Originally posted by Akzion
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Jovan Vraniskovski - The Traitor
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If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams
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I understand the two Churches are
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and they are schismatic and canonical respectively...
...or maybe inversely depending on where you belong.
(Don’t ask for my opinion. I’m an atheist)
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Originally posted by Akzion View PostHe's certainly not a Greek citizen. I see he hasn't even studied in Greece or Constantinople.
Is this true? Is this what Makedonche demands as "people's justice"? I understand you're with the other Church, but why all the fuz?
Your time here is rapidly reaching it's use by date, if you are going to quote me then read what I wrote and quote me accurately, you have been afforded equal rights and respect here so use it wisely because once you lose my respect I'm not giving you any more and I will seek to have you removed immediately! Now for you I will explain it in simple terms, "people's justice" is when people have lost faith in their system of governance and law and begin to take matters into their own hands and use whatever resources they have available in a matter befitting the circumstances. So that you may understand this a little easier read the daily newspapers in Athens regarding riots/strikes and so forth - this is an example of people's justice, they have had enough of beaurocracy and government failures to address their basic concerns.
Do you get it now?On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"
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Originally posted by makedonche View PostAkzion
Your time here is rapidly reaching it's use by date, if you are going to quote me then read what I wrote and quote me accurately, you have been afforded equal rights and respect here so use it wisely because once you lose my respect I'm not giving you any more and I will seek to have you removed immediately! Now for you I will explain it in simple terms, "people's justice" is when people have lost faith in their system of governance and law and begin to take matters into their own hands and use whatever resources they have available in a matter befitting the circumstances. So that you may understand this a little easier read the daily newspapers in Athens regarding riots/strikes and so forth - this is an example of people's justice, they have had enough of beaurocracy and government failures to address their basic concerns.
Do you get it now?"The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task."__________________Gotse Delchev
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Originally posted by Akzion View PostI understand the two Churches are
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and they are schismatic and canonical respectively...
...or maybe inversely depending on where you belong.
(Don’t ask for my opinion. I’m an atheist)Risto the Great
MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
"Holding my breath for the revolution."
Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com
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Makedonce,
I don’t know why you’re mad at me or Vraniskovski, and nope… your answer was not clear. Was that story true? Was that legal? Who did it? Do you condemn it?
By coincidence, the whole world is discussing today a similar case, the non-extradition of Battisti by Brazil to Italy. You will find that the international public opinion is quite different with these two cases, and that Vraniskovski’s imprisonments are not… bought on a global level, and your obsession costs you on human rights ratings.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesare_Battisti_(1954)
Julie,
Continue on your path, and you will find the whole forum in… the eternal flames of hell. And… and… orthodox, canonical, schismatic and autocephalous are all Greek words.
Risto the Great,
Well I read about the Nis agreement, but my knowledge on the rules of Orthodox Church is rusty and I admit I don’t understand the core of the problem. I understand that as long as you were in Yugoslavia, you could not have an autocephalous Church and the 1967 Church was not canonical.
But now you’re an independent country and I thought Nis agreement was giving you autocephaly, canonicity and was at first signed by all your Bishops. Did it have secret terms I don’t get? Is this merely a case of hierarchs fighting for ecclesiastical power (typical)? Is it a geopolitical thing? What is the stance of Patriarchy? What has happened with the other former Yugoslavia and Soviet States and their Churches?
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Originally posted by Frank View PostIf I were Forum admin I would ban Greek, Bulgarian and Albanian posters
I have no time or Interest in ever giving them a moment of air.
Macedonians and only friends of Macedonia not our darn enemyshttp://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873
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Fuck him Julie Greeks don't deserve to breath
In the late 70's Scientists of the White South Africa Movement actually developed a genetic trigger to kill the black population
How much I would love to see the same manufactured to kill the deluded Greek gene but I doubt any marker would ever succeed.
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are you willing to pull the trigger frank?"Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
GOTSE DELCEV
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