then there's Big Pharma's snout in the trough, aided and abetted by government overreach and the ensuing erosion of liberties and turning citizens into hostages of the state with vaccine mandates and passports.

As for the vaccines:

I despise vaccine mandates
I don't believe the vaccines offer genuine protection
I don't think the vaccines have been adequately and safely tested
I am horrified at the eagerness of parents vaccinating their young children
I am horrified at (young) healthy adults pushing to the front of the queue to get their 3rd doses and those eager to get a 4th dose.

The whole covid thing has been a shit-show...from very early I called it the pandemic of stupidity...it has highlighted the very worst of human behaviour and stupidity - from the hoarding of toilet paper, to mask fetishism...from the blatant opportunism of politicians, the insatiable greed of the mega rich to the cowardice and lack of compassion of some of our health professionals who refused to see patients face-to-face, or who insisted that patients die alone.

That was really good Phoenix, I enjoyed that. Very nicely put. Common sense arguments through and through - something that's been missing from the world for over two years. I'm still not allowed to go back to work because I'm not vaccinated so I'm still stuck working from home which, if I'm being honest, isn't all that bad I suppose. I usually have a mid-day siesta before I start my afternoon shift, after which I am feeling all refreshed and rested, thereby making me more productive. I couldn't do that if I was in the office so it does have its silver lining.

Funny how everyone seems to have forgotten about the virus in the last few months. It's almost like it never existed. No more Supermarket staff acting like overzealous sheriffs and refusing entry to anyone who doesn't check-in first, no-more standing on allocated green dots when waiting in a queue, no more being denied entry to weddings or Christenings because you don't have a valid vaccine passport, etc. Yet, despite all these wonderful new freedoms, I'm still seeing people walking around with masks on, some even late at night while walking alone. Some habits die hard I guess. What's even funnier is that most of the people with the short memory span who have recently forgotten all about the virus were the same ones who had completely lost their minds over the last two years and had become totally overwhelmed by unreasonable hysteria, shouting down and abusing anyone with an opposing view, especially with regard to mask mandates.

[Phoenix]

...Do you remember what alerted you, that it wasn't as big a deal as they were making out at the beginning? What is your recollection of your reaction when this first became an issue?

From the outset, the data regarding deaths appeared to be very consistent in terms of the demographic that was at greatest risk from covid.`

Remember in the very early days here in Australia our covid tally was mostly made up of cruise-ship passengers - the demographic was elderly passengers.
Cruise-Ships are a confined space for their passengers and crew whilst at sea and act like incubators for viruses and yet on all ships all over the world the crew is very age diverse but younger crew members never seemed to be dying in the numbers that affected the elderly.

A similar tragedy began playing out in the aged-care facilities in Australia, once again age diverse people work in these facilities but those that were dying were the elderly, not the young nurse, or the young cleaner etc.

At this early stage in the scamdemic, do you recall the focus on places like Milan Italy and how they were facing this health catastrophe, the MSM and social media were full of stories of medical staff dying en masse and the population being decimated by covid...once again it was the elderly that suffered greatly, the combination of old age and a population of heavy smokers.

Then we started to develop a clearer picture of the dangers of old age (particularly 70+) plus co-morbidiites (very prevalent in older populations)

As the data began to come in from all over the world it became ever clearer that covid had its greatest impact on the elderly, exactly the same cohort that is at greatest risk from the flu each year.

Then things became much murkier with the - did he die WITH covid or FROM covid argument that ultimately distorted the facts and covid became unusually politicised, particularly in the USA and then here in Australia.

The rabid fervour for masking was another red flag, here in Victoria the Chairman was encouraging people to cover up with ANYTHING including bandanas which is an idea totally bereft of sanity and science.

When you start arresting people because they're sitting on a park bench drinking a coffee without a mask, or if you're shooting rubber bullets at peaceful protesters at the Shrine of Remembrance - its time to call bullshit on the whole sorry saga.

[Dove]

From the outset, the data regarding deaths appeared to be very consistent in terms of the demographic that was at greatest risk from covid...When you start arresting people because they're sitting on a park bench drinking a coffee without a mask, or if you're shooting rubber bullets at peaceful protesters at the Shrine of Remembrance - its time to call bullshit on the whole sorry saga.

Good on you Phoenix it is good to go back and see things differently. They got me with that Italian B.S. and those fake death numbers and that World'o'meter from John Hopkins university or whatever. My Chinese acquaintance did not help with all the info sharing either.

It is nice to be free of it (COVIDmania) and see it for the farce that it is.

[Dove]

You will see zero posts from Nushevski77 on this forum. SoM might have cleaned it out of the thread, but Nushevski77 possibly deleted the content himself (or was banned). Can't even remember. You can search for the user and read that nothing from him exists on this forum.

SoM only censors my comments when I am particularly cruel to him. He doesn't possess any wit and it sends him into a complete emotional breakdown when this happens. In this instance, I would say he would have had little or nothing to with the missing Nushevski posts.

But I have never trusted him and think that maybe he is a Greek running this forum to spy on us. I told him that when I saw him a few weeks ago.

I needed a good laugh but that is an outrageous thing to write.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction with the Nushevski missing posts. I found the other COVID info I remembered in the General News and Developments thread.

Nushevski was a young guy studying accountancy in Canada, and learning about his Macedonian heritage here. He was going to visit the homeland before they instituted the COVID fraud. It is hard to understand why he would delete his own comments. Also, I don't remember him saying anything bad that anyone else should want deleted either.