Jovan Vraniskovski - The Traitor

[Vangelovski]

He's certainly not a Greek citizen. I see he hasn't even studied in Greece or Constantinople.

Is this true? Is this what Makedonche demands as "people's justice"? I understand you're with the other Church, but why all the fuz?

Whats that "other" church you are refering to?

[Akzion]

I understand the two Churches are

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonian_Orthodox_Church

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthodox_Ohrid_Archbishopric

and they are schismatic and canonical respectively...
...or maybe inversely depending on where you belong.
(Don’t ask for my opinion. I’m an atheist)

[makedonche]

He's certainly not a Greek citizen. I see he hasn't even studied in Greece or Constantinople.

Is this true? Is this what Makedonche demands as "people's justice"? I understand you're with the other Church, but why all the fuz?

Akzion
Your time here is rapidly reaching it's use by date, if you are going to quote me then read what I wrote and quote me accurately, you have been afforded equal rights and respect here so use it wisely because once you lose my respect I'm not giving you any more and I will seek to have you removed immediately! Now for you I will explain it in simple terms, "people's justice" is when people have lost faith in their system of governance and law and begin to take matters into their own hands and use whatever resources they have available in a matter befitting the circumstances. So that you may understand this a little easier read the daily newspapers in Athens regarding riots/strikes and so forth - this is an example of people's justice, they have had enough of beaurocracy and government failures to address their basic concerns.
Do you get it now?

[julie]

Akzion
Your time here is rapidly reaching it's use by date, if you are going to quote me then read what I wrote and quote me accurately, you have been afforded equal rights and respect here so use it wisely because once you lose my respect I'm not giving you any more and I will seek to have you removed immediately! Now for you I will explain it in simple terms, "people's justice" is when people have lost faith in their system of governance and law and begin to take matters into their own hands and use whatever resources they have available in a matter befitting the circumstances. So that you may understand this a little easier read the daily newspapers in Athens regarding riots/strikes and so forth - this is an example of people's justice, they have had enough of beaurocracy and government failures to address their basic concerns.
Do you get it now?

Akzion, continue on your path and you will be shown the door.

[Risto the Great]

I understand the two Churches are

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonian_Orthodox_Church

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthodox_Ohrid_Archbishopric

and they are schismatic and canonical respectively...
...or maybe inversely depending on where you belong.
(Don’t ask for my opinion. I’m an atheist)

One is the church of the Macedonian people. The other is a tool of Greece and Serbia.

[Akzion]

Makedonce,
I don’t know why you’re mad at me or Vraniskovski, and nope… your answer was not clear. Was that story true? Was that legal? Who did it? Do you condemn it?
By coincidence, the whole world is discussing today a similar case, the non-extradition of Battisti by Brazil to Italy. You will find that the international public opinion is quite different with these two cases, and that Vraniskovski’s imprisonments are not… bought on a global level, and your obsession costs you on human rights ratings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jovan_Vraniskovski#International_Reactions

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesare_Battisti_(1954)

Julie,
Continue on your path, and you will find the whole forum in… the eternal flames of hell. And… and… orthodox, canonical, schismatic and autocephalous are all Greek words.

Risto the Great,
Well I read about the Nis agreement, but my knowledge on the rules of Orthodox Church is rusty and I admit I don’t understand the core of the problem. I understand that as long as you were in Yugoslavia, you could not have an autocephalous Church and the 1967 Church was not canonical.
But now you’re an independent country and I thought Nis agreement was giving you autocephaly, canonicity and was at first signed by all your Bishops. Did it have secret terms I don’t get? Is this merely a case of hierarchs fighting for ecclesiastical power (typical)? Is it a geopolitical thing? What is the stance of Patriarchy? What has happened with the other former Yugoslavia and Soviet States and their Churches?

[Frank]

If I were Forum admin I would ban Greek, Bulgarian and Albanian posters

I have no time or Interest in ever giving them a moment of air.

Macedonians and only friends of Macedonia not our darn enemys

[Bill77]

If I were Forum admin I would ban Greek, Bulgarian and Albanian posters

I have no time or Interest in ever giving them a moment of air.

Macedonians and only friends of Macedonia not our darn enemys

Especially the ones that use wiki time and time again. What is it with these people.

[Akzion]

Frank,
I'm also Macedonian. Actually I had many more questions about the Church, but I was afraid to ask.

[Bill77]

Frank,
I'm also Macedonian. Actually I had many more questions about the Church, but I was afraid to ask.

In your dreams you wannabe Black Ancient Hellene

[julie]

Akzion, the only hell I know of is the hell in Hellass

[Frank]

Fuck him Julie Greeks don't deserve to breath

In the late 70's Scientists of the White South Africa Movement actually developed a genetic trigger to kill the black population

How much I would love to see the same manufactured to kill the deluded Greek gene but I doubt any marker would ever succeed.

[DirtyCodingHabitz]

In the late 70's Scientists of the White South Africa Movement actually developed a genetic trigger to kill the black population

You got any facts on that?

[Frank]

You got any facts on that?

I watched a great Documentary not long ago a very powerful film. Can not remember its name but I am sure if you look hard enough you can find something out there.

[George S.]

are you willing to pull the trigger frank?