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  • Prolet
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 5241

    Seing that he is a direct EU rapporteur for Macedonia i wonder if somebody influenced him into writing bad reports about our country? Its no secret that he is very close to the SDSM party who openly promoted him so did A1 Television which still hasnt aired this story.

    Macedonia Can't Catch a Break as its EU Rapporteur is Caught Accepting Bribes

    Monday, 21 March 2011

    Former Romanian deputy prime minister Adrian Severin and former Slovenian foreign minister Zoran Thaler - both Socialists - were exposed by British media (the Sunday Times) as having accepted cash payments in return for introducing amendments to legislation.

    European Parliament spokesman Jaume Duch said that Diana Wallis, a British liberal democrat and one of the EU assembly's vice presidents, has ordered an inquiry into the scandal.

    'The allegations made by the Sunday Times are serious and the European Parliament takes them seriously,' he told the German Press Agency dpa.

    Zoran Thaler is very well known to the Macedonian public. Ironically, Mr. Thaler is assigned by the EU as a Rapporteur where he gets to (judge, grade) the country on its accomplishments or lack thereof, also tells Macedonia how it should tackle corruption!?

    Is the Macedonian Government aware that Mr. Thaler's 'repports' and 'opinions' can be purchased for as little as 100,000 Euros? Undoubtedly, they became aware thanks to the British Media who was on a mission to expose corrupt EU Officials (or perhaps expose the EU as a corrupt institution).

    This massive exposure of bribery and corruption among high ranking EU officials begs the question - who influenced (paid for) Mr. Thaler's strange 'reports' on Macedonia? Judging by the video, all you seem to need is a credit card.

    МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.

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    • slovenec zrinski
      Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 385

      also tells Macedonia how it should tackle corruption
      The irony of it all

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      • slovenec zrinski
        Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 385

        Zoran Thaler je po podkupovalni aferi odstopil z mesta evropskega poslanca, kar naj bi mu svetoval predsednik njegove SD Borut Pahor. K njemu je moral na zagovor, še prej pa so ga podrobno izprašali na protikorupcijski komisiji.


        Thaler je odstopil= Thaler has resigned

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        • fyrOM
          Banned
          • Feb 2010
          • 2180

          Originally posted by Prolet View Post
          Seing that he is a direct EU rapporteur for Macedonia i wonder if somebody influenced him into writing bad reports about our country? Its no secret that he is very close to the SDSM party who openly promoted him so did A1 Television which still hasnt aired this story.

          Zoran Thaler is very well known to the Macedonian public. Ironically, Mr. Thaler is assigned by the EU as a Rapporteur where he gets to (judge, grade) the country on its accomplishments or lack thereof, also tells Macedonia how it should tackle corruption!?

          This massive exposure of bribery and corruption among high ranking EU officials begs the question - who influenced (paid for) Mr. Thaler's strange 'reports' on Macedonia? Judging by the video, all you seem to need is a credit card.
          Thaler je odstopil= Thaler has resigned
          "Patriot Games"

          Another one bites the dust.
          Last edited by fyrOM; 03-21-2011, 02:26 PM.

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          • Soldier of Macedon
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 13670

            Originally posted by slovenec zrinski View Post
            http://24ur.com/novice/slovenija/wal...sne.html#video

            Thaler je odstopil= Thaler has resigned
            Zrinski, is that confirmed as a fact? If so, great news, and good riddance to bad rubbish. Now perhaps Macedonia and Slovenia can (re)establish a partnership and ties based on mutual respect, like the way it was and the way it should be.

            The whole idea of Slovenia disrespecting Macedonia just to appease Greece was wrong for so many reasons. Hopefully this phase in Slovenian politics is over, but I am not holding my breath in faith of politicians. Thaler's replacement may turn out to be a crooked dud like himself.
            In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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            • slovenec zrinski
              Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 385

              Both u and I can wish that And I hope it will be so but...from what I have learned about Slovenian politicians lately....who knows?

              I think he has resigned but I will follow this closely on Slo-media.

              And by the way..I sent him this message to his wall on Facebook I want to have some influence as well

              "My question for u is: How cheap would you go? Cause I am an ordinary factory-worker and I don´t have much money but perhaps I can buy you for some euros anyway? Pls message me you rates!"

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              • Dimko-piperkata
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 1876

                Zoran Thaler Quits His Post in EU Parliament
                Slovenian MEP and European Parliament's rapporteur on Macedonia, Zoran Thaler stepped down on Monday after The Sunday Times has accused him of corruption.

                In a press release posted on his website, Thaler says that his "resignation should enable an investigation of all facts and circumstances of this attempt to compromise my name, without any pressure."

                "In accordance with my ethical standards, I would like that the truth comes out and that it shows who acted legally and who illegally", says Thaler in a statement.

                On Sunday, The Sunday Times revealed that three MEPs and former ministers from Romania, Slovenia and Austria, Adrian Severin, Zoran Thaler and Ernst Strasser respectively have been exposed in financial scandal.

                Journalists posed as financial lobbyists and have approached MEPs offering them large sums of money yearly salary of €100,000 in return for watering down banking reform legislation.

                Adrian Severin has sent an invoice for €12,000 for “consulting services.”

                Zoran Thaler, former Slovenian FM requested the money to be transferred on association’s account based in London.

                And former Austrian interior minister Ernst Strasser, who stated he was the lobbyist, requested first rate of the money, € 25,000 to be transferred on his association’s account in Austria.

                After “Sunday Times” exposed the scandal, daily reports, Severin said he did not do anything bad while Strasser and Thaler stated that they knew from the very beginning that it was reporters and they only wanted to find out to what extent the things will go?! Balkans...
                1) Macedonians belong to the "older" Mediterranean substratum...
                2) Macedonians are not related with geographically close Greeks, who do not belong to the "older" Mediterranenan substratum...

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                • Risto the Great
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 15658

                  He is a tainted man.
                  Anything he has ever said or done in relation to Macedonia should be nothing more than a bad memory. We have evidence Greeks pay bribes and we have evidence he accepts bribes. More dots do not have to be joined.
                  Risto the Great
                  MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                  "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                  Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                  • Soldier of Macedon
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 13670

                    Thaler says that his "resignation should enable an investigation of all facts and circumstances of this attempt to compromise my name, without any pressure."
                    Just like you've been attempting to compromise Macedonia's name? You got what you had coming, you pathetic little worm.
                    In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                    • Bill77
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 4545

                      BULGARIAN MEP VIGENIN NEW EP RAPPORTEUR FOR MACEDONIA

                      Strasbourg, 4 April 2011 (MIA) - Bulgarian MEP Kristian Vigenin is the new European Parliament Rapporteur for Macedonia.

                      This Wednesday he will defend a draft resolution on Macedonia's progress towards the EU membership before the EP Foreign Policy Committee.

                      Vigenin is the successor of former MEP Zoran Thaler, who resigned from his post over alleged corruption scandal.

                      At the moment Vigenin is the chair of the Party of European Socialists Task Force on Western Balkan Enlargement.

                      He has urged the European Union on several occasions to send a strong political message to the region for the Western Balkan countries to be sure that the European prospect is still feasible them.
                      Its like letting a fox to look after the chickens. lol

                      Well Milosovski would be happy...... or would he, if you consider now the spanner is in the works on his EU aspirations.
                      Last edited by Bill77; 04-05-2011, 04:33 AM.
                      http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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                      • Bill77
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 4545

                        Originally posted by Bill77 View Post
                        BULGARIAN MEP VIGENIN NEW EP RAPPORTEUR FOR MACEDONIA

                        Its like letting a fox to look after the chickens. lol

                        Well Milosovski would be happy...... or would he, if you consider now the spanner is in the works on his EU aspirations.

                        This is from one of my latest post,

                        FM Milososki: Macedonia needs a Respectable EP Rapporteur

                        The next EP Rapporteur for Macedonia should be a person that enjoys great respect, and if it happens it would be a pleasure to cooperate with him in favor of turning the country's goal into reality - opening of its EU accession talks, Foreign Minister Antonio Milososki told reporters on Monday.

                        There is a tacit rule for the EP Rapporteur to be from any other but a neighbouring country, leaving no room for possible misunderstandings, Milososki said, after giving lecture at the University of Tourism and Management.
                        So what is going on here. Is the Bulgarian MEP Vigenin the new EP RAPPORTEUR FOR MACEDONIA or not. Is Milososki snubbing one of his Bulgarian mates?
                        Last edited by Bill77; 04-19-2011, 10:43 PM.
                        http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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                        • Risto the Great
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 15658

                          Slovenia, shame on you.

                          By Sinisa Jakov Marusic Slovenian MEP Jelko Kacin accuses government of Prime Minister Nikola Gruevski of manipulating the media, provoking Greece, reversing reforms and says 'it's an honour to be labeled an enemy of Macedonia these days'. Jelko Kacin, member of the European Parliament's Foreign Affairs Committee, says the Gruevski government is better at making...

                          MEP ‘Honoured To Be Called Enemy Of Macedonia’
                          Written by: Balkan Insight

                          October 5, 2011
                          By Sinisa Jakov Marusic

                          Slovenian MEP Jelko Kacin accuses government of Prime Minister Nikola Gruevski of manipulating the media, provoking Greece, reversing reforms and says ‘it’s an honour to be labeled an enemy of Macedonia these days’.

                          Jelko Kacin, member of the European Parliament’s Foreign Affairs Committee, says the Gruevski government is better at making enemies than the friends who could help the country’s bids to join NATO and EU.

                          Kacin warned about a trend towards growing state control of media outlets and issues with human rights.

                          On September 20 Kacin chaired an acrimonious panel on Macedonian media freedom in the European Parliament in Brussels. Trouble started when three pro-government reporters from Macedonia started shouting insults, accusing the organizers and guests of denigrating Macedonia.

                          Q: How do you see Macedonia right now regarding its bid to join NATO and EU?

                          Unfortunately it seems that from 2005 [when Macedonia became an EU candidate] we have complete stagnation and even regression. Since then Macedonia has regressed far in the area of human rights, freedom of speech, the fight against organized crime and corruption.

                          Even if the country hypothetically solves the name issue [with Greece], right now it would take the country at least another year to eliminate the hate speech and the populist approach in order to be able to start the EU accession talks.

                          The regime of Gruevski [in power since 2006] has done everything to continue country’s isolation and prolong this status quo by creating and inventing enemies, foremost among neighbouring countries. Today you can hardly find any Macedonian neighbours that Macedonia recognizes as its friend.

                          Q: You have been particularly critical of the government for curbing media freedom. Are the media in Macedonia up to their task?

                          The deception of the public in Macedonia goes beyond all reason. And that is the core of the problem, bringing the entire nation into a state of illusion and euphoria, a kind of autistic life that has little to do with reality.

                          To illustrate my point I will take the incident that happened in the European Parliament in Brussels [on September 20]. At the panel discussion on media freedom in Macedonia, three Macedonian journalists who are not accredited in Brussels came from Skopje.

                          As moderator, I offered them a word right after the introductory speeches, but it was apparent that they came there to make an incident, to “break up” the panel as one of them openly stated in the media, afterwards.

                          It is interesting to note that the representative of the Macedonian embassy present at the panel did not distance himself from the incident.

                          The European Commission, the Council and the associations of electronic media have seen a live example of media freedom [in Macedonia] and of how they manipulate the public when they informed people afterwards about the incident back home. They presented themselves as victims who were not allowed to speak at the panel.

                          Q: Do you see a possible resolution of the Greek-Macedonian name dispute any time soon?

                          I think that [Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou] is doing a tremendous job tackling economic difficulties back in Greece. He is doing a great job for his country and for the whole Euro zone. He proves that the Greeks are far more down to earth than was estimated.

                          I have full confidence that he will endure and succeed in pulling Greece out of this difficult situation. Judging by this, I think that the ‘name’ is also a matter that he can solve together with Macedonia, of course.

                          Unfortunately, I see no potential in this moment that [Nikola] Gruevski could make a breakthrough for Macedonian part. I see that opportunity on the other side, in Greece.

                          Q: Are you referring to the statue of Alexander the Great in Skopje that Athens saw as a provocation?

                          This is a clear example of not acting as a good neighbour. In a situation where Macedonia has no friends, the regime [in Skopje] is sticking a finger in the eye of a neighbouring country by erecting monuments that have no names but when everybody know what their intention is.

                          Q: What are the regional implications of the stalled Macedonian Euro-Atlantic accession bid?

                          At this moment we have to ensure that someone else can pull the Western Balkans forward. Croatia and Macedonia received EU candidate status at approximately the same time. Croatia has done its work and solved its main problems with its neighbours. It started communicating with Serbia and delivered its people to The Hague. So it made tremendous progress.

                          We do not need new examples like Macedonia in the Western Balkans, countries that gain [EU] candidacy status and then cannot start accession talks. That is why it would be of utmost importance for Macedonia right now if Montenegro got a recommendation for accession talks and if Serbia obtained recommendation for candidate country status.

                          If Serbia, as the biggest country in the region, moves forward, the positive consequences will be felt across the region, including Macedonia and Kosovo. But if Serbia fails to do that, Macedonia will only fall into a worse situation, and the chances for breakthrough [in the name dispute] will be far slimmer.

                          Q: For your open criticism of the reforms in Macedonia you have been labeled an enemy of the country by some media in Skopje. What is your reaction?

                          As bizarre as it may sound it is an honour to be labeled an enemy of Macedonia these days, because here [in Macedonia] people who see things like they really are can recognize that we are only making efforts to help.

                          I am neither the first nor probably the last to be labeled that way. Just remember the former EU ambassador to Macedonia Erwan Fouere who did a tremendous job helping the country. He was labeled as enemy simply for pinpointing country’s shortcomings that needed to be fixed.

                          Alas, in the long run we have to stabilize the Western Balkans. If Serbia managed to make a breakthrough [regarding its EU bid] by delivering war crimes suspects to the Hague, I believe that Macedonia can do that as well. If Serbia changed I am confident that Macedonia also has the internal capacity to change and move forward towards NATO and EU instead of focusing on [so-called] antique-isation and history.

                          Q: Later this month the EC will issue its annual progress report on Macedonia. What can Macedonia expect from it?

                          Regardless of what the report will contain, more important is what the Macedonian public will be allowed to hear from it. Here lies the core of the manipulation of the public.
                          The only thing wrong with this article is that some people will be thinking "good on Gruevski for giving them hell!" ... when deep down we all know he has single-handedly created the Macedono/Albano Federation that some nostalgics refer to as Macedonia.
                          Risto the Great
                          MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                          "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                          Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                          • Vangelovski
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 8532

                            Its almost as if Gruevski/Kacin are playing good cop/bad cop, but in a wierd kind of way - much like when the pan-wannabie's criticise UMD and then Meto wears it as a badge of honour. They're both anti-Macedonian, but pander to a like minded crowd.
                            If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

                            The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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                            • Soldier of Macedon
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 13670

                              Slovenian politicians have been playing the same tune for a while now, they're no better than our own politicians, a bunch of sellouts who are happy to be slaves for their Eurocratic masters.
                              In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                              • Volk
                                Member
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 894

                                Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
                                when deep down we all know he has single-handedly created the Macedono/Albano Federation that some nostalgics refer to as Macedonia.
                                Single handedly? I thought the signatories to the 2001 capitulation agreement would have been single handedly responsible when they chose the path of Macedonia...

                                Or maybe you can single handedly blame the people in Macedonia for not stopping it, or then again Macedonians world wide for largely watching by...

                                btw. the eurocrats can burn in hell
                                Makedonija vo Srce

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