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  • Prolet
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    A mislis deka tie ne znaat? I te kako znaat

    We should be pushing for as many countries as possible to recognize us.

    Pero Stojanovski should be on the plane and go through the other countries in the pacific to push for name recognition. I was shocked when i found out that we still havnt established diplomatic relations with South Africa and South Korea.

    The rest are countries/entities that have no diplomatic relations with the state[251]: Bahamas, Barbados, Bhutan, Fiji, Georgia, Grenada, Guyana, Kiribati, Lebanon, Liberia, Mali, Malta, Monaco, Namibia, Palau, Palestinian Authority, Papua New Guinea, Philippines, Sahrawi Republic, Saint Kitts and Nevis, San Marino, Solomon Islands, South Korea, Syria, Tonga, Trinidad and Tobago, Tunisia, Tuvalu and Zimbabwe.


    We have troops stationed in Lebanon yet we dont have diplomatic relations established there?? Unbelievable what is our MNR doing..

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  • Bratot
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    Originally posted by Jankovska View Post
    I was hoping they do, it's not a list they want to loose. Why is it not public?

    Zatoa sto ne mora se da se znae javno, ciganite ako ja imaat celata lista ke pritiskaat na zemjite koi veke ne priznale da se povlecat.

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  • Jankovska
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    Originally posted by Rogi View Post
    The Macedonian Government and Foreign Ministry have the full and complete list. They just don't make it public.
    I was hoping they do, it's not a list they want to loose. Why is it not public?

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  • Rogi
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    The Macedonian Government and Foreign Ministry have the full and complete list. They just don't make it public.

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  • Jankovska
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    And you would think such list would be a priority for MNR and the gov/

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  • Prolet
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    That list is questionable, ive seen others where countries are missing some are there that shouldnt be and so forth. MNR hasnt officially put up a list of the countries, however Israel is one of them thats for sure and so far 127 countries have recognized us.

    Bill77, Blagojche is the Macedonian name for Bill, just like Pavle is for Paul

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  • Bill77
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    Originally posted by Prolet View Post
    Blagojche, Israel recognized our name a long time ago
    Thats good to hear Prolet. But i also made a point its not listed on this thread. Well not on the first page anyway. I asumed it would be updated. Also why do you Keep calling me Blagojche???

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  • Prolet
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    Blagojche, Israel recognized our name a long time ago

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  • Bill77
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    I don't see Isreal on the list. check out this news report,


    PM Gruevski meets Israeli President Peres


    "PM Gruevski assessed that Macedonia and Israel share good relations and understanding, with a number of projects realized following the opening of a Macedonian Embassy in Tel Aviv."
    Israel and Macedonia are friendly countries sharing excellent cooperation, assessed Israeli President Shimon Peres and Macedonian Prime Minister Nikola Gruevski at Tuesday



    opening of an embassy almost sugests recognition. But would love confirmation and see what is writen in front of the building? "Republic Of Macedonia" or something else

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  • Prolet
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    Tajnata Kniga, The Greek Population is even larger.

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  • TajnataKniga
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    Ironically, having the largest Macedonian population, Australia still does not recognize Macedonia. This is sad.

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  • Phoenix
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    Originally posted by Sovius View Post
    Some excellent points Phoenix. The UN has an obligation to follow its own charter, which acknowledges a nation’s right to determine how it will be referred to internationally. As a democratic nation, the government of the Republic of Macedonia has an obligation to carry out the will of its citizens, who have already stated their position. If NATO or the EU really wanted Macedonia to join as a nation on equal footing, Macedonia would already be in these organizations. The negotiation process is simply a way for western nations to continue to politically validate (seemingly legitimize) the original act of partition. The media keeps stressing that Greece has a region named Macedonia, as well, and completely ignores the initial occupation of Macedonia, itself. Arguments based on the omission of facts aren’t really arguments at all. They have no case. They never did. If Macedonia wants in, it has to cement the partition, itself. Pretty cruel, if you ask me. The UN is constitutionally bound to accept whatever is acceptable to the people of Macedonia. Could someone please explain why a vote is necessary? If France is a member of the UN, then isn’t it contractually bound to accept Macedonia as Macedonia or do they not have to follow this charter? The Socialist Republic of Macedonia was a sovereign nation when it broke away from the Yugoslavian Federation, not a breakaway territory that just appeared out of nowhere.
    Hi Sovius,

    Can I just add to your post that the Yugoslav Federation was one of the founding members of the UN and therefor Macedonia by its Yugoslav Federation association should have greater worth than to be treated like some petty 'upstart' placed at the back of the queue...

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  • George S.
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    Skopje _ Macedonia will not set any preconditions for recognising Kosovo’s independence, Macedonia’s Deputy Prime Minister Abdulakim Ademi insists.

    His statement came after on Monday Kosovo’s top officials slammed Macedonia’s President Branko Crvenkovski’s suggestion that Pristina should first recognise Skopje’s name ‘Republic of Macedonia’ and complete the demarcation of their mutual border, before Macedonia moves on recognising the independence of Kosovo. Read more: http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/main/news/12950

    “The President’s statement was politically motivated and was intended to complicate relations with Kosovo,” Ademi said.

    However, Macedonia’s Prime Minister and ruling centre-right VMRO DPMNE party leader, Nikola Gruevski was not specific regarding this issue. He only noted that at the moment the government had other priorities regarding Kosovo than the recognition of its status.

    Meanwhile Crvenkovski on Wednesday reiterated his stance.

    “It is in Macedonia’s interest that the border with Kosovo be marked completely, fairly and on time as well as that Kosovo recognises our constitutional name with no exceptions,” Crvenkovski told media.

    Neither Kosovo nor Macedonia officials speculated on a date when Macedonia would recognise Kosovo.

    Ademi said that this move requires “the right atmosphere” in Skopje. Ademi's party, the Democratic Union for Integration, is the main ethnic Albanian partner in Gruevski's government.Isn't it quaint they were originally wanting to take over Macedonia completely.

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  • Sovius
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    Some excellent points Phoenix. The UN has an obligation to follow its own charter, which acknowledges a nation’s right to determine how it will be referred to internationally. As a democratic nation, the government of the Republic of Macedonia has an obligation to carry out the will of its citizens, who have already stated their position. If NATO or the EU really wanted Macedonia to join as a nation on equal footing, Macedonia would already be in these organizations. The negotiation process is simply a way for western nations to continue to politically validate (seemingly legitimize) the original act of partition. The media keeps stressing that Greece has a region named Macedonia, as well, and completely ignores the initial occupation of Macedonia, itself. Arguments based on the omission of facts aren’t really arguments at all. They have no case. They never did. If Macedonia wants in, it has to cement the partition, itself. Pretty cruel, if you ask me. The UN is constitutionally bound to accept whatever is acceptable to the people of Macedonia. Could someone please explain why a vote is necessary? If France is a member of the UN, then isn’t it contractually bound to accept Macedonia as Macedonia or do they not have to follow this charter? The Socialist Republic of Macedonia was a sovereign nation when it broke away from the Yugoslavian Federation, not a breakaway territory that just appeared out of nowhere.

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  • Phoenix
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    Originally posted by Rogi View Post
    Of the top 20 economies (G20), or the 20 most powerful nations, there are 6 who do not yet recognise our Constitutional name.

    They are:
    Australia,
    France,
    Germany,
    Italy,
    South Africa,
    South Korea

    Australia is heavily influenced by the Greek Lobby (a very difficult position to change)

    France is a strong supporter of Greece due to their own (economic and strategic) interests.

    As for Italy, I suspect they will be changing their position very soon with Franco Frattini (Italian Foreign Minister) becoming more and more a friend of Macedonia and the Rights of the Macedonians.

    I also expect Germany to follow shortly thereafter, with more and more of their politicians expressing support for Macedonia in the 'name dispute' and a growing German interest in Kosovo weighing in on this too.

    South Africa is yet to open an embassy or consulate in Macedonia and our relations with them are still undeveloped to any substantial level and their Diplomatic relations with Macedonia go through their Embassy in Athens (an obvious factor).

    South Korea (or Republic of Korea) and the Republic of Macedonia have not established any diplomatic relations as yet. Though, once this happens, South Korea is very much prepared to use our Constitutional name (as they already do)
    http://www.mofat.go.kr/english/regio...23/1_1299.jsp?
    South Africa is an interesting example of Macedonian non-recognition, I believe its a case very similar to the Australian example that can be mainly explained by influence of powerful greek lobby action.

    Although the greek South African community is relatively small it has one extremely powerful individual within its ranks...

    George Bizos

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