Branko Crvenkovski - The Traitor

[Prolet]

Serdare, There is no need to point fingers at Bill, i dont see how blaming him or anybody else on this forum will make any difference.

Its a national problem and i think we are in a far better position then we were 10 years ago, we have UCK Terrorists in Tanusevci walking around with Machine Guns. People are walking in and out of Kosovo like there is no border there, i think tighter security needs to be put into place.

[Serdarot]

astibo, za to vo 2001va si vo pravo, vojnata ja dobivme, za posle da ne prinudat na kapitulacija...

samo "kengurite" em aber nemat sho se slucvase, em serkat nesto sme bile picki, ova, ona...

a grevot za jadenjeto lajna paushalno protiv Makedoncite, posebno plukanjeto protiv branitelite, neka bidi negov (na bill) i na drugite plukaci.

i del od tekstot ti e tamam, sds + nejzinite sateliti + open society na milchin i soros + site drugi kodoshki, ne-makedonski i anti-makedonski elementi mozat da soberat lugje, ama ne go gledaj grujo ko vojvoda, poso da beshe vojvoda, poinakov muabet ke praevme denes

prolet, I donīt blame anyone

it is a fact that some of us donīt want to face it, that we share part of the guilt for the present situation in which the Macedonian State and the Macedonians are in...

[Serdarot]

i daj zemete ogledalo, ko zborate za "blaming others"!

you blame the Macedonians in RoM for being "pichki" and "cowards" , and you speak about blaming?

lol

glupi deca...

[Bill77]

i daj zemete ogledalo, ko zborate za "blaming others"!

you blame the Macedonians in RoM for being "pichki" and "cowards" , and you speak about blaming?

lol

glupi deca...

zajeban ti regov dosta so gluposti i have been critical of the diaspora and there are people here that can vouch for me.

Can you do the same?

prolet, I donīt blame anyone

except for the diaspora who count there houses

kakvi zborovi od eden makedonec!!! "SME BILE PICKI U 2001"
Prijatele, vo 2001 teroristite izgubija vo sekoja bitka

da imashe heroj shto se boreja za Makedonia. ama i imashe pitchi shto se krieja pod krevet. kje ti dam broj na eden braced i prashajgo od mene ako sakash "oti se krijashe pod krevet koga ropaja na vrata da to barat za borba"? neje samo toj. ama isto kje ima takvi pitchki od diasporata shto kje se krijat ako gi pokanish za da se vratat da krenat pushka za to priznavam. dali mozite vie da bidite kritikalni za nekoj gragjanite od republikata?

Prijatele, vo 2001 teroristite izgubija vo sekoja bitka

pak kje kazam za istoto
ako bilo taka shto dzvaka lajna seradot kaj beja diasporata da pomozat?

ajjj zaborav kujkite i kolite si brojaja

[Prolet]

Astibo, People are afraid that Nikola Gruevski will cave in and change our name, im skeptical myself but he is by far the best option we have at this moment. Ljubco is the biggest traitor in 2001, even Ali Ahmeti turned out to be a bigger patriot then him when he rejected his call to exchange our territory with him.

Serdare, People are very emotional about this issue, the thing that hurts me the most is that UCK scum destroying our memorial graves time and time again and our government is acting like everything is OK, i just cant believe it if somebody went and scratched anything from UCK there would be an uproar from these people.

[Serdarot]

zajeban ti regov dosta so gluposti i have been critical of the diaspora and there are people here that can vouch for me.

Can you do the same?

lol

daj zboraj Makedonski

znajs Makedonski?

kako ti e imeto?

Bill?

Bale?

Billjana?

uste ednas, prijatelski sovet, odi pomocaj se, ili izmi se, napraj nesto, ne jadi lajna...

[astibo]

Bill, ti bi trebalo da znaes deka sekade postojat razlicni karakteri, i da se tvrdi deka vo mkd makedoncite se site junaci e cista glupost.
Otprilika situacijata e vakva i toa vazi za site:
okolu 10% ima tvrdokorni patrioti, okolu 10% se onie za koi nisto ne e sveto, ostanatite 80% se onie koi sakaat ubav i miren zivot i koi bi mozele da bidat zavedeni polesno. Ovie brojki sekako deka ne se tocni tuku gi davam kako primer, znaci mal del od naselenieto se junaci pa zatoa i se vozdignati od drugite, isto taka mal del se i predavnici pa se osudeni od sirokata masa. Najgolemiot del od lugeto sakaat miren zivot za sebe i za svoite bliski. Se znae deka ima razraboteni mehanizmi so koi se deluva na sirokata masa i se stvara nekoja svest. Na primer ako gi zememe grcite ke vidime deka kaj niv kako rezultat na nivnoto skolstvo i slicno, imaat razvieno nekoj si kompleks na povisoka vrednost (koj voopsto ne mozat da go dokazat). Istoto vazi i za srbite(iako ne do tolku), megutoa tie dolgo vreme vazea kako prv narod vo Jugoslavija a i vo kralstvoto SHS pa zatoa i imaat nekoja preterana samodoverba.
Kaj nas makedoncite, mozam da kazam deka celo vreme se vrsi nekoja antipatriotska propaganda. Za vreme na Jugoslavija se propagiralo jugoslovenstvo, potoa od 91 navaka dodeka Branko bese na vlast narodot ziveese so sekojdnevni zaplasuvanja deka nema da ne bide i sl. I do den denesen ima eden kup nevladini organizacii i propagandisti koi zemaat nadvoresni pari i propagiraat antimakedonstvo kaj nas. No i pokraj seto ova sepak ima eden golem procent(daleku nad 10%) golemi patrioti, nesto sto ne moze da se unisti i po tolku vreme na propagandi i vlijanija.
Poentata mi e, Makedoncite kade i da se dali vo makedonija ili vo stranstvo se tie istite. Edinstvena razlika e sto ziveele vo podrugi uslovi i poradi toa imaat razvieno i podruga svest. Znaci ako nie vo mkd sme picki, togas i vie iselenicite ste picki, zatoa sto sme ist narod. Ama toa sekako ne e taka.

[Prolet]

Brate, I agree entirely and here is proof how they do it, buses come to their work and they must get on to protest as its shown on this video footage below.

YouTube - КаКÐū ÐĄÐ”ÐĄÐœ ŅÐūÐąÐļŅ€Ð°Ð° ÐŧŅƒŅ“Ðĩ за ОÐļŅ‚ÐļÐ―ÐģÐūŅ‚

[Prolet]

Here is Nikola Gruevski's reaction about the SDSM Rally.

http://sitel.com.mk/video/makedonija/premierot-gruevski-za-protestniot-marsh-na-sdsm-1-del

http://sitel.com.mk/video/makedonija/premierot-gruevski-za-protestniot-marsh-na-sdsm-2-del

[julie]

Shto pravite vaka be lujge, za stramota, eden so drug se jadime kako kuchina.
Serdarot, tolku smeshno ti e tebe whto nemozhime da zboruvame pravilno Makedonski, rodeni poveke 45 godini vo strantsvo? Shto ti e tolku smeshno be chovek?
Za mene ke ti kazhuvam edna prilika.
Od Egejskiot del mi e poteklotot. Grchki trebashe da zboruvashe majkami, sireche rasteno, dedomi beshe izguban 8 godini, da go zakolot za toj jazik Makedonskot. Baba machena, i ubiena po zatvorite grchki, tetka begalka, vujche mal go ostavia za mrtov bien machen kako ristos so shajki na 13 godini. Druga tetka, izparchea, po arno da je otepaja.
Pravilno Makedonski ne gi uchea.
Stram na tebe, ne na mene ili Bill shto nemozhime kako tebe da zboruvame.
Vie po Tito ste krstevte tseli, ne im beshe gajle za maltsinstvata vo Egej

I sega, toa maltsinstvo od Egej poteklo, se smejete, stram da vi e, shto ne sakat da ja dadat toa parche slobodna shto ostana.

Mislam me razbervate po mojete smeshno makedonski, shto poveke probuvam i se macham da kazham


I can translate into my perfect English my very bad Macedonian whoever does not understand it

[Bratot]

Bogami za sramota, no i za greota.

[julie]

In 2001, many Macedonians had difficulty in obtaining passports from Australia to travel to Macedonia.
Until 12 months ago, we have had the revelation Macedonia was at war.

I would like the insults to stop now please. It does not matter how we speak the language, where we were born, if we identify as Macedonian, then we have the right to want to defend and protect the one piece left
We are sinking neck deep in shit river without a paddle.
the personal attacks and abuse amongst each other must stop

And its time Macedonians in the Republic take some responsibility for where they are today. Because if they continue to attack the diaspora with their rants on where they are, Macedonia will cease to exist, for good.
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[Bill77]

Otprilika situacijata e vakva i toa vazi za site:
okolu 10% ima tvrdokorni patrioti,

dobro znam deka ovie brojki shto davash deka ne se tochni tuku se kako primer. ama kolku da je ima malce tvrdokorni patrioti i nema buna za toa sega kako mozi to da se smeni za pojke narod da se svrtat na strana da bidat tvrdokorni patrioti?

is it in anyway constructive to point fingers at the diaspora or would it be more constructive if those from the republic get there own house in order first such as promoting patriotism and unity (same applies for the diaspora we are not much better)

Poentata mi e, Makedoncite kade i da se dali vo makedonija ili vo stranstvo se tie istite. Edinstvena razlika e sto ziveele vo podrugi uslovi i poradi toa imaat razvieno i podruga svest.

e da si ziv

Znaci ako nie vo mkd sme picki, togas i vie iselenicite ste picki, zatoa sto sme ist narod.

da isto narod sne. ti rekov ima heroj vo republikata shto ze borat za tatkovinata so ce ili bez diasporata. ama ima dosta shto kje si gi prodat prvoto chedo a tie kje kolnat po diasporata. toa ne se trpi.

[Bill77]

Bogami za sramota, no i za greota.

ok kje te poslusham

I would like the insults to stop now please. It does not matter how we speak the language, where we were born, if we identify as Macedonian, then we have the right to want to defend and protect the one piece left
We are sinking neck deep in shit river without a paddle.
the personal attacks and abuse amongst each other must stop

and you to Jules

[makedonin]

Poentata mi e, Makedoncite kade i da se dali vo makedonija ili vo stranstvo se tie istite. Edinstvena razlika e sto ziveele vo podrugi uslovi i poradi toa imaat razvieno i podruga svest. Znaci ako nie vo mkd sme picki, togas i vie iselenicite ste picki, zatoa sto sme ist narod. Ama toa sekako ne e taka.

Bravo be Shtipjanec! Super go reche seto toa!

Ja bi rekol deka site nie sme pichki oti sakame da se napraveme golemi heroji, ama ko dojde kamen na kamen, togajka site podvieme opasho!

Aj sega nekoj neka me ubede u sprotivnoto!