Macedonia & Greece: Name Issue

[vicsinad]

http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/bulgarian-pm-foreign-minister-refuse-meeting-macedonian-president-06-14-2018

The president of Bulgaria said that "Bulgaria should seek guarantees from Macedonia about the deal that will preclude the creation of Macedonian organizations on Bulgarian territory."

It's not a myth that Macedonia is surrounded by four hungry wolves.

[kompir]

To go down in history as the man who sold Macedonia to the greeks is truly an extraordinary play...the collective incompetence and treachery of Macedonia's previous leaders and every known dushman in our history pales into insignificance compared to what this motherfucker has accomplished since coming to power...I can't imagine what price a sane man would demand for this abhorrent conduct.

I'll bet dinner at DD's or Zegov in Melbourne that he is so fundamentally rotten to the core, that he will sleep like a lamb for the rest of his days knowing his treasonous actions has created an infamy which has guaranteed him an immortality of sorts.

[Soldier of Macedon]

http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/arti...ent-06-14-2018

The president of Bulgaria said that "Bulgaria should seek guarantees from Macedonia about the deal that will preclude the creation of Macedonian organizations on Bulgarian territory."

It's not a myth that Macedonia is surrounded by four hungry wolves.

The animals smell blood and the way they're slithering around our tormented Macedonia reminds me of what Theodosius once wrote almost 130 years ago:

......we, the Macedonians, to not suffer as much by the Turks, long live our Padishah, as by the Greeks, the Bulgarians and the Serbs, who have set upon us like vultures upon a carcass in this tortured land and want to split it up.

The moment of truth is fast arriving.

[Phoenix]

I'll bet dinner at DD's or Zegov in Melbourne that he is so fundamentally rotten to the core, that he will sleep like a lamb for the rest of his days knowing his treasonous actions has created an infamy which has guaranteed him an immortality of sorts.

There's something seriously wrong with him that goes beyond simple corruption, no doubt he has been paid a sum for his actions that no amount of money could possibly justify...it's as though he suffers a mental disorder or severe megalomania...I think he's convinced he will 'solve' all of Macedonia's disputes, whether they be political or religious in nature...it's done at lightning quick speed and with no looking back...this man is a cultural and historical wrecking ball...

[Tomche Makedonche]

http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/arti...ent-06-14-2018

The president of Bulgaria said that "Bulgaria should seek guarantees from Macedonia about the deal that will preclude the creation of Macedonian organizations on Bulgarian territory."

It's not a myth that Macedonia is surrounded by four hungry wolves.

I thought they already secured that with their “Friendship” agreement?, it seems no matter the concessions these retards in the Republic make, they will never satisfy the appetite of their neighbours cough... enemies. Who would of thought that?

Why are Macedonians so retarded that they refuse to learn the most basic of lessons from their history?

Take their interactions with Greece for example, Macedonians signed an agreement to give up their flag and negotiate their name on the basis that Greece would not veto their applications to join NATO and the EU. After Macedonia held it end of the agreement, Greece refused to honour its end and Vetoed its applications anyway.

Instead of declaring the agreement null and void, Macedonians have now decided to sign another agreement with Greece, this time agreeing to erase its identity and history in the hope that Greece will not again hinder its applications into NATO and the EU, yet has allowed as part of the new agreement to still give Greece the right to Veto it’s applications if it changes its mind or feels like it after Macedonia has fulfilled it’s part of the agreement... even mentally retarded people have more sense then that, yet here we are...

[Tomche Makedonche]

Another aspect that has yet to be touched on is that the terms of the agreement will force the Macedonian Church to have to change its name as well

[TrueMacedonian]

Together with his ethnic Albanian bedfellows, does Zaev have enough votes to get this across the line in parliament, or does he need some DPNE people to cross over?


By the way, welcome back TM and Struja. You chose a hell of a time to make a reappearance!

Lol yeah wish it was under better circumstances. Thought of you guys when I saw all the news about the predavnik and grk ass licker zaev. Damn shame he’s from Strumica.

[tchaiku]

So is the name change over?
PS.
Was Amphipolis permanently banned?

[Risto the Great]

Naturally we seek to blame the maggot Zaev. But there is a diseased element of the Macedonian population who still salivate at the thought of EU entry and "know" they are still Macedonians no matter what happens to the name. Too many are all for it.

[kompir]

I just had an interesting conversation with my cousin in MKD. He's a policeman there and he says a fair whack of his colleagues are quitting because they don't want to be there when the rioting starts.

[Tomche Makedonche]

Couldn’t help but laugh at this, under the agreement:

MRT will become SMRT... ... lol

[Soldier of Macedon]

https://www.kpvi.com/news/national_news/greek-govt-faces-no-confidence-vote-on-macedonia-name-deal/article_798e2562-e3c0-5172-bf3f-7f8274bb0a99.html

"We are Macedonians and we are here just to maintain and preserve what our ancestors left us," Ivanov said during a visit to neighboring Bulgaria on Thursday. "I swore to preserve the Constitution of Macedonia and that is my obligation." But the visit was overshadowed by the deal with Greece. Bulgaria's prime minister and foreign minister refused to hold meetings with Ivanov because of his opposition to the name deal. And Bulgarian President Rumen Radev said after talks with Ivanov that, in the light of the deal with Greece, Bulgaria should seek to revise aspects of the friendship pact it signed with Macedonia last year.

Nothing less than complete capitulation will satisfy these animals.

I just had an interesting conversation with my cousin in MKD. He's a policeman there and he says a fair whack of his colleagues are quitting because they don't want to be there when the rioting starts.

Apparently there were protests in Skopje and Bitola last night. Not sure how large or if there was any trouble. From the same link above:

Macedonia's conservative main opposition party, which opposes the agreement, called for a protest in the southern town of Bitola on Sunday — when the foreign ministers of Greece and Macedonia are expected to sign the deal near the two countries' border, close to Bitola.

If there are Macedonians in Bitola who respect themselves and their heritage, they should prevent this from happening.

[maco2envy]

We need protests in the diaspora to support Ivanov...

[Niko777]

This is the main reason why Greece want's Macedonia to be called "Northern Macedonia": it's because we already have a "Western Macedonia", "Central Macedonia", and "Eastern Macedonia" in Greece. That would imply a "Northern Macedonia" should belong in Greece too...

[kompir]

This is the main reason why Greece want's Macedonia to be called "Northern Macedonia": it's because we already have a "Western Macedonia", "Central Macedonia", and "Eastern Macedonia" in Greece. That would imply a "Northern Macedonia" should belong in Greece too...

Од некни велеше тyрчинот дека западот од Тyрција бил грчки...