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  • makedonche
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2008
    • 3242

    This is a good measure of his dedication to the Macedonian Identity

    [QUOTE]Maybe this is an emotional component of the story of the struggle with Greece? No, says Gruevski; until recently he was never that interested in the story. Nor, he says, did he feel especially moved when he visited the ancestral village in 2001[/QUOTE]
    On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"

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    • Risto the Great
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 15658

      If only Macedonia had a leader.
      Risto the Great
      MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
      "Holding my breath for the revolution."

      Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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      • Jankovska
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 1774

        Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
        If only Macedonia had a leader.
        If only.....

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        • Mikail
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 1338

          Macedonia MPs Back Gruevski's New Team

          Macedonia MPs Back Gruevski's New Team
          After a two-day debate, parliamentarians on Thursday night gave the thumbs up to Prime Minister Nikola Gruevski's cabinet.


          After an at times bitter debate, 70 of the 123 MPs in Macedonia's parliament supported the new government led by Nikola Gruevskis centre-right VMRO DPMNE party, while 47 voted against.

          Gruevski won the chance to form the new government after his party came first in the June 5 early general election.

          In his speech to lawmakers, Gruevski pledged to concentrate on economic growth, promising growth rates of up to 7 per cent a year by the end of his term in 2015.

          He promised a sterner fight against corruption and renewed efforts to improve ethnic relations. He said his team would seek to strengthen education, science and especially the IT sector, which is one of countrys fastest growing areas.

          Gruevski said he remained commited to getting his country into the EU and into NATO. Membership of both clubs has been stalled by a long-standing dispute with neighbouring Greece over the country's name, to which Greece objects.

          "The government is prepared to resume dialogue (with Greece) based on the already determined strategy and principle, Gruevski said.

          Both countries are currently engaged in UN-brokered talks on a compromise solution.

          But the Prime Minister said Macedonia would never seek a solution to the "name" dispute at any price.

          The government will not accept a change to Macedonia's constitutional name, or ideas and proposals that endanger Macedonia's identity, nation and language, Gruevski said.

          Any possible compromise reached in UN-mediated talks would go to a referendum, he added.

          The main opposition Social Democrats said that Gruevski's new team predominantly comprised the same names as the last one, and offered no guarantee of a better performance.

          The Social Democrats criticized Gruevski for stalling the EU and NATO integration process and lambasted what they called growing political intrusion into the economy and erosion of basic freedoms. They accused his team of fostering corruption.

          Gruevski has been the Prime Minister of Macedonia since 2006. VMRO DPMNE and its ethnic Albanian partner in government, the Democratic Union for Integration, DUI, have been in coalition since 2008. Albanians make up about a quarter of the population.
          From the village of Ppezhani, Tashko Popov, Dimitar Popov-Skenderov and Todor Trpenov were beaten and sentenced to 12 years prison. Pavle Mevchev and Atanas Popov from Vrbeni and Boreshnica joined them in early 1927, they were soon after transferred to Kozhani and executed. As they were leaving Lerin they were heard to shout "With our death, Macedonia will not be lost. Our blood will run, but other Macedonians will rise from it"

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          • Mikail
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 1338

            Why continue the dialogue with Greece if you are not prepared to heal to their demands?

            But thanks for clarifying the name is not up for negotiation.

            But oh, oh! The referendum is still on the table??

            What the........
            From the village of Ppezhani, Tashko Popov, Dimitar Popov-Skenderov and Todor Trpenov were beaten and sentenced to 12 years prison. Pavle Mevchev and Atanas Popov from Vrbeni and Boreshnica joined them in early 1927, they were soon after transferred to Kozhani and executed. As they were leaving Lerin they were heard to shout "With our death, Macedonia will not be lost. Our blood will run, but other Macedonians will rise from it"

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            • Soldier of Macedon
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 13670

              It's like a pathetic drama playing out in front of our eyes, with UMD-style contradictions. It begins with a bit of useless hot air like the below, with the typical ambiguity one has come to expect from this jester:
              “The government will not accept a change to Macedonia's constitutional name, or ideas and proposals that endanger Macedonia's identity, nation and language,” Gruevski said.
              Tough words from a plastic patriot. But then......
              Any possible compromise reached in UN-mediated talks would go to a referendum, he added.
              So which one is it? Compromise or no compromise? Obviously the second option:
              "The government is prepared to resume dialogue (with Greece) based on the already determined strategy and principle,” Gruevski said.
              Dialogue for compromise. Otherwise, there is no need for dialogue, especially when we are all aware what Greece's stance is. Yet Gruevski continues to drag the Macedonian people through this shameful process in search of a mutually 'acceptable' solution.
              In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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              • Risto the Great
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 15658

                70 of the 123 MPs in Macedonia obviously supported ethnic Albanians heading the Justice and Defense ministries. They would have been lined up and shot back in the Ilinden days.
                Risto the Great
                MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                • Mikail
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 1338

                  Not only that RTG, the leader of the Albanian Party can't garantee peace in Macedonia if war breaks out in Kosovo.

                  So in essence, the minister of Justice & Defence supports an Albanian uprising??
                  From the village of Ppezhani, Tashko Popov, Dimitar Popov-Skenderov and Todor Trpenov were beaten and sentenced to 12 years prison. Pavle Mevchev and Atanas Popov from Vrbeni and Boreshnica joined them in early 1927, they were soon after transferred to Kozhani and executed. As they were leaving Lerin they were heard to shout "With our death, Macedonia will not be lost. Our blood will run, but other Macedonians will rise from it"

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                  • George S.
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 10116

                    Mikhail i'm totally shocked & i'm expecting arms being given to kosovo & our troops to be fighting for the albanian cause.If they can't deliver peace or do any of their functions they shouls step back & let someone who can.What is gruevski doing to stop the albanian factor in the corruption issue nothing.
                    "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                    GOTSE DELCEV

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                    • Risto the Great
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 15658

                      Originally posted by Mikail View Post
                      Not only that RTG, the leader of the Albanian Party can't garantee peace in Macedonia if war breaks out in Kosovo.

                      So in essence, the minister of Justice & Defence supports an Albanian uprising??
                      No, in essence Gruevski does by forming a government with these people. For this he will be remembered as a traitor to the Macedonian people.
                      Risto the Great
                      MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                      "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                      Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                      • DedoAleko
                        Member
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 969

                        Груевски ги кажа црвените линии

                        Груевски ги кажа црвените линии за името

                        - Нема промена на уставното име. Ајде сите да се обединиме ова да бидат нашите црвени линии. Членството во ЕУ и НАТО е нужно, но без решенија кои ќе создадат нови историски фрустрации и репресија врз националното битие, изјави Премиерот на синошната прослава.

                        Груевски за прв пат јавно ги кажа македонските црвени линии во спорот со името. Македонија нема да прифати уставни промени, промена на јазикот и нацијата.

                        Според аналитичарите ова е единствено прифатлива позиција за Македонија. Промената на уставот би значело агресија и директен упад на Грција во македонскиот суверенитет.

                        Уставот е акт кој ја чини Република Македонија држава. Ако се откажеме од него и дозволиме некоја друга држава која има Влада како израз на нејзините граѓани, да ни го формулира Уставот, тогаш ние не сме Република Македонија, ниту некој друг, туку ние сме Грција, коментира Слободан Чашуле, поранешен министер за надворешни работи.

                        Компромисот, аналитичарите го гледаат во ново име, но единстевено за меѓународна комуникација. Останува спорно што Грците подразбираат под ерга оменс, или севкупна употреба и колку се подготвени да отстапат од ова нивно барање.

                        Ако тоа ерга омнес продолжи да виси така без прецизно дефинирање може да значи насекаде. Тоа значи дека и во домашните ДВД клубови во членските карти ќе ни стои името кое Грција ни го дала.

                        Што значи ерга омнес? Ке ја натераме Кина да го смени актот за признавање на Република Македонија?
                        НАТО, ЕУ, ООН и Светската Трговска Организација, тоа е меѓународна употреба. Ако така се дефинира ерга омнес за нас е прифатливо, вели Чашуле.

                        Дефинирањето на вакaвта позиција и повикот за обединување во спорот со името, според Чашуле доаѓа во вистински, пригоден и исторски момнет за Македонија.

                        Изненадува фактот што по долго време молк од Папандреу, грчкиот министер за надворешни Ставрос Ламбринидис, изрази оптимизам дека спорот може набрзо да се реши и дека македонскиот идентитет не бил предмет на преговори.

                        Ги поместува ли Грција линиите, или ова е уште еден сигнал на лажна волја во пресрет на њујоршките средби со Нимиц?

                        izvor: http://sitel.com.mk/dnevnik/makedoni...linii-za-imeto

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                        • DedoAleko
                          Member
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 969

                          Историски говор на Никола Груевски - YouTube

                          Video of his speech

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                          • George S.
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 10116

                            well gruevski is a damn liar if he is genuine by what he says then he should withdraw from the name discussions why because he has lied he told greece that they are prepared to change the name to rom(dkopje).What a lying low life he is don't beleive him at all.I regard the liar as a treasonous traitor the same level as gligorov.He should stop lying to himself & to his people of macedonia.
                            Last edited by George S.; 09-09-2011, 03:23 PM. Reason: ed
                            "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                            GOTSE DELCEV

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                            • Vangelovski
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 8532

                              This is the same BS he's been saying so far - vague, contradictory statements about not changing the constitution. The only new thing was the comment from some "experts" about having a new "international" name...which fits with Gruevski's "promise" not to change the constitution - i.e., Macedonia for domestic use only. As we have suspected for a while at the MTO.
                              If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

                              The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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                              • DedoAleko
                                Member
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 969

                                Is that A LOAD OF CRAP coming out of that mans mouth or what!?!?

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