Albania withdraws FYROM reference from government's website

[Rogi]

Royal Hellas,

What does the recognition of human and minority rights, including that of SELF-determination, of your OWN citizens, have to do with a dispute with a separate nation?

I'm sorry bout what makes you think these things are tied or should be tied?

Since when are Human Rights, conditional?

[Rogi]

Pelister, they're doing it for their own interests.

They need the Greek parliament to ratify Albania's accession to NATO, so they are pandering to the Greeks until they have that ratification.

[Risto the Great]

Ethnic and language aspects have not been recently added by the RoM Government.
Prove one instance where this is the case.
Why do "dogs" keep suggesting that once the name issue is resolved, then the minority in Greece will be acknowledged? Why a "stage 2" after this acknowledgment?

[Royal Hellas]

Liar. 12 hours ago you said all that needs to happen is for a name to be settled on. Now it will have a "stage 2". This is why you can't negotiate with dogs.

The name settlement will be the reference point on which the ethnic/language aspects (that have recently been added by the RoM government) will be referenced to.
The Interim agreement between both countries started with the name only, but this stage 2 including minorities has been placed on the agenda as well by the RoM.
Whats that about negotiating with dogs?

[Pelister]

I'm really disappointed in Albania. What good reasons could they have for refusing to recognize the Macedonians ?

[Risto the Great]

When the countries name changes, Greece will look at sorting out the language/ethnicity issues that will arise.
This will be stage 2 of the Macedonian question that is being played out here.

Liar. 12 hours ago you said all that needs to happen is for a name to be settled on. Now it will have a "stage 2". This is why you can't negotiate with dogs.

[Royal Hellas]

When the countries name changes, Greece will look at sorting out the language/ethnicity issues that will arise.
This will be stage 2 of the Macedonian question that is being played out here.

[Royal Hellas]

Could it be that taking the Australian govt to court is the reason they don't recognise the country as yet?

[Rogi]

No buddy, our ethnicity and language is recognised as Macedonian in Australia. You're talking about the name of the Republic of Macedonia - but even if the Republic changed the ethnicity, language, etc ... we'd still be 'Macedonian' in Australia, because we have a right to self-determination and we'd take legal action against the Australian Government (note we have already done this, and won, hence the language is now Macedonian).

[Royal Hellas]

Yes the UN interim, although there is a hive of activity even as we type.

[Risto the Great]

The UN Stage?

http://macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?t=182

[Royal Hellas]

Of course you exist here.
Its just the identity label is still at the UN interim stage.
The sooner this is decided the better, don't you think?

[Risto the Great]

Top 10 languages in Australia and we don't exist here.
Spare me.
All done to appease the Greeks here in Australia. It won't continue much longer. There is a reason for this.

[Royal Hellas]

I didn't say they don't exist. Don't attempt to twist my words SOM. Accept the reality I have experienced here.
Maybe the Maks back then didn't openly define themselves as such, how do you know what they called themselves.
Today the Macedonians all over Australia identify as such, no problem, their language is used in the country, but don't turn a blind eye to the fact that the Australian Government offers them no recognition either. There is a reason for this, even if it is a bitter pill to swallow.

[Soldier of Macedon]

So that means they don't exist? Hehehe, you're a joker mate, nothing more.

Macedonians are known all over Australia as Macedonians, the Macedonian language is one of the most used minority languages in the country, please point me to the Yugoslavi people and language that only you seems to see, I am interested to see this evidence of this endangered species apart from your own 'experiences' while creating fictions with uncle Kostas over a few ouzos.