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  • Bill77
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 4545

    #16
    QUOTE: "Although many EU member states backed setting a date for start of membership talks, still it is postponed due to Greece opposing and insisting on previously resolving the name issue. This will only further complicate things in 2010."

    QUOTE: "To Vima daily reports that Greece is under strong pressure from Brussels to accept setting of date for start of EU accession talks with Macedonia. Daily reads that many EU member states pointed out the argument that Macedonia’s accession in the EU is factor of stability in the Balkans."



    If you read between the lines, Behind closed doors, Europe (apart from the Frogs) would be discusted by Greece Behaviour. But its this Unanimous rule That is the problem. Greece can celebrate and Party as much as they want. They are alone in there party.
    http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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    • Prolet
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 5241

      #17
      Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
      The line was drawn in the sand and our leaders did not let us down. They are to be commended for holding the will of the Macedonian people first and foremost in their thoughts.
      Risto, you are dead right my friend, we cant always post negative feedback we need to give credit where its due.

      Lets not forget that Yesterday was Sveti Kliment and today is Sveti Gjorgjija, it seems like something is watching over us since they defended our name, our svetci will not allow for our name to be changed.

      Imeto nashe ne go davame, neka ni ja zemat dushata ako sakat!!!

      Blagojche, let them celebrate their pirova pobeda as long as we are hanging on and not changing our name, i couldnt care less what they do behind closed doors.
      МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.

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      • Bill77
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2009
        • 4545

        #18
        Originally posted by Prolet View Post

        Blagojche, let them celebrate their pirova pobeda as long as we are hanging on and not changing our name, i couldnt care less what they do behind closed doors.
        It was more of a tongue in cheek coment about the party. Evan if they are, it will be a somber one. What is a party with out friends.

        Lets be realistic. Clearly the whole of EU wants us in and does not give a shit about if we keep or change the Name. with all the reports we are getting lately, this is undisputable. The EU needs us in as much as we need them if not more. Now like i said before, the only reason why EU and Macedonia are not getting there way is this Thorn called Greece that abuse's there power over pathetic things (ie threatening Iceland for attempting to show a film) and black mails. But the more longer this goes on, The more the west gets frustrated and Greece digs there own hole deeper.
        http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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        • Risto the Great
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 15658

          #19
          Originally posted by Bill77 View Post
          The EU needs us in as much as we need them if not more.
          The EU would be devastated if the USA has its way with Macedonia. It is extremely eager to prevent them from being the sphere of influence in the Balkans.
          Risto the Great
          MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
          "Holding my breath for the revolution."

          Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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          • Bill77
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2009
            • 4545

            #20
            Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
            The EU would be devastated if the USA has its way with Macedonia. It is extremely eager to prevent them from being the sphere of influence in the Balkans.
            I would except USA over EU any time. Its better the Devil you know than the Devil you Don't. Though EU has well and truly started showing its Horns.
            http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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            • Prolet
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 5241

              #21
              YouTube - Greece will pay very soon!
              МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.

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              • Prolet
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 5241

                #22
                Well Said Miloshoski!!

                YouTube - МилошоÑки Блокадата е нова грчка хипокризија
                МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.

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                • Soldier of Macedon
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 13670

                  #23
                  Look how diplomatic we are, still, after everything that has been thrown at us, now compare this to the psychotic racists from the Greek government. Europe is turning a blind eye to this, and those among them that support the racists will receive the same courtesy when the time comes.
                  In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                  • Bill77
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 4545

                    #24
                    Bulgaria backed Macedonia for EU membership - Bulgarian PM


                    Bonn, December 10 (MIA) - Bulgaria has supported Macedonia in Brussels to obtain a date for start of negotiations and we hope this will be appreciated. Our position resembled the agreement we've made with Prime Minister Nikola Gruevski, says Bulgarian Premier Boyko Borisov in an interview with Deutsche Welle radio - Macedonian language program.

                    Considering claims that Bulgaria was reserved, even against Macedonia to get a date for membership talks, Borisov says those who report these information want to deteriorate Bulgaria's relations with Macedonia. - But they will not succeed, the PM states.

                    The Bulgarian PM fell short of responding whether the country has the chance to get a date for negotiations in the course of Spain's EU presidency. Borisov welcomes the visa liberalisation for the citizens of Macedonia as of Dec. 19, saying he expects the visa-free regime to enable them to see that EU membership is beneficial and to become closer friends with Bulgaria.

                    - I salute our Macedonian neighbours who will travel freely throughout EU as of Dec. 19. Then for the first time they will understand how different is the time in which they lived in and how the situation has changed. They will understand that is better to be in EU and NATO and to foster neighbourly ties. I hope that after Dec. 19 Macedonians will understand that they should become closer friends with Bulgaria, urges Borisov.

                    Asked about his last week's address in the Parliament referring to the relations with Macedonia, where he failed to mention the existence of Macedonian language and to state whether the language was a problem between both countries at a Q&A session with MPs, PM Borisov says it is not an issue for his country. He deems he gave a balanced response, presenting a clear position in relation to Macedonia, which had been previously agreed with country's president.

                    - Every country has internal political issues. There are people in Macedonia and in Bulgaria who see backwards in history, but they need to be pushed aside. Bulgaria has no issues with the Macedonian language. Our only concern is Macedonia and Bulgaria to become developed European countries. Emphasis should be put on the advancement of the economic climate, trade, services, etc..., stated Bulgaria's PM Borisov, who takes part at a congress of the European People's Party (EPP) in Bonn where he met with his Macedonian counterpart Nikola Gruevski at its sidelines.

                    Bulgaria has supported Macedonia in Brussels to obtain a date for start of negotiations and we hope this will be appreciated. Our position resembled the agreement we
                    http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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                    • Bill77
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 4545

                      #25
                      Macedonian President makes it Clear to Greece, the EU


                      Thursday, 10 December 2009

                      - Macedonia will not alter the Constitution in order to change its constitutional name, and will not accept any settlement that violates Macedonian national and language identity, said President Gjorge Ivanov during Thursday's formal academy at the Skopje-based Faculty of Law on occasion of the International Human Rights Day.

                      President Ivanov stressed that Macedonia would not succumb to any pressure, at any time in depriving its right for self-determination and self-identification.

                      "This is the essence of human rights and the living force of the free world. Therefore, our red line in the talks with Greece does not originate from nationalism, caprice, demonstration of power or irrational requirements, but from the fundamental civilization benefits of man's struggle for freedom", said Ivanov.

                      According to him, no one should deny the identity of the Macedonian people, adding that pride and dignity of Macedonia's citizens should not be played with.

                      "All human rights inscribed in international declarations and guaranteed by international organizations would be compromised if someone denies your cultural, language and national identity. The human rights code will never be complete if the right of free expression of the national and cultural identity is not realized. The right to be recognized as you feel and declare yourself. People can suffer a lot with heads held high, but their dignity and pride is toppled when you don't acknowledge the thing they believe in the most - their identity", emphasized Ivanov.

                      He said the recognition and respect of the dignity and rights derive from the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

                      "Recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world", Ivanov cited the Declaration.

                      The Macedonian President claimed the country had demonstrated it observed European principles and criteria, finding itself on the right path, which was confirmed by the EC recommendation for beginning of Union accession negotiations.

                      "I would like to thank the European Commission, Commissioner Olli Rehn, the European Parliament the EU Council, the Swedish Presidency, especially FM Carl Bildt, as well as all countries that stood behind the Union's true values, supporting the launch of accession negotiations. Their support is a proof that Macedonia is not alone, while Macedonian citizens have allies in the struggle for justice", stated Ivanov.

                      He underlined that such support motivated Macedonia in more intensive cooperation with proven friends, convincing those who are not entirely convinced through the force of arguments, as well as remain actively involved in the process of finding settlement to the name problem imposed by Greece.

                      The academy was attended by Vice Premier for European Affairs Vasko Naumovski, US ambassador to Macedonia Philip Reeker, Law Faculty Dean Borce Davitkovski, professors, students etc.



                      President Ivanov is the real Deal. He would have to be The best President we have had so far. And he will be hard to beat in future.
                      http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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                      • Dimko-piperkata
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 1876

                        #26
                        quarrel between German and Greek MEPs

                        22 January 2010 | 12:40

                        Skopje. The last sitting of the European Parliament (EP) delegation in Strasbourg on Wednesday, held to work out the details around the meeting of the Joint Parliamentary Committee EU-Macedonia scheduled for February 18-19 in Skopje, ended up with a severe discussion, which looked like a quarrel between German and Greek MEPs, Macedonian Utrinski Vesnik daily writes.
                        The wish of committee’s chairperson, German MEP Jorgo Chatzimarkakis, not to discuss the name issue but country’s progress during the sitting did not last for too long, the newspaper comments.
                        Macedonian ambassador to the EU, Blemir Reka, presented Macedonia’s progress achieved between the two sittings of the committee. He remarked that Macedonia has met all conditions for launching the negotiations over country’s EU accession but it is still outplayed by the name dispute with Greece, which has turned into unwritten criteria, which may hamper the negotiations process. Reka said before the MEPs that under Article 11 of the Interim Accord between the two counties, Greece does not have the right to stop Macedonia’s membership in the international organizations.
                        “Greek MEPs Georgios Koumoutsakos and Anni Podimata, backed by Bulgarian Evgeni Kirilov, showing some constructiveness, required good neighborly relations several times, calling for Macedonia not to mount provocations against its neighbors. According to them, the name dispute is not a bilateral issue. Kirilov wanted to know which of the two counties is constructive and ready for a compromise, accusing Macedonia of non-observation of the human rights. Kirilov pointed at the Spaska Mitrova case as an example”, Utrinski Vesnik writes.
                        German MEPs Michael Cramer and Martin Kastler, together with Romanian Monica Macovei, said that it is a bilateral issue, which cannot be understood by the other countries, but this issue is blocking Macedonia’s way to the EU and NATO, the newspaper writes further.
                        1) Macedonians belong to the "older" Mediterranean substratum...
                        2) Macedonians are not related with geographically close Greeks, who do not belong to the "older" Mediterranenan substratum...

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                        • TrueMacedonian
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 3812

                          #27
                          What can one honestly say in this case about this article. There's a few things to dissect here. One being the fact that Germany is the reason why Macedonia is embroiled in this "name issue" nonsense. The German self-interest's in the early 90's that prevailed with modern "greece" willing to recognize Croatia if Germany did not recognize Macedonia is one of the main reasons for this bs today. The other fact that the Germans forefathers had literally created the modern "greeks" from top to bottom and their country is also a giant factor which should always be taken into account.

                          Now what amazes me is what this Bulgar here states;

                          Kirilov wanted to know which of the two counties is constructive and ready for a compromise, accusing Macedonia of non-observation of the human rights. Kirilov pointed at the Spaska Mitrova case as an example”, Utrinski Vesnik writes.
                          WHAT??? This whole issue with Spaska Mitrova and yet the Macedonian minority in Bulgaria aren't even recognized and are constantly under a threat of ridicule and worse if they call themselves Macedonians. This is major league BS.
                          Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!

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                          • Risto the Great
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 15658

                            #28
                            How can Macedonia take advantage of the Greek and Bulgarian stupidity? The responses are always so painfully obvious. It would be fun for Macedonia to play with them for once.
                            Risto the Great
                            MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                            "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                            Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                            • Soldier of Macedon
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 13670

                              #29
                              Macedonia could play games with those two quite easily if the Macedonian Government toughened up and realised that the strength of their neighbours is an illusion. The immaturity and idiocy exhibited by Greek and Bulgar politicians on a regular basis reassures me that we are dealing with a pack of morons who have the upper hand (for now) as a result of circumstance and the desires of external powers (US, EU) only, next to none of the 'power' they have is due to their own ability.
                              In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                              • osiris
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 1969

                                #30
                                nashite comshii se bestramni tinkachi.

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