Fascinating Diaspora On Macedonian Election

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  • Currency Trader
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    • Sep 2009
    • 172

    Fascinating Diaspora On Macedonian Election

    This has been published, whether its true or not, it remains to be seen.

    If true, where is the allmighty Diaspora who knows so much better than residential citizens of Macedonia?


    Unofficially, the Macedonian diaspora in Europe submitted 1,465 for the ruling Government (Risto Manchev of VMRO-DPMNE), 154 for SDSM, 402 for DUI, 54 for VMRO-NP, and 50 for DPA.

    In US and Canada, similar story, overwhelming victory for VMRO-DPMNE candidate (Pavle Sazdov) receiving 560 votes, 82 for the SDSM, 242 for SDU and 58 for Dostoinstvo.

    In Australia, Miki Dodevski of the VMRO DPMNE received 549 votes, the SDSM 9, while Dostoinstvo received 12 and OM with 6.



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  • Zarni
    Banned
    • May 2011
    • 672

    #2
    I think you are being too dramatic and the results are hardly suprising either or necessarily terrible too

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    • George S.
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 10116

      #3
      CT & Zarni we do know better but whether the govt will listen to us is miles away.
      The diaspora has on to a lot of things like the flag & name issue & have voiced our concern.Why do we know better well look at the coditions people are living in rom .We are in a way advertizing to the rom govt look at me i have a better life but you have to work for it.The lesson for the rom govt is don't just capitulate or compromise check how the rest of the world would feel.The resounding answer would come back "you have been blackmailed to change your name ,your flag etcetc.
      Last edited by George S.; 06-06-2011, 10:22 AM. Reason: edit
      "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
      GOTSE DELCEV

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      • walrus335
        Banned
        • May 2011
        • 21

        #4
        Well the Diaspora are majority Albanians so I really don't think Macedonia would want their votes...

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        • George S.
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 10116

          #5
          They only think of themselves & do not consider themselves as citizens of ROM.They would rather have their own albania with their own passports.
          "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
          GOTSE DELCEV

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          • DirtyCodingHabitz
            Member
            • Sep 2010
            • 835

            #6
            Originally posted by walrus335 View Post
            Well the Diaspora are majority Albanians
            I find that hard to believe.

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            • Makedonska_Kafana
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2010
              • 2642

              #7
              Originally posted by walrus335 View Post
              Well the Diaspora are majority Albanians so I really don't think Macedonia would want their votes...
              Are you playing with 52? How, did you come up with that lie that most Macedonians in diaspora are Albanians? Are, you Albanian or Greek?
              http://www.makedonskakafana.com

              Macedonia for the Macedonians

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              • Bukefal
                Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 113

                #8
                Most of the Macedonians in the diaspora did not know how to vote in the first place. They were uninformed and they needed to do all kinds of stuff which they had no clue off.

                You had to registrate one or two months before, to send a letter, to receive it and then going to the embassy. First they were uninformed, second, they had to do all kinds of stuff. That makes it unattractive for many. And of course there is the issue of valid Macedonian passports, which are needed to vote.

                Too receive this info, you have to keep track of whats going on in macedonia and on all the regulations. Most of the diaspora do not do that. They dont keep track of the website of the Drzavna Izborna Komisija to see how it goes and when things should be done and even if they did, for many people the regulations shown on the DIK website are too complicated. Hell, most of the Macedonians in the diaspora do not even know what the DIK is in the first place.

                Unless we see a major campaign started by some big macedonian organisations in showing and informing the diaspora how the voting goes, and unless we see the government making it easier to cast your votes and unless we see DIK making it more simple for people to understand, we shouldn't expect any increase of voters in the Diaspora.

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                • Currency Trader
                  Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 172

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Zarni View Post
                  I think you are being too dramatic and the results are hardly suprising either or necessarily terrible too
                  Too dramatic? - That was a good one
                  2500 votes out of possibly 500 000-1 200 000 milion. Is that progress?

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                  • Currency Trader
                    Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 172

                    #10
                    Originally posted by walrus335 View Post
                    Well the Diaspora are majority Albanians so I really don't think Macedonia would want their votes...
                    Any facts supporting your claims?

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                    • Makedonska_Kafana
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 2642

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Currency Trader View Post
                      Too dramatic? - That was a good one
                      2500 votes out of possibly 500 000-1 200 000 milion. Is that progress?
                      You're, upset because your personal EU dream has been put on hold for yet another 4 long years. Calling, early elections when you're clearly trailing in the polls hinges on mental insanity. (see brown paper bags)
                      http://www.makedonskakafana.com

                      Macedonia for the Macedonians

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                      • Currency Trader
                        Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 172

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Bukefal View Post
                        Most of the Macedonians in the diaspora did not know how to vote in the first place. They were uninformed and they needed to do all kinds of stuff which they had no clue off.

                        You had to registrate one or two months before, to send a letter, to receive it and then going to the embassy. First they were uninformed, second, they had to do all kinds of stuff. That makes it unattractive for many. And of course there is the issue of valid Macedonian passports, which are needed to vote.

                        Too receive this info, you have to keep track of whats going on in macedonia and on all the regulations. Most of the diaspora do not do that. They dont keep track of the website of the Drzavna Izborna Komisija to see how it goes and when things should be done and even if they did, for many people the regulations shown on the DIK website are too complicated. Hell, most of the Macedonians in the diaspora do not even know what the DIK is in the first place.

                        Unless we see a major campaign started by some big macedonian organisations in showing and informing the diaspora how the voting goes, and unless we see the government making it easier to cast your votes and unless we see DIK making it more simple for people to understand, we shouldn't expect any increase of voters in the Diaspora.
                        Interesting - It appears from your text, that the state does not mail out information or voting ballots to Macedonian citizens who live abroad.

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                        • Currency Trader
                          Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 172

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Makedonska_Kafana View Post
                          You're, upset because your personal EU dream has been put on hold for yet another 4 long years. Calling, early elections when you're clearly trailing in the polls hinges on mental insanity. (see brown paper bags)

                          Not following you here. What personal EU dream to be put on hold for another 4 years? And what are you talking about trailing in the polls hinges on mental insanity?

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                          • Makedonska_Kafana
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 2642

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Currency Trader View Post
                            Not following you here. What personal EU dream to be put on hold for another 4 years? And what are you talking about trailing in the polls hinges on mental insanity?
                            You've supported Macedonia in the EU without giving any guarantee's life could improve for most Macedonians. You, think exactly like Crvenkovski lets join EU so that some of us will benefit financially.

                            Who did you vote for?
                            http://www.makedonskakafana.com

                            Macedonia for the Macedonians

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                            • julie
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2009
                              • 3869

                              #15
                              He voted for SDMS of course, CT is pro-grk UMD anti-Macedonian , knowing EU will be loss of sovereinty and ethnic genocide for our people
                              "The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task."__________________Gotse Delchev

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