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  • makedonche
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2008
    • 3242

    #46
    Originally posted by Onur View Post
    Thats irrelevant. Probably your grandmother would also cheer for the king Ferdinand of Bulgaria if he would enter Salonika instead of Constantine of Greece.

    When Venizelos entered Izmir after Greek army invaded it in 1919, there was some people cheering for him too. Most likely the same people also cheered for Ataturk in 1922 in the same place. OR If Turkish army would enter Salonika today, i am quite sure that there would be some people in there who cheers for us too.
    Onur
    I can gaurantee that there would be more than "some" cheering!
    On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"

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    • Risto the Great
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 15660

      #47
      Originally posted by Onur View Post
      OR If Turkish army would enter Salonika today, i am quite sure that there would be some people in there who cheers for us too.
      Especially if they were handing out food.
      Risto the Great
      MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
      "Holding my breath for the revolution."

      Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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      • George S.
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 10116

        #48
        guys turkish delights,tolumbi yjey are great.also the turkish pides & turkish sausages.
        Last edited by George S.; 07-06-2012, 08:27 AM. Reason: ed
        "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
        GOTSE DELCEV

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        • Momce Makedonce
          Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 562

          #49
          Can anybody assist in these questions?
          Why did Macedonia join Yugoslavia?


          How did the current Macedonian last names come to be? Also why do some end in “ski” and others in a ” v”?


          Why is the Macedonian language similar to its neighbours such as Serbia, Croatia, Bulgaria?

          Blagodaram
          "The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task." Goce Delcev

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          • Phoenix
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 4671

            #50
            Originally posted by Momce Makedonce View Post
            Can anybody assist in these questions?
            Why did Macedonia join Yugoslavia?


            How did the current Macedonian last names come to be? Also why do some end in “ski” and others in a ” v”?


            Why is the Macedonian language similar to its neighbours such as Serbia, Croatia, Bulgaria?

            Blagodaram
            The word 'disingenuous' keeps flashing before me...

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            • Momce Makedonce
              Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 562

              #51
              Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
              The word 'disingenuous' keeps flashing before me...
              Just questions mate no hidden agenda. Nice to meet you by the way.
              "The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task." Goce Delcev

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              • EgejskaMakedonia
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2010
                • 1665

                #52
                Originally posted by Louis View Post
                I should “brush up on the division of Macedonia”? That’s good. I don’t remember saying that I’m 17 or something. Actually, my grandmother (when she was alive) was taking pride for being present in the cheering crowd when Constantine entered Thessaloniki in 1912, so I was kind of speaking on her behalf. She would never guess she was a “new nation” in Macedonia.
                My age has little relevance to your argument. Neither of us were there to experience the division of Macedonia first-hand. That may have been your Grandmother's opinion on the matter, but it differed from the majority of the local population at the time.

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                • EgejskaMakedonia
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 1665

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
                  The word 'disingenuous' keeps flashing before me...
                  The likes of Brian and a few others have left many of us suspicious, but I think Momce is legit for what it's worth.

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                  • Risto the Great
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 15660

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Momce Makedonce View Post
                    Why did Macedonia join Yugoslavia?
                    It had about the same choice in joining Bulgaria and Greece.

                    Originally posted by Momce Makedonce View Post
                    How did the current Macedonian last names come to be? Also why do some end in “ski” and others in a ” v”?
                    I am sure these names have existed for hundreds of years. I have personal family names that include "ski" and "v" and others. I also suspect many more "ski" names were created during Yugo times as people were slotted neatly into their respective categories.


                    Originally posted by Momce Makedonce View Post
                    Why is the Macedonian language similar to its neighbours such as Serbia, Croatia, Bulgaria?
                    Did it occur to you that this is a much more reasonable outcome than completely different languages as soon as a modern border is crossed? I suspect before the nations of the 1800's were conceived that languages gradually changed as you ventured further from central locations within a region. It still remains true today to a lesser degree.

                    Where are your people from Momce?
                    Risto the Great
                    MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                    "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                    Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                    • Phoenix
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 4671

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Momce Makedonce View Post
                      Just questions mate no hidden agenda. Nice to meet you by the way.
                      Mate, for a 17 year old you come across reasonably 'switched on'.
                      You write very well and you can obviously turn on a computer and navigate your way around the internet.

                      You either understood the meaning of the word 'disingenuous' and its context, or you did some 'research' to determine its meaning.

                      So why not research your questions, instead you've thrown them up for a second time in this thread, even after many posters made an effort to address them.

                      I've been around these forum for quite a few years now not to recognise obvious chook scratchings...

                      But please continue...mate.

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                      • Risto the Great
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 15660

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
                        The word 'disingenuous' keeps flashing before me...
                        In a trench coat no less.
                        Risto the Great
                        MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                        "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                        Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                        • Phoenix
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 4671

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
                          In a trench coat no less.
                          hey, you wanna have a wager on this buddy...how about you put one of your fancy Fenders on the result...???

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                          • Risto the Great
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 15660

                            #58
                            I'm far from being convinced in opposition to you!
                            Risto the Great
                            MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                            "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                            Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                            • Momce Makedonce
                              Member
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 562

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
                              Mate, for a 17 year old you come across reasonably 'switched on'.
                              You write very well and you can obviously turn on a computer and navigate your way around the internet.

                              You either understood the meaning of the word 'disingenuous' and its context, or you did some 'research' to determine its meaning.

                              So why not research your questions, instead you've thrown them up for a second time in this thread, even after many posters made an effort to address them.

                              I've been around these forum for quite a few years now not to recognise obvious chook scratchings...

                              But please continue...mate.
                              Not all teenagers are the same mate. English has always been my best subject so naturally my writing would be pretty efficient. However yes I did search 'disingenuous'.

                              I guarantee you 100% I am Macedonian, 17 years old and live in Sydney Australia. I wouldnt be on this forum if I wasnt. Those particular questions were not answered so I though I should just ask them a second time. I have tried researching them but there are not many websites which cover the questions which I asked.

                              You come across as a bitter type Phoenix. Whether its because you think I am not really who I am saying I am or thats just the way you areI dont know. I am not here to waste my time arguing with fellow Macedonians. I am here to learn and assist where I can.
                              "The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task." Goce Delcev

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                              • Momce Makedonce
                                Member
                                • Jul 2012
                                • 562

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
                                It had about the same choice in joining Bulgaria and Greece.

                                I am sure these names have existed for hundreds of years. I have personal family names that include "ski" and "v" and others. I also suspect many more "ski" names were created during Yugo times as people were slotted neatly into their respective categories.


                                Did it occur to you that this is a much more reasonable outcome than completely different languages as soon as a modern border is crossed? I suspect before the nations of the 1800's were conceived that languages gradually changed as you ventured further from central locations within a region. It still remains true today to a lesser degree.

                                Where are your people from Momce?
                                Thanks for answering those Risto! But what do you mean at the end by "Where are your people from Momce?"
                                "The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task." Goce Delcev

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