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  • osiris
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 1969

    #46
    thanks ozimak i appreciate your effort

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    • fyrOM
      Banned
      • Feb 2010
      • 2180

      #47
      PS Osiris if you donít already have it you will need the VLC Media Player from http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ if you want to play downloaded you tube clips later.

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      • I of Macedon
        Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 222

        #48
        GREEK AMBASSADOR CALLED UP BECAUSE OF RACIST CHANTS AT GREEK INDEPENDENCE DAY PARADE

        The Macedonian ministry of foreign affairs calls up the Greek ambassador to Macedonia, Alexandra Papadopoulou for a conversation tomorrow because of the racist and anti-Macedonian chants by the Greek army in the independence day parade held in Athens.

        At the meeting with deputy minister Zoran Petrov, Macedonia will leave a protest note and will ask for a formal apology, according to MIA news agency.

        Governmental spokesman Martin Martinovski said at a press conference today that the racist and anti-Macedonian chants do not contribute in any way to building proper neighbourly relations.

        "I dont want to comment too much, but as a principle we judge every manifestation which supports hatred. This will not contribute to the spirit of building good relations with our neighbour", said Martinovski.

        "They are Skopians, they are Albanians, we will make new clothes from their skin", was one of the chants by a unit of Greek soldiers at the parade.

        Greek press reports that the officer of the unit has been suspended and there will be punishments for the soldiers. The minister of civil protection ordered a research and said that no one has the right to spread hatred and xenophobia.

        The Albanian government has also expressed that they will protest to the Greek government.

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        • fyrOM
          Banned
          • Feb 2010
          • 2180

          #49
          The government spokesman Martin Martinovski and the government can fck themselves with the Greek ambassador. When are they going to get it they are not dealing with a country alone. Greece is part of the eu. If Greece does something treat it as the eu did it and complain there directly and loudly in every department and office they can. Dealing directly with Greece is useless. They will only wipe their backsides with the Macedonian words. Do you think anyone is really going to be punished. Publicly yes but then quietly they will be rehired elsewhere because the Greek government personally believes this message otherwise it would never have happened let alone be a repeat of similar events in the past. Their toughs are black and blue from biting on it to stop themselves publicly repeating these politically incorrect words. Why do you think they were said in the first place. To encourage such sentiment in Greece and instil fear in the Macedonians in Greece and Macedonia allthewhile knowing they will be called to apologies. Big sorry big deal. But they still got to achieve there agenda of stirring fear. The Macedonian government should be demanding from the eu what are they going to do about it and what are they going to do to prevent future repeats. For fck sake we are given a perfect opportunity to stick a civia in their ie greek and eu pressure on Macedonia and the first thing the government does is flick a wave from a weak wrist and say oh behave.

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          • fyrOM
            Banned
            • Feb 2010
            • 2180

            #50
            spell check error
            Their toughs should be their tongues

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            • kykypajko
              Banned
              • Apr 2009
              • 52

              #51
              Originally posted by Coolski View Post
              Has the Macedonian government raised this as a serious diplomatic issue? I hate it how our politicians just sit on their hands in these situations. We need statements immediately, as well as letters of protest to Greece, their masters in Berlin and Brussels.
              they're too afraid to....... and the name negotiations continue

              and the western media will continue to write:
              "greece considers fyrom's name offensive and irredentist attempt to gain land"

              "fyrom offended greece by renaming airports after their national hero alexander the great"

              "greece veto fyrom's admission into nato in 2008 because of its name"

              "greece stands willing to compromise and supports fyrom's integration into nato and the eu"

              and we all sit and cry on macedonian forums that the west is out to get us......while dmpne and sdsm cower to brussels even to the point to placate athens

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              • fyrOM
                Banned
                • Feb 2010
                • 2180

                #52
                The army is part of the government and should reflect government policy and hence parades on national holidays are rehearsed and planned and this is not an isolated incident hence directly implicating the government and as Greece is part of the eu it implicates them. What measures have they put in place to prevent such occurrences. Calling for the death and destruction by an eu member on a potential member is not on regardless of the name issue. It is indefensible regardless of statues or naming of airports ect and this point should be made strongly to the eu. Someone making you fell stupid by calling themselves the same name as you in the playground is no excuse for chasing them around the yard with a knife let alone repeatedly. The teacher cannot maintain the moral high ground and at the same time and say well by calling yourself the same name you made them angry what can we do. Then its even equally if not more so inexcusable for the parent of the kid to say at least he didnít get you with the knife and maybe we better not complain to the school in case it gets the bully angry again.

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                • Homer MakeDonski
                  Member
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 103

                  #53
                  Over the weekend His Holiness Erwan Fouťrť got drunk and allowed a protest note for those who "doesn't want to comment too much ".

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                  • Frank
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 687

                    #54
                    Still we wait for a Goverment Response, quickly the opp will vanish.

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                    • makedonche
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 3242

                      #55
                      To all who have posted on this issue, thank you and I agree with most if not all your sentiments!
                      Frank
                      You are so correct - this is an opportunity to expose the true racists to the whole world. The best way is to make an international incident out of it - the ROM Govt. should be jumping on this with both hands and reminding the EU, NATO & UN about fostering good neighbouring relations, which they all advocate we should be doing, so what about the Racist Pigs? aren't they required to contribute to good relations? or is this just another imposition on the Macedonians and not applicable to anyone else?
                      We should all be sending the President an email about our outrage and demand they take the appropriate action. I believe there is a section on the MTO dedicated to the President's/Prime Ministers mailbox, let's all hop on and leave a message or better still start a facebook page and invite them to join!
                      On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"

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                      • osiris
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 1969

                        #56
                        western europe is where modern racism both the theory and practice were invented to justify the slave trade, lest not think that the ruling classes who made their fortune in that most shameful period in world history have changed they havent.

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                        • Prolet
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 5241

                          #57
                          Volk, There is an anti fascist protest in Stari Kraj on 9th of April infront of the Greek Consulate in Skopje. Im guessing they are thinking about the Embassy or the old Greek Consulate.

                          ПРОТЕСТ ПРЕД ГРЧКИОТ КОНЗУЛАТ ВО СКОПЈЕ - ПЕТОК 9 АПРИЛ

                          ВЏАШЕНИ ОД ФАШИСТИЧКИОТ МАРШ НА ГРЧКАТА ВОЈСКА ВО АТИНА . КОАЛИЦИЈАТА МАНАПО ПЛАНИРА МИРЕН ПРОТЕСТ ПРЕД ГРЧКИОТ КОНЗУЛАТ ВО СКОПЈЕ - ПЕТОК 9 АПРИЛ 2010 ОД 20 часот - СО НАСЛОВ ,, СТОП НА ГРЧКИОТ ФАШИЗАМ ,,.
                          МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.

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                          • XRVOL
                            Junior Member
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 84

                            #58


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                            What have the diaspora organisations got to say?

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                            • Mikail
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 1338

                              #59
                              Here is what Neos Kosmos has to say on the issue:



                              Hate Parade

                              28 Mar 2010
                              "Greek born, not 't ever, your blood will chysoume, hog Albania." This and similar creepy heard in downtown Athens, not by members of the "Golden Dawn" demonstrators, but by frogman Special Forces who paraded to the University and St. Constantine in the official military parade on 25 March.
                              As soon as they left the docks at the official Constitution and turned the University of the lads OYK turned the parade in an event reminiscent of right-wing hate progress, with slogans promising a bloody slaughter every neighborhood in Greece and the people decide who qualifies and who called Greek no.
                              The usual suspects "Macedonians, Albanians and Turks had their honor in slogans like the following:" There will be carnage, then revenge, when we worship the flag and cross.
                              Or that creepy: "They say" Skopje ", the Albanians say, my clothes will sew with skin 'of them.
                              One of them was going comfortably between the viewers and those who paraded, first shouting the slogans repeated by the commandos.
                              And they watched the parade and dozens of immigrant families, which will then be asked to answer the reasonable questions of their children "Why so much hate?". As if not the House recently passed the Law on the performance of citizenship to immigrants. As if it has not decided a long time in this country that immigrants may participate in these student parades, especially as standard-bearers.
                              One wonders: How can the Greek army, marching formally drawn to the city center, to challenge our humanity, outlining the country and to blatantly violate the anti-racist law designed to automatically prosecute hate speech? We live in 2010, and even with government socialists, or ALISTON memory seasons, where the military claimed and had another role in the affairs of the country?
                              AVAILABILITY OF A HEAD
                              The Coast Guard owned, ultimately, total 36 frogman who, during the parade celebrating the national holiday of March 25 in the Constitution inadmissible rhythmically chanted slogans
                              I had to spend many hours to find the senior officers of the Coast Guard, which early in the morning and see you again saw the video of shame, that "Ellinarades" frogman was theirs and belonged to the unit underwater missions, located in Agios Kosmas.
                              By late afternoon, the responsible officers of the MYA, but the team leader, who chanted slogans insulting the soon departed from the platform of the official, assured both the chief of the OS, Thanasis Bousio vice admiral, and the Minister Protection of the Citizen Michael ChrisochoÔdis that had nothing to do with the Coast Guard, but the Navy and especially with the Underwater Demolition Team.
                              While near-war to break out internal government, as Minister in the Ministry of Defense and YPROPO not accept that the frogman who chanted racist slogans were their own, thorough and ongoing examination of the video, and information from within, showed that the 36 "Leventis" frogman unit belonging to underwater missions of the Coast Guard, which, as expected, "took off his clothes' as the head of the Port Authority and the Secretary of Citizen Protection, responsible for the ML . S., Michael ChrisochoÔdis.
                              By order of the chief, Vice Admiral Thanasis Bousiou came into immediate availability of the commanding officer of a racist group of uniformed, second officer OS, K. Haralambopoulos, which noted, is "frog" and ordered an urgent and sworn administrative investigation to responsibilities to seek the 36 frogman, while not excluding the reference to the Military Justice.
                              From the village of Pípezhani, Tashko Popov, Dimitar Popov-Skenderov and Todor Trpenov were beaten and sentenced to 12 years prison. Pavle Mevchev and Atanas Popov from Vrbeni and Boreshnica joined them in early 1927, they were soon after transferred to Kozhani and executed. As they were leaving Lerin they were heard to shout "With our death, Macedonia will not be lost. Our blood will run, but other Macedonians will rise from it"

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                              • Mikail
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 1338

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Bratot View Post
                                YouTube - GreQit, Shqiptareve do tjua Derdhim Gjakun!

                                1.Грк се раѓаш не бидуваш , твојата крв ке ја пролееме , свињо албанска.

                                2. Ке биде кланица , ке се одмаздиме , се додека не верувате во црквата и крстот. ( за турците)

                                3. Ги викаат Скопјани , ги викаат албанци , моите алишта ке ги шијам со нивната кожа.
                                At 1:08 a priest is shown shouting:

                                "min tous afis te mas vagane to Egeo"

                                which translates to;

                                "Don't leave them alone, they have eaten our Agean"
                                From the village of Pípezhani, Tashko Popov, Dimitar Popov-Skenderov and Todor Trpenov were beaten and sentenced to 12 years prison. Pavle Mevchev and Atanas Popov from Vrbeni and Boreshnica joined them in early 1927, they were soon after transferred to Kozhani and executed. As they were leaving Lerin they were heard to shout "With our death, Macedonia will not be lost. Our blood will run, but other Macedonians will rise from it"

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