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  • Soldier of Macedon
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    Originally posted by Liberator of Makedonija View Post
    Just want to put it out there that Hitler wanted to create an independent Macedonian state during WWII
    By putting 'it out there' are you suggesting that Trump is like Hitler?

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  • Liberator of Makedonija
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    Just want to put it out there that Hitler wanted to create an independent Macedonian state during WWII

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  • iceman
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    Whats the matter Dragan of Shiptari and SDSM

    Originally posted by DraganOfStip View Post
    Ah, and THERE'S the inevitable part where Kurir "accidentally" embeds the Grujovist pre-electoral political propaganda in an article originally intended to be about Trump and Macedonia's constitutional name. Great to see the "journalists" at Kurir not losing their touch and working on full throttle in times when the party needs them the most.
    Leaving that aside, it would be great if the rest of the article is true.
    Then again I wouldn't be surprised if this interview never took place at all...
    whats the matter Dragan of Shiptari and SDSM ... uncle Zaev loosing ..not happy that the Shiptar language is not becoming an official second language of Macedonia ?? Hey Dragan of Traitors and Morons... What Dragan of imbeciles not happy that Macedonia cannot be carved up into a federalized country.. and then become a greater Albania.. What did you say Dragan of Propaganda ??? Not happy that your uncle Zaev has been shown to be a treacherous dog.. Can someone on this site please send Dragan of Shiptari a tissue .. care of Republic of Greater Albania and Treacherous.. Post office Box .. Just send it to Republic of Macedonia at any SDSM office

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  • DraganOfStip
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    Originally posted by iceman View Post
    Regarding the upcoming parliamentary elections in Macedonia, scheduled for December 11, Burns stated that expected VMRO-DPMNE to get back the mandate to form a new government.

    - Mr. Trump is familiar with the work of Mr. Gruevski and gives his full support for all that he does for the Macedonian people. We expect to receive again the mandate of the people in the upcoming elections in December because we feel that Nikola Gruevski will continue with the same commitment to have been made for better economic development and security of the state, says Mark Barnes.

    Asked about foreign investments in Macedonia, including both US companies "Johnson Controls" and "Johnson Matthey", as well as 5th in the world in the report "Doing Business", Burns stated that Gruevski is committed to economic growth the state and hoped to continue to lead the Macedonian people to a better future.
    Ah, and THERE'S the inevitable part where Kurir "accidentally" embeds the Grujovist pre-electoral political propaganda in an article originally intended to be about Trump and Macedonia's constitutional name. Great to see the "journalists" at Kurir not losing their touch and working on full throttle in times when the party needs them the most.
    Leaving that aside, it would be great if the rest of the article is true.
    Then again I wouldn't be surprised if this interview never took place at all...
    Last edited by DraganOfStip; 11-13-2016, 05:47 PM.

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  • Soldier of Macedon
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    Well, that is encouraging.

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  • iceman
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    Trump Administration: I will not allow Macedonia's name to change !

    (google translate used )

    MACEDONIA NEWS
    Mark Burns: Trump will not allow changing the name Republic of Macedonia

    United States after the election of the new president, Donald Trump will continue to build the path of good cooperation with Macedonia, said Mark Burns, an adviser to US President-elect Donald Trump.

    November 12, 201611:15
    mark-burns
    In an interview with "Voice of the People", the spiritual adviser to US President-elect emphasized that no one should change its constitutional name and identity of the country.

    - About the question which refers to the name of your country, which want to change and stop your name and name as Macedonians, it is unheard of in world history, it is forbidden to change its name and identity because you Macedonians are born and continue to live and are called so, Burns said.

    It is unfair, Burns added, the Greeks in the United States give millions of dollars to the Democratic Party only to flatter and make you change your name.

    - Be sure that with the appointment of Trump for president, will not it happen that will change the name of your country of Macedonia. I guarantee that by choosing the Trump for president, every initiative led by the Democratic Party of the United States and democratic governance will be immediately halted. It refers to the name change of state of the Republic of Macedonia, stated Burns.

    Regarding the upcoming parliamentary elections in Macedonia, scheduled for December 11, Burns stated that expected VMRO-DPMNE to get back the mandate to form a new government.

    - Mr. Trump is familiar with the work of Mr. Gruevski and gives his full support for all that he does for the Macedonian people. We expect to receive again the mandate of the people in the upcoming elections in December because we feel that Nikola Gruevski will continue with the same commitment to have been made for better economic development and security of the state, says Mark Barnes.

    Asked about foreign investments in Macedonia, including both US companies "Johnson Controls" and "Johnson Matthey", as well as 5th in the world in the report "Doing Business", Burns stated that Gruevski is committed to economic growth the state and hoped to continue to lead the Macedonian people to a better future.

    In an interview with Barnes talked about further relations with Russia, which it says top priority noviizbraniot American president will be to bring stability and unity in the world.

    - Trump wants to bring peace and stability in the world. Instead of chaos, to bring stability and unity, and it will be a top priority. As human beings, regardless of race, color, political affiliation, should all support each other and make the world a better and it's one of the main priorities of Trump, says Burns.

    He adds that it is true that US President-elect is not religious, but in terms of attacks on corruption, says Trump is very rich and there is no need for further enrichment.

    - He loves America and believes that the United States should work together to embrace the values that have been lost in the past, said Burns.


    МАКЕДОНИЈАВЕСТИ
    Марк Барнс: Трамп нема да дозволи промена на името Република Македонија

    САД по изборот на новиот претседател Доналд Трамп ќе продолжат да го градат патот на добрата соработка со Македонија, вели Марк Барнс, советник на новоизбраниот американски претседател Доналд Трамп.

    12 Ноември 201611:15
    mark-burns
    Во интервју за програмата „Гласот на народот“, овој духовен советник на новоизбраниот американски претседател истакнува дека никој не смее да го смени уставното име и идентитетот на Република Македонија.

    – Околу прашањето коешто се однесува за името на вашата земја, коешто сакаат да ви го сменат и да престанете да се викате и именувате како Македонци, што пак е нечуено во светската историја, никој не смее да ви го смени името и идентитетот затоа што вие сте родени како Македонци и ќе продолжете да живеете и да се именувате така, вели Барнс.

    Многу е нечесно, додава Барнс, што Грците во САД даваат милиони долари за Демократската партија само за да и се додворуваат и да ве натераат да го смените името.

    – Бидете сигурни дека сега со именувањето на Трамп за претседател на САД, нема тоа да се случи, односно нема да се смени името на вашата земја Македонија. Гарантирам дека со изборот на Трамп за претседател на САД, секоја иницијатива предводена од Демократската партија на САД и демократското владеење веднаш ќе биде запрено. Тоа се однесува и за промената на името на државата Република Македонија, потенцира Барнс.

    Во однос на претстојните парламентарни избори во Македонија закажани за 11 декември, Барнс со став дека очекува лидерот на ВМРО-ДПМНЕ да го добие повторно мандатот за формирање на нова влада.

    – Господинот Трамп е запознаен со работата на господинот Груевски и му ја дава неговата целосна поддршка за сето она што тој го прави за македонскиот народ. Очекуваме да го добие повторно мандатот од народот на престојните избори во декември, бидејќи сметаме дека Никола Груевски ќе продолжи со истата ангажираност што досега ја правеше за подобар економски развој и за безбедноста на државата, оценува Марк Барнс.

    Запрашан за странските инвестиции во Македонија, меѓу кои се и двете американски компании „Џонсон Контролс“ и „Џонсон Мети“, како и за 5-то место во светот во извештајот „Дуинг бизнис“, Барнс со став дека Груевски се залага за економски раст на државата и оти се надева дека ќе продолжи да го води македонскиот народ кон подобра иднина.

    Во интервјуто Барнс говори и за понатамошните односи со Русија за кои вели дека врвен приоритет на новиизбраниот американски претседател ќе биде да донесе стабилност и единство во светот.

    – Трамп сака да донесе мир и стабилност во светот. Наместо хаос, да донесе стабилност и единство и и тоа ќе биде врвен приоритет. Како човечки суштества, без разлика на расата, бојата и политичката припадност, сите заедно треба да се поддржуваме и светот да стане подобар, а тоа е еден од најглавните приоритети на Трамп, истакнува Барнс.

    Тој додава дека не е точно оти новоизбраниот американски претседател не е религиозен, а во однос на нападите за корупција, вели дека Трамп е многу богат и оти нема потреба од натамошно богатење.

    – Тој ја сака Америка и верува дека во САД треба заедно да ги вратиме вредностите кои се изгубени во минатото, вели Барнс.

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  • vicsinad
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    It's ironic that Trump was against the Electoral College, saying that it should be abandoned, and then that's what got him into office, not the popular vote.

    It's still possible that the Electoral College voters can vote against Trump as they have yet to vote. That would throw even more chaos into the picture.

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  • vicsinad
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    This divide runs deep on many different sides of the political and social spectrum. This election and the result has brought out, and will continue to bring out, the worst in people. This will surely indeed be a roller-coaster ride for American society and the world.

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  • Philosopher
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    STAFFORD, Texas (FOX 26) - A student at Stafford Elementary is recovering Wednesday after being beaten by several of his classmates.

    He says it was during a mock election when the class was asked, “Who voted for Donald Trump?”

    In an exclusive interview with FOX 26, the 11-year-old boy involved and his family tell us what happened.

    “This is America,” said Mary Lemmon, the mother of the student beaten. “Everyone has the right to their own opinion, and they shouldn’t be beat up for it.”

    But just a day after Donald Trump was elected President, that’s exactly what happened to her son at Stafford Elementary School.

    “These boys decided to ask the classroom, ‘Who voted for Donald Trump?’ And then I said, ‘I did.’ And then they come over here and jerked me out of my seat,” said the student. “Before I could get up they started kicking me and punching me.”

    The student’s name was protected by request of his parents. But he told us the classroom did have a teacher present. He said when he was on the ground, it “felt like it was forever”.

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  • Philosopher
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    Twitter erupts with calls to assassinate Donald Trump.

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  • Philosopher
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    SHOCK VIDEO: Black Mob Beats White Trump Supporter, 'You Voted Trump! You Gonna Pay For That Sh*t!'

    Shock video shows mob beat Trump supporter, steal his car and drag him through street.

    Chris Menahan

    Shock video out of Chicago shows a mob of African-American youth beat a white Trump supporter because he "voted Trump," telling him "you gonna pay for that sh*t."

    The mob is seen robbing the man of his belongings, stealing his car and then dragging him through the street while his hand is stuck in the window of his own vehicle.

    YouTube incredibly deleted evidence of this hate crime, fortunately it was saved and uploaded to other sites.

    In this first version which contains audio, you can hear the criminal assailants screaming "you voted Donald Trump" while multiple thugs are seen savagely beating the man from every which angle.

    "You voted Trump," the mob can be heard screaming. "You gonna pay for that sh*t."

    "Beat his ass," a woman shouts. "Don't vote Trump," another man says while laughing.
    Shock video out of Chicago shows a mob of African-American youth beat a white Trump supporter because he 'voted Trump,' telling him 'you gonna pay for that sh*t

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  • Philosopher
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    WOODSIDE — Racially driven animus over the presidential election jarred the usually serene Woodside High School campus with video spreading of a violent attack on a student who voiced support for Donald Trump.

    Within 24 hours, as the student was home recovering, much of the campus walked out of class and gathered in the quad to vent their myriad feelings about the new political atmosphere taking shape in the country.

    “It’s hard because we’re at a diverse school, and (nationally) it feels like we’re going back in time,” said senior Alexa Suchite, 18.

    Her feelings were heightened by fervor over an Instagram post by sophomore Jade Armenio on Tuesday night that some students interpreted as a racial attack.

    Courtesy ABC7 Jade Armenio, left, describes how she was attacked by a fellow student at Woodside High School on Wednesday, Nov. 9, 2016 on after it was learned that Armenio had posted on social media in support of Donald Trump's victory in the Presidential election Tuesday evening. To the right is Armenio’s mother, Gina Armenio.
    (Courtesy ABC7) Jade Armenio, left, describes how she was attacked by a fellow student at Woodside High School on Wednesday, Nov. 9, 2016 on after it was learned that Armenio had posted on social media in support of Donald Trump’s victory in the Presidential election Tuesday evening. To the right is Armenio’s mother, Gina Armenio.

    A partially obscured image of the social media post obtained by this newspaper shows a sequence in which a comment disparaging Mexicans was followed by Jade writing, “one of the few things we can agree on.”

    Jade’s father, Todd Armenio, contends that her response was to the original post, which expressed a pro-Trump sentiment.

    “She would never do that. We don’t raise our kids like that,” Todd Armenio said, referring to the idea of his daughter made racist remarks.

    But the order of the comments was taken by some students as an endorsement of the disparaging comment. That apparently caught Jade by surprise when she was on campus Wednesday.

    “This girl comes up to me and she said, ‘Do you hate Mexicans?’ and I was like, ‘no,’ and she said, ‘You support Trump. You hate Mexicans,’ ” she said in an interview with KGO-TV.

    Not long after, the girl removed her eyeglasses and punched Jade, threw her to the ground and continued hitting her, according to multiple student cellphone videos obtained by this newspaper. Jade was left with a bloody nose, scratches and bruises.
    Racially-driven animus over the presidential election swiftly trickled into the usually serene Woodside High School campus with video spreading of a violent attack on a student who supported Donald…

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  • Philosopher
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    LAFAYETTE, La. (KLFY) – A University of Louisiana Lafayette student who said she was physically attacked and robbed of her wallet and hijab made up the story, according to the Lafayette Police Department.

    Public Information Officer Karl Ratcliff said police are charging the 18-year-old student with filing a false police report.

    The young woman filed a police report Wednesday claiming two white males approached her near the campus, in the 100 block of Smith Street, around 11 a.m.

    She also claimed one of the males was wearing a “Trump” hat and they both yelled racial obscenities at her, police said.

    As police began to investigate the student’s claims they did not locate any witnesses or surveillance video to corroborate her story.
    A University of Louisiana Lafayette student who said she was physically attacked and robbed of her wallet and hijab made up the story,

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  • vicsinad
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    Just like the right / VMRO in Macedonia called all the anti-government protestors "Soros funded" and paid professionals, Trump and his supporters are saying the same thing about last nights protests and riots. The people had a choice between a fascist and a war monger, and they chose the fascist. Making the country think that there is no genuine popular opposition to him by saying that these protestors are all paid is very dangerous. And targeting the media for everything -- this is textbook.

    Trump himself fired back late Thursday, tweeting: "Just had a very open and successful presidential election. Now professional protesters, incited by the media, are protesting. Very unfair!"
    Rumors have also been circulating that the new batch of anti-Trump protesters has been bankrolled by individuals like billionaire liberal activist George Soros and groups like Moveon.org.




    With tens of thousands of people taking to the streets to protest Donald Trump’s presidential election victory, questions are swirling about whether the anger is as organic as advertised.

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  • Philosopher
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    Global Elites Are Getting Ready To Blame You For The Coming Financial Crash

    by Brandon Smith

    Those people that have any doubts about where the narrative is headed for global economic stability simply have not been paying attention lately.

    As I pointed out in my pre-Brexit referendum article, Brexit: Global Trigger Event, Fake Out Or Something Else?, the story being scripted by the globalists is one of the “failures and crimes” of conservative movements. I predicted that the Brexit would pass based on this language used by international financiers and elites leading up to the vote.

    The vast majority of analysts in the mainstream and in the alternative media refused to acknowledge the possibility that a successful Brexit actually works in FAVOR of the globalists, because it provides them a perfect scapegoat for a financial crisis that has been broiling for years and is now ready to burst into flames. I find still that many people will not dare to consider the idea that a successful conservative resurgence is actually part of the plan for globalist institutions. Many argue that the elites just don’t have that kind of pervasive control over the system, or that I am attributing “too much power and ability” to them.

    I find this argument rather naive but also interesting, because many of the people that claim the elites do not have such influence were also the same people that argued before the Brexit that the elites would “never allow” the U.K. referendum to pass. So, do they have extensive influence, or don’t they? This kind of selective blindness to the game being played prevents a whole host of otherwise intelligent people from grasping reality.

    These folks need to finally admit to themselves that they were half right; the globalists would not allow the passage of the Brexit, UNLESS, a successful Brexit actually works in their favor.

    In my post-Brexit analysis I said that the meme of bumbling and destructive conservatives and “populists” would continue into the U.S. election, and so far it would seem this is exactly the case. In numerous mainstream articles globalists have been openly telling us exactly what is about to happen.

    I find that the same naivety that developed during the Brexit campaign has also developed around the Trump campaign. Too many in the liberty movement will not entertain the idea that a Trump win is in the cards. Yet, the elites are using the same language in reference to the Trump campaign that they used before and after the Brexit.

    Bloomberg’s latest report on the annual meetings of the IMF and World Bank showcase numerous warnings by the elites:

    “The global economy has benefited tremendously from globalization and technological change,” the IMF’s top advisory panel said in a communique released on Saturday after meeting in Washington. “However, the outlook is increasingly threatened by inward-looking policies, including protectionism, and stalled reforms.”

    “The IMF warned in its latest economic outlook that rising political tensions over open markets and free trade could undermine a recovery already lacking a growth engine.”

    “In a rebuke to those advocating a turn away from trade, the members of the IMF panel redoubled their commitment to “maintain economic openness and reinvigorate global trade as a critical means to boost global growth.”

    Barron’s reiterates the predictive programming, insinuating that a loss of faith in globalism and the financial elites will lead to disaster.

    “Leaders gathered at the International Monetary Fund/World Bank annual meeting didn’t mention Donald Trump by name this week, but they warned the anti-trade and populist movements fueling his presidential campaign, as well as Brexit, could further slow already anemic economic growth.”

    “…Populist movements have not fallen on deaf ears, with German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble noting during a panel on the global economy that: “More and more, people don’t trust their elites. They don’t trust their economic leaders, and they don’t trust their political leaders.”

    Globalists are telling us what is about to happen.

    I continue to hold to the position I always have — that Donald Trump is going to be ALLOWED into the White House, and that this will be a prelude to economic crisis. The stage is being set for a grand finale to our ongoing financial collapse. The great villain behind the whole disaster will be revealed, and we will be told that the villain is us.

    By “us” I mean conservative movements in general, though, the mainstream media and globalist spokesmen refer to us more often today as “populists”, or maybe “deplorables”. Those people who think this brand of “conspiracy” is too far fetched because it requires an inordinate level of political and economic control have not really thought the situation through.

    Fact – central banks and international financiers have already created the conditions necessary for economic instability. Fact – these same elites have staved off a larger or more immediate collapse over the past eight years through the use of fiat stimulus measures, market rigging and the manipulation of public perception. Fact – the elites can easily initiate an immediate collapse if they wish by simply refusing to prop up the system any longer. Fact – the elites have showcased the ability to stifle conservative movements in the past through interference and co-option (Tea Party, anyone?). Fact – they can also give conservative movements an opportunity to gain momentum by removing some of this interference.

    The truth is, at this point globalists do not need expansive or intricate control over the system in order to cause a crisis or to place conservatives in the historical hot seat. All they have to do is step aside and let the train wreck happen. And, of course, they have to position themselves as prognosticators and saviors once the crisis event occurs.

    The argument also arises that “people would never take the bait;” that the masses will not be fooled by the banking cabal into scapegoating conservatives for a crash the elites created. One can only hope. However, possession is nine-tenths of the law in the minds of many, and the mainstream has already conditioned the public with the notion that the mere presence of anti-globalist conservatives in positions of political authority will negatively affect market psychology.

    Of course, this notion relies on the admission of certain truths. For example, the globalists would have to admit that the fiscal system they have held together is so tenuous and fraudulent that it depends solely on false public perception and false investor assumptions. In order to blame conservatives for the destruction of the global economy, the elites will have to tell the truth about the frailty of the system before they can lie about who broke it.

    This may not matter. When people are facing national or international calamity with the potential to hurt them personally, critical thinking and logic tend to go out the window.

    There is also the power of distraction to occupy the minds of the masses while a crisis is taking shape, and what could be more distracting than the Trump vs. Clinton U.S. election? I have to say, I don’t think I have ever witnessed or seen a historical accounting of an election more psychotic than the election of 2016. It is truly the most divisive event in over a century, and this is why I consistently compare it to the Brexit referendum.

    The tone is very much the same, with citizens on the Left side of the political spectrum being lured into rallying in support of globalism as if it is a prerequisite to peace and harmony, while citizens on the Right side of the spectrum are portrayed as knuckle dragging isolationist barbarians hell-bent on urinating in the punch bowl and ruining everyone’s global prosperity party.

    Brexit supporters were painted as older, selfish, potentially racist and out of touch with the changing times. Brexit opponents were painted as young, educated and victimized by older generations taking away the supposed future benefits of globalism.

    Trump supporters are labeled as older, mostly white-centric, uneducated and fearful of the changing times. They just “don’t get” that it’s 2016. Trump opponents are elevated as the academic and worldly class battling to prevent another Hitler.

    During the lead up to the U.K. referendum, polls indicated a wide margin in favor of the anti-Brexit crowd and the assumption by almost everyone was that the Brexit would fail.

    The lead up to the U.S. election is also rife with polls indicating in most cases a margin of victory for Clinton over Trump. Of course, only a complete idiot would take polling numbers seriously in light of what happened during the Brexit.

    The Brexit campaign witnessed what appeared to some to be an unrecoverable black swan event – the killing of British MP Jo Cox. Almost everyone claimed that the murder of Cox by an apparently pro-Brexit assailant meant that the Brexit was doomed (I actually argued that the murder would be forgotten in a week and that the Brexit would pass anyway).

    The Trump campaign has witnessed its own kind of “black swan” event with the release of recordings from eleven years ago in which Trump is heard making “lewd remarks” about women. It is surprising to me how many conservatives (let alone liberals) have been declaring Trump’s candidacy effectively “over” due to the scandal. These people are dupes.

    Once again, I argue that the Trump tapes will be forgotten in a week and that they have no bearing whatsoever on the election. They are nothing more than bread and circus. Beyond the fact that really, almost no one cares what Trump said a decade ago, I argue that this election has already been decided. I argue that the globalists want Trump in office, just as they wanted the passage of the Brexit. I argue that they need conservative movements to feel as though we have won, so that they can pull the rug out from under us in the near future. I argue that we are being set up.

    Again, the elites are openly telling us what is about to happen. They are telling us that if “populists” (conservatives) gain political power, the system will effectively collapse. To what extent is hard to say, but let’s assume that the situation will be ugly enough to influence the masses to reconsider the ideal of globalism as a possible solution. The elites are fond of the Hegelian dialectic and the philosophy of “order out of chaos,” after all.

    The only way to counter this developing lie is for liberty champions to first accept the idea that our political victories might be ultimately meaningless and that we are being allowed to take charge of a ship that is already sinking. Only then can we distance ourselves from an exponential fiscal disaster by distancing ourselves from the narrative.

    Perhaps I am wrong, and in November we see a dismal Trump performance and a Clinton victory. But if we see a “surprise” Trump election win, just as we saw a surprise Brexit win, then it may be time to consider that the surface of this situation is not what it appears.

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