Boris Trajkovski

[Bill77]

OK guys, Ivanov is no good, Gruevski no good, Buchkovski no good,Trajkovski was no good, who do we have left????? i know, lets have a military Junta running our country. lol

[Jankovska]

OK guys, Ivanov is no good, Gruevski no good, Buchkovski no good,Trajkovski was no good, who do we have left????? i know, lets have a military Junta running our country. lol

As I have been saying maybe it's time for revolucija, and we put some poor person with no vrski who would give a fuck about the country and people and only maybe than we will stand a chance. We shouldn't settle for someone just because we think we are running out of options or people. There is always a solution to any problem

[Prolet]

You quote me untrinski vesnik its the most anti-government you can find.

He's done more to defend our name more then any other President, that already makes him better then anybody else before him. I guess its better to have a president like Gligorov stating that we are Slavs who have nothing to do with Macedonians?

[Jankovska]

You quote me untrinski vesnik its the most anti-government you can find.

He's done more to defend our name more then any other President, that already makes him better then anybody else before him. I guess its better to have a president like Gligorov stating that we are Slavs who have nothing to do with Macedonians?

Should we just read the ones lead by the gov only? I am anti gov, bbanme. Jeez prolet you probably missing Jugoland, than we had to read, and listen to paprers/ news only on chanel that were owned by the gov.

[Warrior]

You quote me untrinski vesnik its the most anti-government you can find.

He's done more to defend our name more then any other President, that already makes him better then anybody else before him. I guess its better to have a president like Gligorov stating that we are Slavs who have nothing to do with Macedonians?

Prolet some of your responses are so illogical that they are funny!!

Btw i still havent seen a link from you in regards to the honour that was bestowed to Zhelev by Ivanov the other day? Doesnt that make him a Bugarofil??? Is that something to support as a president??

[Warrior]

OK guys, Ivanov is no good, Gruevski no good, Buchkovski no good,Trajkovski was no good, who do we have left????? i know, lets have a military Junta running our country. lol

The above names belonged to either the VMRO or SDSM party. In other words VMRO since 1991 is a pro-Bulgarian party and SDSM is pro-Serbian/Socialist party. Prolet dont question me on that, because i am going to clog up the forum of examples where the VMRO has pro-bulgarian inclination!!! I think its nigh time that both of those parties are scrapped and a Macedonian party is voted in power that has the main interests of the Macedonian nation and heritage!!!Maybe a Junta is the way to go......
Its shame the current VMRO is saying that they are representing the real VMRO of Goce Delchev and Co. I think it is embarassment the current VMRO and Goce Delchev to be used in the same sentence. To preserve any true heroes and their values, the current VMRO should be scrapped becasue it is an embarassment. The current leaders are using the VMRO name to get themselves in power. Just take a look at "Vojvoda" Lupco and he still comes to parliament. Why doesnt Grujo act on it? He might hurt his feelings, considering Grujo was part of the government when Lupco sold Macedonia to the Shiptari.....

[Bill77]

I find it hard to believe a Macedonian Gruevski who has ancestry from egej is a Bulgarian or is pro Bulgarian. Does not make sence to me.

[Prolet]

Me too Bill

Pro Bulgarian my arse, the top people in charge are Egejci nothing to do with Bulgaria.

The fact that Gruevski's government has the worst relations with Bulgaria since our independence is proof enough.

[Risto the Great]

More Egejci than you could possibly imagine were hoping the Bulgarians would help liberate us.

[Bill77]

Me too Bill

Pro Bulgarian my arse, the top people in charge are Egejci nothing to do with Bulgaria.

The fact that Gruevski's government has the worst relations with Bulgaria since our independence is proof enough.

The Pro Bulgarians of VMRO mooved on to Narodna partia. There might still be some two faced hanging around, but they will be ironed out i'm sure. But to label Gruevski as one, is a bit far fetched.

[Warrior]

The Pro Bulgarians of VMRO mooved on to Narodna partia. There might still be some two faced hanging around, but they will be ironed out i'm sure. But to label Gruevski as one, is a bit far fetched.

I said since 91 Vmro has shown on many occassions to be closer to the Bulgarian cause than the Macedonian cause. It was clearly shown during the 2001 and their leader that lives in Bulgaria now. Also it is a fact that Gruevski was part of that party at that time. Why didnt he speak out than? As usual more worried about his back than the Macedonian people, Why didnt he intervene in the shameful act that Ivanov did the other day?

My point is that Macedonia will be much better off without parties like VMRO and SDSM that are all sellouts.

[Warrior]

Me too Bill

Pro Bulgarian my arse, the top people in charge are Egejci nothing to do with Bulgaria.

The fact that Gruevski's government has the worst relations with Bulgaria since our independence is proof enough.

What makes you say that? The bit that we are honouring their past president? It is correct that the Bulgarian current president is lot more ruthless towards us and not the other way around. Gruevski is USA lapdog, what makes you think he wont flip and follow his predecossor.

Why always Gruevski? I said since 91 VMRO has shown to be more closer to the Bulgarian cause. Do you think that is not a fact? Somehow you concetrate only on Gruevski's time as the VMRO and not since 91? Why forget the past? Isnt the past that shapes the future?

Didnt Gruevski, during his first campaing say that he will have a pure macedonian government and not be associated with Ahmeti the terrorist? What happened when he needed votes, he caved in. Prolet, Prolet izgleda uste si dete and dobro ne e razbiras makedonskata politika!!

Have a think about, before you shoot out some dribble....They are bunch of sell outs....

[Bill77]

I said since 91 Vmro has shown on many occassions to be closer to the Bulgarian cause than the Macedonian cause. It was clearly shown during the 2001 and their leader that lives in Bulgaria now. Also it is a fact that Gruevski was part of that party at that time. Why didnt he speak out than? As usual more worried about his back than the Macedonian people, Why didnt he intervene in the shameful act that Ivanov did the other day?

My point is that Macedonia will be much better off without parties like VMRO and SDSM that are all sellouts.

Why should we wary if he awards a medal or what ever to a Bulgarian. Its all an act, its politics, just as that Bulgarian reciepiant claimed he hid alot for Macedonia. Its a game. I have given a member (Spartan) a pat on the back on this thread. Does that make me a Greek or pro Greek? Lets not make a mountain out of a mole hill. Remember politicians play politics. This is nothing more than Ivanov being diplomatic.

And i already stated my thoughts on the Bulgarian sympathisers from 2001 and onwards. Also Blaming Gruevski for the 2001 leader that eventualy showed his horns, You can eaqualy blame the over Million people that voted him in.

[Prolet]

Warrior, Da ne te lazhvaja Komunistine??

I got no doubt that with Ljubco Georgievski at charge the political party was pro Bulgarian however things have changed. I very much agree with Blagojche about all this, there might be some two faced Gjupci still hanging around however the overall image at this moment is much better then before.

You are forgetting the uproar the Bulgarians created during the Spaska Mitrova case, Bulgaria was prepared to veto us i wouldnt call that good neighborly relations.

If you want pro Bulgarian parties then look no further then Obedineti za Makedonija and VMRO-Narodna.

[Warrior]

Warrior, Da ne te lazhvaja Komunistine??

I got no doubt that with Ljubco Georgievski at charge the political party was pro Bulgarian however things have changed. I very much agree with Blagojche about all this, there might be some two faced Gjupci still hanging around however the overall image at this moment is much better then before.

You are forgetting the uproar the Bulgarians created during the Spaska Mitrova case, Bulgaria was prepared to veto us i wouldnt call that good neighborly relations.

If you want pro Bulgarian parties then look no further then Obedineti za Makedonija and VMRO-Narodna.

I am not sure what you are referring to? I despise both leading political parties!!! They are corrupt and are breeding a corrupt future generation which will sell Macedonia at the drop of the hat!! There is no future for that country until those two cancers are totally removed and let someone with integrity to lead the country!! It might seem crazy, but someone from the diaspora might have to step up to the plate and save that country before its too late!!

Again you skirted around my questions and used some kind of accussations. Id say dont trust a wolve that has been re-dressed and that is what current VMRO is from Lupco days! Gruevski was part of it.

Its time you take the blinkers off and see the real reason why Macedonia has been pillaged since 91, and other countries are running it.

First thing Gruevski should have done is got rid off the Ramkovskiot dogovor. Instead he is implementing it to a tee!!! Is there a bigger pedajnik than that??? Give him credit that he is stubborn to the Greeks and wants to piss them off over the name (That is more personal objective than a strategy) but on the other hand he is giving up everything to the Albos and the Yanks and the other day we started thanking the Bulgarins as our nation building fathers!!!! I toa tie premier na drzava!!??

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