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Honestly Phoenix, what do you know?If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams -
When carbon dating does not fit fundamentalists need they argue against.
But they all toreadelly jump on it when it supports their claims.
Here the Edomite example:
What it should be is the question?
And for those fine tuning experts here, simple made quantum mechanics explanation:
Last edited by makedonin; 06-19-2011, 08:09 AM.To enquire after the impression behind an idea is the way to remove disputes concerning nature and reality.Comment
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Someone here doesn't read the specific comments made in relation to carbon dating...and then they provide arguments on fine tuning that have already been addressed about 30 pages ago...If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John AdamsComment
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Only a spy bot can out do another spy bot and reply in real time to pseudo scientific garbage.Originally posted by Vangelovski View Post
I am real person, so don't mind me.
If you can't handle it, don't blame the messenger.Last edited by makedonin; 06-19-2011, 09:34 AM.To enquire after the impression behind an idea is the way to remove disputes concerning nature and reality.Comment
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YouTube - ‪Ken Ham: Genesis genius or just weird beard?‬‏
I wonder how long would a kangaroo need to come to palestina!?
YouTube - ‪Noah's Ark: "I think we need a bigger boat!"‬‏
YouTube - ‪The Bible is not for kids! - Or is it?‬‏Last edited by makedonin; 06-19-2011, 12:31 PM.To enquire after the impression behind an idea is the way to remove disputes concerning nature and reality.Comment
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I was going to create a new user called "GOD" to clarify some of the issues on this thread.
I suspect even God would not have a chance on this thread and that his biggest skeptics would probably be his followers.
Bring on the Silver Surfer!
Either way, I wish this level of passion existed for Macedonian matters.Risto the Great
MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
"Holding my breath for the revolution."
Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.comComment
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Either way, I wish this level of passion existed for Macedonian matters
Yes I agree
If a deity exists great discover it but try to ask yourself if only Humans depended on each other and comforted each other the only propose religion would serve is to ease our fears we go to a better plain of existence when we are dead and burried even and athoist would at least want that
If a deity exists it probably will be explained away by Physics our understanding of the Nano World or one unified theory of the Universe will be born or better yet Drakes theory on the number of Intelligent beings in the Universes will bring a outstanding result that will either bury organised religion or an outstanding revelation will be born Homo sapiens and aliens are all of Gods children we are different but of the same egg
A New region might be born the three main Faiths could be challenged a fusion of many or the old school figures before Jesus might be resurrected they sure have the same qualities of Jesus immaculate conception, miracles, died for our sins but for some reason have been forgotten in the scrapes of History and most people couldn’t mention their names
If a new concept of Society is born were wealth and money attainment is replaced with something new and beyond our everyday existence there will have less reason for Religion people will have access to Food and everyone will have attained the same goal, being "Happy" being fulfilled afterall that is what every Human being wants from an undiscovered tribe in the Amazon to a high flying Executive.
Humans need religion but dam if there is one thing I can say religion provides is oodles endless fulfilling Prophecy if as much energy was spent one predicting the end of the Earth and belief Christians will be taken away in rapture then the relationship of fellow man we all would live in a much better world
There probably and more likely is something beyond but I don’t think Christianity, Judaism and Islam are the path all three in some ways are on the right road but have diverged so far you just have to bring the greatest gift God or Evolution has given us
Think and ask questions something religion does well in drowning
THE ENDLast edited by Zarni; 06-19-2011, 06:05 PM.Comment
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Do the RATE Findings Negate Mainstream Science?
An interesting research project undertaken by creationist scientists to determine the age of the Earth using the very technologies previously disputed by TV as flawed.
To paraphrase the great Christian theologian Augustine, how can we expect unbelievers to trust our statements about spiritual things if we make outlandish statements about worldly things?Comment
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Phoenix, thanks for the link. However, the RATE project does not attempt to determine the age of the earth. Its an investigation of the various dating methods. In addition, there are some glaringly misleading statements in the article, for example, it attributes some claims to RATE that they never made and de-attributes others that they have made.Originally posted by Phoenix View PostDo the RATE Findings Negate Mainstream Science?
An interesting research project undertaken by creationist scientists to determine the age of the Earth using the very technologies previously disputed by TV as flawed.
To paraphrase the great Christian theologian Augustine, how can we expect unbelievers to trust our statements about spiritual things if we make outlandish statements about worldly things?
But there are others (mainly non-Christians) who have investigated these dating methods and found them to be highly inaccurate, some of which I have posted (including their findings).If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John AdamsComment
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Here is an idea. What if a 'day' on Earth is in some other celestial realm much longer (in Earth time). I got this idea from the movie, 'Contact' where a second of earth time, is the same as 18 minutes in some location in the cosmos.Comment
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PelisterOriginally posted by Pelister View Post
I think your'e onto something here, if I remember correctly Gligorov said it will only be FYROM for a few months - wallah 20 years later here we still are!On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"Comment
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we seem to be in a time warp where we are constantly being punished perhaps there is an upside to it in another parralel universe..RTG if you have that god thread god spelt backwards is dog."Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
GOTSE DELCEVComment
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The funniest comment on this thread yet but dont say somthing like that in Americian Bible Coutry you will be feed to the Dogsgod thread god spelt backwards is dogComment
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Agnostic insomniacs with dyslexia usually spend whole nights wondering whether or not there is a Dog.अयं निज: परो वेति गणना लघुचेतसाम्।
उदारमनसानां तु वसुधैव कुटुंबकम्॥
This is mine or (somebody) elses (is the way) narrow minded people count.
But for broad minded people, (whole) earth is (like their) family.Comment
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“This kind of demon, cannot be driven out but by prayer and fasting.”
In this Gospel, God clearly shows us the reason for our infirmities and sufferings, which is our non-belief or weak faith. When God told the boy’s father: “If you can believe? Everything is possible for him who believes! “ He shouted with tears and said:” I believe Lord, Help my non-belief!” He humbled, accepted his weakness and weak faith and in repentance he confessed, that is why God gave him the strength to believe and healed his son.
If we pay a little more attention to Jesus’ answer, we will notice that the cure and therapy prescribed by our Lord, is spiritual: the faith in God, the prayer and the fasting. This is because the core and essence of our life is spiritual. The man is a psychophysical being, created from the dust of the ground (substance) in the image and likeness of God, to be in eternal union with his God and Creator. But after the transgression, the sin entered the world and disease, suffering, sorrow, misfortune followed … Yet, the merciful God has not given up completely of His creation and gave us a way of repentance and salvation, so now the man is always in a position between the two poles, life and death, good and evil, God and mammon (the devil). When man will forget God, (non belief) then the sin and disease will enter into him. When man will get closer to God, then he heals and thrives. If our spirit is healthy than our body will be healthy.
According to God Jesus Christ, the remedy and therapy for each weakness and disease is the prayer and fasting which, unfortunately, we all have forgotten. We have forgotten these two main things in the spiritual life, therefore the devil has very easy access to us.
From today’s Gospel, we can understand how our mutual relationships are, how they go from one extreme to another extreme and yet we are powerless to control them.
Why?
St. April Paul calls: Brothers … Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes for our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. (Eph. 6.12 to 13). This means our battle is spiritual.
The devil is clever and a spirit in nature and acts through our ideas and thoughts. If we do not have the prayer, then he can easily come into us and manipulate with our thoughts. If we believe him, we have already created a problem. The devil is the father of lies and a man murderer and he wants us to argue, to separate, execute, destroy and push us into hell. If we are foolish and stupid and begin to accept his thoughts and start open dialogue with them, instead of praying to God to enlighten our minds and dismiss them, then we can easily believe in his thoughts and identify them as true, which in turn darken our minds and create the sin as God forbids. If we don’t wake up on time, then we will end up with unwanted things and big consequences.
The prayer is a conversation and a communion with the living God. Practicing the prayer we have our mind and heart to God and our concentration to God, through love. The communion with Him gives us His grace, which is a fire for demons, so they do not have access to us, which then they twitch, paralyze and run away from us. God reveals “This kind of demon, cannot be driven out but by a prayer and fasting.”
Prayer should always be supported by fasting. Fasting does not only mean avoiding a certain kind of food, but also abstinence from everything that is superfluous and unnecessary. By suppressing our thoughts, our desires and passions, we have control over ourselves and we tie devil’s feet and hands, not allowing him to have influence on us. The Holy Fathers say fasting and prayer are the two wings of our soul to the heavenly kingdom. Therefore, let us love fasting and prayer with the whole soul and strength, and put them into practice and accept with our life, so to call victory over sin and worship the Holy Resurrection. Amen.
Стравот на Атина од овој Македонец одел до таму што го нарекле Страшниот Чакаларов гркоубиец и крвожеден комитаџија.
Ако знам дека тука тече една капка грчка крв, јас сега би ја отсекол целата рака и би ја фрлил в море. Васил ЧакаларовComment
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