young aegean macedonians in melbourne

[Niko777]

@ Lerin and Egejska:

I am an Aegean in Canada from the younger generation. In Canada, I could tell you that most of the younger Aegeans (1st and 2nd generation Canadians) have been assimilated or well established in Canadian culture and identify as Canadians or Canadian Macedonians. This is because immigration from Aegean Macedonia has stopped in the 1970s and Aegean Macedonia is still under Greek occupation. The same thing would have happened to Vardar Macedonians if immigration had stopped, but immigrants from the Republic of Macedonia continue to come and I would say recent immigrants (post 1985) now dominate the younger Macedonian community in Canada and Aegeans no longer play a large role as they did before 1980s.

[boyphenom666]

My first thought is that you're a fuckin dickhead...
I don't see any relevance of your post in relation to the thread, other than some piss weak attempt to discredit the Macedonian ethnos.

Nice reply. Are you a member of the new Macedonian branch of Golden Dawn?

Try reading and learning something other than propaganda for once.

This is a well-known phenomenon for anybody who REALLY knows the history of Macedonia, particularly the fact that urban Vlachs took the side of the Greeks, and many of the rural Vlachs assimilated with the Macedonians and were on the pro-Bulgarian side.

Most grkomani are Vlachs. That doesn't mean all Vlachs are grkomani, however. This is well documented in academic materials as well as in my personal experience.

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Just found this on the fly. I'm sure there are better sources out there, but this willl give you the idea.

http://www.oswego.edu/~baloglou/misc/manakia.html

"Na taljia ka njelji ka earamu ku Elada ka di daima"

("They were slaughtering us like sheep because we always sided with Greece")

This is how the Macedonian Vlachs (Rumanian-speaking, but largely of Greek persuasion) described their experiences during the "Bulgaromacedonian" revolt of July 1903 (Iliden)--quoted from "The Manakia brothers, cinema pioneers in the Balkans and the Vlach question" (in Greek), by Yioryis Exarchos, 1991; this quotation and article is submitted here to dispel the notion that the Manakia brothers, Vlachs from the mountainous village of Avdella (in southernmost (Greek) Macedonia) were pure-bred "Macedonians".

[Phoenix]

...Any thoughts?

My first thought is that you're a fuckin dickhead...
I don't see any relevance of your post in relation to the thread, other than some piss weak attempt to discredit the Macedonian ethnos.

[boyphenom666]

I think there are a couple of issues here, and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. It seems to me that the two primary groups of people who speak Macedonian are people of a Slavic background or a Vlach background. It seems that most of those from a Slavic background identify with the Macedonian side, however it gets a little less predictable if the person comes from a Aroumanian/Vlach background. Most of the grkomani I've run across have been from an Aroumanian background. Any thoughts?

[EgejskaMakedonia]

What has happened to the young aegean macedonians in melbourne. I am 40 ish and my background from Lerin. It is sad because most of my relos either refer to themselves as aussies or as greek macedonians or wait for it a new one i heard from a young relo of mine recently macedonian greek. It seems to me like these macedonians are unable to relate to the republic in any way and all the skis as one young friend of mine put it. These macedonians spend their time with greeks and pretending they too are greek simply saying that they are greek macedonian but don't speak greek. It is sad because their is thousands of them. Just have a look at shepparton where most of them are from lerin and my relos they all refer to themselves as Greek. this is rally sad and i don't understand it. My guess is that because thee area their parents come from is under greek rule they find it easier to refer to themselves as greek. I would have thought young people would be smarter than that but obviously i was wrong. They go on Facebook saying things like my baba my redo and then calling themselves greek!!!. fuc--- dumb cu--s.

I disagree. Melbourne has a large population of Macedonians from Egej and a significant proportion identify as Macedonian. I'm one of those 'young Aegean Macedonians' you speak of and even though there are a fair few grkomani around, the majority are still true to themselves. It obviously depends from family to family, but you need to be careful with your generalisations.

[lerin]

What has happened to the young aegean macedonians in melbourne. I am 40 ish and my background from Lerin. It is sad because most of my relos either refer to themselves as aussies or as greek macedonians or wait for it a new one i heard from a young relo of mine recently macedonian greek. It seems to me like these macedonians are unable to relate to the republic in any way and all the skis as one young friend of mine put it. These macedonians spend their time with greeks and pretending they too are greek simply saying that they are greek macedonian but don't speak greek. It is sad because their is thousands of them. Just have a look at shepparton where most of them are from lerin and my relos they all refer to themselves as Greek. this is rally sad and i don't understand it. My guess is that because thee area their parents come from is under greek rule they find it easier to refer to themselves as greek. I would have thought young people would be smarter than that but obviously i was wrong. They go on Facebook saying things like my baba my redo and then calling themselves greek!!!. fuc--- dumb cu--s.