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[lavce pelagonski]

TrueMako just listen to this song and you will get why the Serbs are not our brothers from day one, Tito changed nothing he was scared that we would leave Yugoslavia.

The Assassination of the Yugoslavian king Alexander, video 1 - YouTube

[Risto the Great]

And yes you are a fool, making enemies on a macedonian forum is very foolish, hence your maknews days, a stanch member of maknews, and yes you have and will continue to make yourself a fool in every way possible,

I like this and thought I would quote it for the benefit of posterity and further analysis. What about my Maknews days? I left Maknews because the UMD was beyond questioning on that forum and also a particularly irrelevant recurring theme or focus on homosexuality kept appearing when I believed they were nothing more than a minority in Macedonia and that Macedonia had far bigger problems than gay rights. Not that there is anything wrong with that'n'all. I was advised by the forum owner that I needed a cock in my mouth to sort all this out.

It was distasteful (in a number of ways) and I moved on to a far more successful environment.

I was a UMD member back then (as you were or still are). So my line of enquiry was nothing more than sincere.

The reasons above were entirely exhaustive. But, given your tendency to dramatise, please feel free to provide any other reason and also ways in which you somehow have had the better of me.

In closing, from reading many of your posts (now) I get the impression you do not like Egejci. I came across people that I think were like you in Perth when I was younger. Almost funny how us Egejci hated the Greeks but people like you probably loved the Serbs. Can we have a "who's the best Macedonian?" competition?

By the way, this isn't Frank is it?

[Risto the Great]

I have been following your subject matter quite closely. You said the MOC priests should be responsible for bringing wayward Macedonians back into the fold. We could delve into this and try to ascertain if you mean the MOC priests under Petar or the other ones. We would then have to determine if they agreed with Petar when he was accepting of the affiliation with the SOC. I suspect you've thought all that through.

BikWak, you have far too much interest in me and I have very little in you.
Rather than worry about my Macedonian clientele (who actually cost me money instead of make me money), you should have read what I said about the slavic languages. Much to your dismay, the Macedonian language is a slavic language. We Macedonians speak a language that well and truly resides in the slavic linguistic grouping. We are not slavs and I have never said we are or were. I know this is all too high-brow for you but you really should try to comprehend it.

I am not isolated from all Macedonians, only stupid ones. You and I are isolated.

I have no enemies that I am aware of. Are we enemies because I disagree that Russians or Poles or Slovaks speak a dialect of Macedonian according to you? Really?

If I am still learning to be a patriotic Macedonian, then thank goodness the rest of us can look to you for guidance on important matters like Russians speaking Macedonian and all.

I note you have not even tried to defend the Russians speaking Macedonian theory. It was my only real point of discussion with you. I mean, I know you have no argument, but it would be fun to see you flesh it out. C'mon, use your intellect and go for it.

I do not believe my ideologies have changed for many many years on Macedonian matters. Let me know if you have identified any departures and I would like to see what I have written to help confirm your allegations. In the meanwhile, you should learn how to back up your statements with facts.

[BigMak]

relentless in changing the subject, pathetic

There is no wonder why you have only 2 macedonian clients, Why is it offensive for you to think in a way other than what your isolation of the macedonian community has made you believe.

are you saying you have a slavic tongue and origin? you have a changing ideology thats what makes you so week, never before have i encounted a highly opinionated macedonian with vast array of changing ideologies.

And yes you are a fool, making enemies on a macedonian forum is very foolish, hence your maknews days, a stanch member of maknews, and yes you have and will continue to make yourself a fool in every way possible, Isolation from macedonians tends to bring the opinionated fools out.

in reality your years on a FORUM = a nothing, Mindless dribble with countless of opinion changes, in few years you might catch up.. you are still learning to be a patriotic Macedonian

[Risto the Great]

Oh, a bit more about the MOC priests. I have met a few lovely ones. I wish there were more like them. I also would like to know how many would still like an affiliation with the SOC.

[Risto the Great]

Are you all there BigMak?
Actually, yes, Gligorovski's daughter did or still does go to Serbian dance classes. I'm sure it won't be a revelation to him.

Did you really make me look like a fool back in Maknews? How exactly? Was it with similar comments to everybody who speaks a slavic language being a dialect of Macedonian? It couldn't possibly be, because that is stupid and has no foundation. That is why you cannot answer in a normal fashion. But really, I don't know you and nobody makes me look a fool easily. I think I would have remembered you if you did.

I don't make excuses for Grkomani. I do accept that Macedonians in Greece have to live in a reasonable fashion and would suffer if they lived as separatists all their lives. However I do retain some special kind of anger for Macedonians from RoMacedonia who still cannot find it within themselves to be truly Macedonian.

C'mon BigMak, admit it ... you like Serbians don't you? Why is it ok for Macedonians to like Serbians but not like Greeks? These are penetrating questions, you might tell me how I would end up in hospital over them.

Why would I have found myself in hospital? Is it your quick wit that would have cut me in pieces? Or is it the shock of learning the whole slavic speaking world is speaking a dialect of Macedonian? Go on, tell me more about the whole worldwide Macedonian dialect thing, I am intrigued and won't waste a moment in reading any of your thoughts.

Based on the way you are talking, it is safe to assume you are indeed tough. I have no doubts about your toughness. And yes, I would try to defend myself against your powerful onslaught the best I can. But I would inevitably acknowledge that the attack stemmed from questioning your belief in the world of slavic speaking languages and how they are all a dialect of Macedonian. I might be too embarrassed to attempt to lay a charge for blind naivety but who knows.

Anyway, I hope your academic career is going well and may you continue to uncover the great Macedonian truths of the last millenia. I wish you all the best I possibly can.

[BigMak]

Ha ha, meanwhile the MOC priests have their kids go to Serb dance classes. Mate, if you are waiting for priests to perform this function, you better talk to the guy upstairs and organise some lightning bolts pronto.

I suppose you would prefer a Greek Priest? I'm sure Reverend Father Nikola Gligorovski would like to here what you have been saying about his kids, I just sent him a email with a link.

And here we go, built up anger from the maknews days, where I made you look like a fool over and over again, well its not maknews and its absolutely fantastic you have finally learnt over the years to no longer make unjustifiable excuses for our egej grkoman brothers, but you still like to insult fellow Macedonians by any means necessary, as a result of Admin abuse, well done

oh how things have changed, a new Forum (and thats all it is) and a whole post dedicated on bagging grkomani.

its good you finally have learnt something, but then its fully understandable, I kinda feel sorry for you as you are starved for Macedonian contact being isolated in Adelaide, And yes Adelaide does that to a person with a Majority Grkoman population, hence why for so many years you have made excuses for them, hence why you log into a forum 400 x's a day to release that anger.

If it where real life and not a forum you would have found yourself in hospital and me well, you would most definitely follow the gutless grkoman way and lay a charge of some sort.

[Phoenix]

...Serbia promoted the standardization of our jazik and the identity of our people. How do you not see the difference?

Must we always be alone in the Balkans?

You're not Macedonian.

[Risto the Great]

My gut feeling says you are Greek.

Serbs have done nothing for Macedonians other than make many of them like bad music.

[TrueMako]

Nothing .... in the same way as supporting a Greek or Greek team.
TrueMako, you sound like a true Serb to me (or at least a NotTrueMako).

Greece performed ethnic cleansing on our people and deny our name/history. Serbia promoted the standardization of our jazik and the identity of our people. How do you not see the difference?

Must we always be alone in the Balkans?

[Risto the Great]

our MOC priests can go visit these grkomani to re-instate their Macedonianism back to reality, and organise a re-instatement project for these fuck wits

Ha ha, meanwhile the MOC priests have their kids go to Serb dance classes. Mate, if you are waiting for priests to perform this function, you better talk to the guy upstairs and organise some lightning bolts pronto.

[Risto the Great]

Whats your point Risto, I couldn't care less about russian or serb history nor do i want to discuss it, im sure there are plenty of "Slav" forums out there where you can get yourself banned from if you want to join.

BigMak,
my point was about whether you could tell us what the Russians or Serbians were speaking before the Macedonians graced them with the joy of a written language.

Here is what you said back when you were "discussing it":

All so called slavs are speaking a dialect of Macedonian

You seem disinterested in Serb or Russian history yet are willing to grace academia with the little known fact that all Russians, Serbs etc speak Macedonian. You don't sound too retarded when you say this with confidence (I'm joking, of course you sound retarded). So why not explore it?

Otherwise you have merely said something without foundation. Happens every day but I feel that sometimes people should be slapped when they can't back up what they say.

Is my point any clearer now?

Just to make it clearer, you sound much more like a peasant than an academic.

[Big Bad Sven]

Excuse me brother Macedonian but what is wrong with supporting Red Star or Novak Djokovic?

And hi everyone, I'm new to the forums - love the Macedonian pride & unity here!

Nothing wrong with supporting serbian sports players and teams my brother. I prefer to support Bulgarian sports starts and teams though. If the bulgarians arent doing well i support the greek team and players.

In regards to tennis, i always prefer to support Marcos Bhagdattis of Djojavic, sorry about that

[BigMak]

I heard Stan Lazararides is a grkoman. He played for Stirling Makedonijia back in the day and had no problem speaking macedonian in the change rooms. When he became famous he became a proud grik.
A few old aegean macedonians who i spoke to over the years told me that his brother is a proud macedonian but Steve and his sister are grkomans.

Apparently Daniel Metropolis is a grkoman, i met some aegean macedonians who have the same surname as him and are distant cousins, and they disown him.

During my life i have met many grkomans who are in high places that own hotels or are lawyers or accountants - so i agree with you that almost half of the people from aegean macedonia are grkomans, which is a shame

Also alarming i notice a lot of aegean girls seem to be dating marrying grks for what ever crazy reason, which i think is a shame and cultural suicide.

I met a few older people who are srbomans as well unfortunately, people who came to australia before WW2 from macedonia.
The most famous serboman in Perth is Bobby Despatovski

yes BBS you are 100 % right about this,

there are plenty to name,


if only the Macedonians had the balls of the Jewish communities where they segregate individuals and families from contributing in community activities including synagogues.


They soon get re-instated in community life after they have been spoken to by the local rabbi after a teaching of Jewish law, If only Macedonians did the same, and our MOC priests can go visit these grkomani to re-instate their Macedonianism back to reality, and organise a re-instatement project for these fuck wits

[BigMak]

I'm not sure why you ended with this or who you seem to be attacking.
If the "so called slavs" are speaking a dialect of Macedonian, then you would have to believe they were speaking something else before the Macedonians taught them how to speak.

Can you tell us what the Russians or Serbians were speaking before the Macedonians graced them with the joy of a written language? Can you show me proof of these "pre-Macedonian" languages for these peoples?

I just think some people might recoil and die if they ever hear the word "slavic".

It is a unique phenomena because I never hear such naive responses from anyone in relation to say Latin languages.

I don't believe in the slavic migration theory either by the way.

Whats your point Risto, I couldn't care less about russian or serb history nor do i want to discuss it, im sure there are plenty of "Slav" forums out there where you can get yourself banned from if you want to join.