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  • Brian
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    • Oct 2011
    • 1130

    #91
    Just something I found quickly...you have a computer, I'm sure you know how to use Google. It's like Bing, try it sometime.

    I guess her speaking at the UN doesn't count either.

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    • Brian
      Banned
      • Oct 2011
      • 1130

      #92
      Has everyone got their desk/wall calendar for 2012. Hell, it would be fun to see what happens.

      SECOND MAYAN REFERENCE TO 2012 FOUND

      Mexico's archaeology institute acknowledged that a second reference to the date exists on a carved fragment found at a southern Mexico ruin site.


      Mexico's archaeology institute downplays theories that the ancient Mayas predicted some sort of apocalypse would occur in 2012, but on Thursday it acknowledged that a second reference to the date exists on a carved fragment found at a southern Mexico ruin site.

      Most experts had cited only one surviving reference to the date in Mayan glyphs, a stone tablet from the Tortuguero site in the Gulf coast state of Tabasco.

      But the National Institute of Anthropology and History said in a statement that there is in fact another apparent reference to the date at the nearby Comalcalco ruin. The inscription is on the carved or molded face of a brick. Comalcalco is unusual among Mayan temples in that it was constructed of bricks.

      Arturo Mendez, a spokesman for the institute, said the fragment of inscription had been discovered years ago and has been subject to thorough study. It is not on display and is being kept in storage at the institute.

      The "Comalcalco Brick," as the second fragment is known, has been discussed by experts in some online forums. Many still doubt that it is a definite reference to Dec. 21, 2012 or Dec. 23, 2012, the dates cited by proponents of the theory as the possible end of the world.

      "Some have proposed it as another reference to 2012, but I remain rather unconvinced," David Stuart, a specialist in Mayan epigraphy at the University of Texas at Austin, said in a message to The Associated Press.

      Stuart said the date inscribed on the brick "'is a Calendar Round,' a combination of a day and month position that will repeat every 52 years."

      The brick date does coincide with the end of the 13th Baktun; Baktuns were roughly 394-year periods and 13 was a significant, sacred number for the Mayas. The Mayan Long Count calendar begins in 3114 B.C., and the 13th Baktun ends around Dec. 21, 2012.

      But the date on the brick could also correspond to similar dates in the past, Stuart said.

      "There's no reason it couldn't be also a date in ancient times, describing some important historical event in the Classic period. In fact, the third glyph on the brick seems to read as the verb huli, "he/she/it arrives."

      "There's no future tense marking (unlike the Tortuguero phrase), which in my mind points more to the Comalcalco date being more historical that prophetic," Stuart wrote.

      Both inscriptions — the Tortuguero tablet and the Comalcalco brick — were probably carved about 1,300 years ago and both are cryptic in some ways.

      The Tortuguero inscription describes something that is supposed to occur in 2012 involving Bolon Yokte, a mysterious Mayan god associated with both war and creation.

      However, erosion and a crack in the stone make the end of the passage almost illegible, though some read the last eroded glyphs as perhaps saying, "He will descend from the sky."


      The Comalcalco brick is also odd in that the molded or inscribed faces of the bricks were probably laid facing inward or covered with stucco, suggesting they were not meant to be seen.

      The Institute of Anthropology and History has long said rumors of a world-ending or world-changing event in late December 2012 are a Westernized misinterpretation of Mayan calendars.

      The institute repeated Thursday that "western messianic thought has twisted the cosmovision of ancient civilizations like the Maya."

      The institute's experts say the Mayas saw time as a series of cycles that began and ended with regularity, but with nothing apocalyptic at the end of a given cycle.

      Given the strength of Internet rumors about impending disaster in 2012, the institute is organizing a special round table of 60 Mayan experts next week at the archaeological site of Palenque, in southern Mexico, to "dispel some of the doubts about the end of one era and the beginning of another, in the Mayan Long Count calendar."

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      • Phoenix
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2008
        • 4671

        #93
        Brian, why did you highlight the absurd passages of the report whilst avoiding the more sane parts...?

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        • Brian
          Banned
          • Oct 2011
          • 1130

          #94
          Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
          Brian, why did you highlight the absurd passages of the report whilst avoiding the more sane parts...?
          It is not absurd because it IS actually what the tablet says. The interpretation of this saying is what's up for speculation, not the saying itself.

          For the 'nut cases', or anyone with a curiosity (ie doesn't necessarily believe, but doesn't dismiss everything out of hand ie not you), the statement, 'He/She/It will descend from the sky," is exceptionally significant because it has been repeated in many times and places, including the Bible. A common statement leads one to think of a common belief system.

          Some have postulated this to mean "Ancient Aliens" (find it on Youtube). Some of the evidence is astounding, such as ancient rock paintings showing what looks like astronauts in their suits and flying vehicles. No ancient cave dweller could have imagine this, but just because something looks like 'something' doesn't mean it is. The evidence is sketchy at best, but you can't help feeling 'why is it there'.

          In any event, 2012 is almost upon us and we wont have long to wait to satisfy our curiosity. There was one article I once read where scientists were tracking some rock and based on their calculations of orbits they estimated that it would hit the earth in 100 something thousand years. I know, 'so Fing what!', we are not going to be around then, but it is likely we will be around for 2012, and hence it is of world wide interest, including Macedonians.

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          • Brian
            Banned
            • Oct 2011
            • 1130

            #95
            Bloody funny!!! Too bad she got fired after that - maybe if more people did that the world be a better place.

            Russian Newscaster Gives Obama The Finger

            Last edited by Brian; 11-27-2011, 02:41 PM.

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            • George S.
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 10116

              #96
              brian a lot of people have predicted the end of the world especially 2012 & mayan predictions are definitely wrong & based on coincidence.Why you beleiving shit like that.Look at all the predictions they were all b/s.It's all sheer coincidence.2012 will come & go like anyyear.
              "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
              GOTSE DELCEV

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              • Brian
                Banned
                • Oct 2011
                • 1130

                #97
                Originally posted by George S. View Post
                Why you beleiving shit like that.Look at all the predictions they were all b/s.
                It's world hype and world interest - I'm just curious. Besides, it's not long, and time will tell. I'm sure it will be a good piss-up just the same.

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                • George S.
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 10116

                  #98
                  are you going to pissup pretending the world will end???in 2012.
                  last time a person predicted in 2011 the person actually died.
                  "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                  GOTSE DELCEV

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                  • George S.
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 10116

                    #99
                    also if people are going to beleive every prediction you had nostradamus etc all proven wrong,plus you have all those religious cults predicting the return of christ & the second coming.They all been proven wrong.You know what advice they got do not predict the end of the world as chances are it will be wrong.
                    "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                    GOTSE DELCEV

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                    • Brian
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 1130

                      You are right, George. Too many people have incorrectly predicted the end of the world too many times, so statistical, you're right, it probably wont be, but it still makes an excuse to have a piss-up party.

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                      • George S.
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 10116

                        i have to agree on the piss up party.I think you should invite phoenix & the rest of the gang from mto.
                        "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                        GOTSE DELCEV

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                        • ProMKD
                          Member
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 367

                          Statistics can't prove or disprove the future.

                          I've always said, the world could end tomorrow, because it IS possible, anything is possible.

                          The sad part is, we will all be sitting at our stupid jobs while it happens. We will be worried about spending the extra money on a lunch, saving a bit here, saving a bit there, then oops, the earth was hit by a mega asteroid, or nuclear war started. Humanity is such a joke.
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                          • Brian
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 1130

                            Originally posted by ProMKD View Post
                            The sad part is, we will all be sitting at our stupid jobs while it happens.
                            I plan to take the 20th and 21st off - the 20th to party and the 21st to 'have a hair of the dog that bit you'.

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                            • George S.
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 10116

                              What happens if you followed some stupid list of things to do before you leave this world like homer simson.You just happen to ring the boss & tell him to shove his job.The next day you are out of a job,
                              "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                              GOTSE DELCEV

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                              • Brian
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2011
                                • 1130

                                Originally posted by George S. View Post
                                What happens if you followed some stupid list of things to do before you leave this world like homer simson.You just happen to ring the boss & tell him to shove his job.The next day you are out of a job,
                                Lol, George. On the news one time they were saying about a guy who won the lotto. On the Monday, believing he was rich, he told his boss off, bought an expensive car and boat and started looking for a big house. That evening he found out a record number of winners got the winning combination, so the actual prize per winner was very low.

                                Nahh, you don't burn bridges until your sure, and even then you triple check, to be sure, to be sure, to be sure (Jameson Irish Whiskey joke).

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