Nikola Gruevski

[Traveller]

From the book :"In the shadow of Macedonia"

Visiting Belgrade on September 1971 the Greek minister for foreign affairs (my note, there was military junta in Greece these days) Ksanthopoulos-Palamas answered to his Ju colleague who asked for the recognition of a Macedonian nation : " Athens is applying the international law and want to have relations with Yu as a state , not with its individual republikas. If in the future a consisting part of Yu acquires independance then we 'll deal with it. As for the Macedonian minority in Greece, it does not exist. In Northern Greece exist onle few slavic speakers.After the 1st world war the people who didnt feel Greeks left for Bulgaria. During the Greek civil war all those who didnt feel Greeks were expelled. "

[Risto the Great]

The Socialist Republic of Macedonia was safe and sound under the control of Yugoslavia. There was no issue then.
Look at what freedom has done.

Yeah, it has brought out every insecurity Greece has ever had in its short existence. I can't wait for the next chapter.

[Traveller]

Someone forgot to notify the U.N that all those years ago - Greece officially referred to it as the "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" - between 1945 and the break up of Yugoslavia. FYROM was a huge step backwards, but nobody bothered to raise this point.

Greece created a name dispute, where there wasn't one.

I don't believe the Greek media.

Since Republika Makedonija was founded in 1945 of course there wasn't such a problem.

[Venom]

No Traveller, before greece came into the possession of 51% of Macedonia's territory there was no problem.

You deserve a broken jaw if you really think Macedonia was founded in 1945 you piece of shit.

[Daskalot]

Since Republika Makedonija was founded in 1945 of course there wasn't such a problem.

One more time I see a sneer like this one, you will be shown the door, the REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA, please or goodbye, your choice.

[Traveller]

One more time I see a sneer like this one, you will be shown the door, the REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA, please or goodbye, your choice.

I was referring to Nezavisna Republika Makedonija or something like that. The province of Jugoslavija. For anything else i will stick to UN negotiations' result. Till then i respect your right to call yourselves as you like.

[Traveller]

Now , what has happened because it is making big headlines in Greece. It seems that a friend of Greece in Washington intercepted a message of a former US ambassador to Skopje (i didnt understand well, i think they said she which was sent to US goverment and the Army (!!!???). In this message it is clear that the last Nimitz's proposal is a product of negotiations between US officials and Gruevski and it was served to Nimitz. I remind you that Nimitz is appointed by UN not the Americans...What the message said: The name will be North Macedonia and the ethnicity and language Macedonian. The trick was that they would appear for UN approval only the name and that the ethnicity and language would appear in annexes to the UN security counsil in which there would be no veto or voting and Greece could not intervene. The socialist party in Greece today say that Mr Nimitz's role is murky and he must give explanations. He denied to do so at the time we are talking. It seems that Greece has a grave enemy who is called the "Bush administration".

[Daskalot]

I was referring to Nezavisna Republika Makedonija or something like that. The province of Jugoslavija. For anything else i will stick to UN negotiations' result. Till then i respect your right to call yourselves as you like.

Sir that is really not how it works here, you are in our house then you WILL refer to us as how the MASTER of the house wishes, katalaves re gyftoi?

UN will never change how WE MACEDONIANS refer to our country.

Please tell me if I shall ban you now or in 5 minutes.

[Traveller]

Sir that is really not how it works here, you are in our house then you WILL refer to us as how the MASTER of the house wishes, katalaves re gyftoi?

UN will never change how WE MACEDONIANS refer to our country.

Please tell me if I shall ban you now or in 5 minutes.

Oi giftoi gamisane ti mana soy kai bgikes esi.

[makedonin]

oi giftoi gamisane ti mana soy kai bgikes esi.

Ποτό δηλητήριο και να πεθάνει σας γιφτοι

[Daskalot]

Oi giftoi gamisane ti mana soy kai bgikes esi.

Bravos vre megale, now you will be banned. Yassas Traveller......

[Venom]

Good riddance to a bad smelling pile of shit.

Grkomani are some of the worst kinds of humans.

[Pelister]

Just read the news that Gruevski had a number of attempts on his life in the past year.

The Macedonians have so many enemies - it could have been anyone. Greeks, Albanians, Europeans ... who knows.

[Rogi]

It's Macedonians. The underground/mafia and those who support an opposing ideology.

[Royal Hellas]

Don't forget they could have been Bulgarian as well.