Albanianization in Macedonia

[Big Bad Sven]

Skopje's new Turko-Albanian mega mosque is taking shape in the center of the city (Investor: Government of Turkey)

B-B-B-But the Turks are our friends?!?!?

lol

Turks are only friends when macedonia can be a thorn to greece, bulgaria or serbia. When it comes to shiptar matters in macedonia the turk always sides with his shiptar bastard sons

[Niko777]

Unbelievable. When a similar proposal for the construction of an Orthodox Church went ahead not so long ago, all hell broke loose. Not only were there protests from Muslim Albanians but from Macedonians as well. And here we are, half way into the completion of this monstrosity (that celebrates not only foreign traditions, customs and ideas, alien to Macedonia, but also symbolically glorifies a religion that enslaved Macedonia for over five centuries) and not a whimper can be heard from anyone. Deafening silence once again.

https://balkaninsight.com/2012/05/14...church-begins/

The Macedonians are to blame for this, both those who were in the government and received a payout from Turkey, and also the average citizen who cannot be bothered from the kafana.

[Karposh]

Unbelievable. When a similar proposal for the construction of an Orthodox Church went ahead not so long ago, all hell broke loose. Not only were there protests from Muslim Albanians but from Macedonians as well. And here we are, half way into the completion of this monstrosity (that celebrates not only foreign traditions, customs and ideas, alien to Macedonia, but also symbolically glorifies a religion that enslaved Macedonia for over five centuries) and not a whimper can be heard from anyone. Deafening silence once again.

https://balkaninsight.com/2012/05/14/construction-of-controversial-skopje-church-begins/

[Niko777]

Skopje's new Turko-Albanian mega mosque is taking shape in the center of the city (Investor: Government of Turkey)

[Risto the Great]

There are words, just none good.

[Karposh]

I wasn't sure whether to start up a new thread called "The Retardation of The Macedonian People" with regard to this latest shocker to come out of the republic, which I might add, has been completely left unchecked by anyone concerned. The indifference to it all is almost deafening and is yet another disappointing page in our most-recent, humiliating and embarrassing history. I just heard this morning that the new Minister of Culture for Macedonia, the shiptar Asaf Ademi, has just approved a token amount of funds from the Ministry's budget for Macedonian cultural associations and a comparatively exponential amount for Albanian cultural associations. Just as an example, Tanec, Macedonia's most famous cultural association and proud ambassador of Macedonian folk music and dance abroad, have been left speechless with a mere 150,000 denari being allocated to them while some Albanian cultural association has been allocated over 800,000 denari. So, it has come to this it seems, we are propping up and funding the cultural development of minorities at the expense of the host nation. What an absolute nation of retards. There's just no words...

[Carlin]

Hahahaha. Check your email.

Thank you. Do you happen to have by any chance the book by Teodora Toleva (in either Spanish or English) titled "Influence of the Austro-Hungarian Empire on the Creation of the Albanian Nation (1896-1908)"?

The original title in Spanish is "La influencia del Imperio Austro-Hungaro en la construccion nacional albanesa (1896-1908)".

URL:

https://fbreporter.org/2015/04/01/documents-from-the-vienna-royal-archives-confirm-the-albanian-nation-was-constructed-by-austro-hungary/

[Niko777]

War criminals have no place in government, US ambassador tells Kosovo

PRISTINA (Reuters) - The U.S. ambassador to Kosovo has criticized Kosovo’s government for hiring an ex-Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) commander convicted of war crimes as an advisor to the prime minister.

Full article: https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-ko...-idUKKCN1PW1M8

Send him to North Macedonia! I'm sure there's a place for him in the government of North Macedonia, defense minister maybe?

[VMRO]

Thanks man, that would be great. Is there anything you don't have?

Hahahaha. Check your email.

[Carlin]

Thanks man, that would be great. Is there anything you don't have?

[VMRO]

Carlin, i have a book if you are interested.

[Gocka]

I think we can all rise above it, and treat each other with respect and honour.

I tend to agree but I also believe respect and honor are something that require reciprocation.

Macedonians have been more than tolerant over the decades and even centuries. Look where that has gotten us. What have Albanians done just in Macedonia to honor their country men? How have Albanians shown Macedonians respect? By hanging Albanian flags on every corner, refusing to speak Macedonian, taking up guerrilla warfare against our people, refusing to become part of the country they live in?

Not everyone is deserving of respect.

Albanians have ascended on the world stage through their mafia. This is a fact that is undeniable. Ford god sake, James bond no longer chases Russians, they are Albanians now. The whole world has take note, every intelligence service in Europe has taken note. Do you know how an ethnic mafia grows to that size from such a small populace? When everyone is involved, that's how. Do you think a handful of people run a worldwide crime syndicate? Every other Albanian family is mixed up in that scene one way or another. At a minimum they all turn a blind eye on all the evil elements within their communities. Would you shield murderers just because they were Macedonian? I wouldn't. They don't see it that way. To them it doesn't matter if the Albanian mafia hurts others, as long as its good for Albanians.

I'm not about to shed a tear over these savages over some pc crap about generalizations. Just because a generalization doesn't cover 100% of a group doesn't mean its not true.

Do Russians drink too much vodka? Yes they do.
Do Japanese people smoke a lot? Yes they do.
Are Albanians disproportionately involved in criminal activity? Yes they are.

[Gocka]

Not a bad summary Risto but Wikipedia manages to sum up the Albanian national psyche even better than you could I think. Admittedly, they are focusing specifically on Albanian crime but the tone of the article is as though the Albanians are born into a life of crime with their clan loyalties, blood oaths, besa traditions, etc...



Staggering...But I'm sure Wikipedia is only referring to the few bad apples in the lot and not casting aspersions on all Albanians.

LOL well done, well done indeed good sir.

[Karposh]

I think (based on the above) they generally like to invade.

They are an opportunistic people. Sure, that is a generalisation. It could even be understood to be a compliment. Like Negroids are thought to be more athletic than Caucasians. Macedonians didn't change religion en masse simply to seize upon benefits conferred to Muslims. Albanians did. The level of criminality is clear and this is another (less savoury) side of the opportunism present in the Albanian race. Albanians seem to be more industrious and resourceful than their neighbours in the region. History supports this argument.

Not a bad summary Risto but Wikipedia manages to sum up the Albanian national psyche even better than you could I think. Admittedly, they are focusing specifically on Albanian crime but the tone of the article is as though the Albanians are born into a life of crime with their clan loyalties, blood oaths, besa traditions, etc...

Albanian organized crime is active in Europe, North America, South America, and various other parts of the world including the Middle East and Asia. The Albanian Mafia participates in a diverse range of criminal enterprises including trafficking in drugs, arms, humans, and human organs. The Albanian criminal scenario is characterized by diversified criminal plans which, in their complexity, show one of the highest criminal capacities in the world. In Albania alone, there are over 15 mafia families that control organized crime. According to WikiLeaks reports, the Albanian mafia has monopolized various international affiliations from as far east as Israel, to as far west as South America. These reports primarily indicate a strong connection between politicians and various Albanian mafia families. According to the Research Institute for European and American Studies (RIEAS), Albanian mafia groups are hybrid organizations (various sectors of society), often involved in both criminal and political activities.[1]

The Albanian Mafia, in its entirety, constitutes one of the highest crime generating elements in the world, combining the "traditional" characteristics – plainly manifest in the rigid internal discipline, in the clan structure, in the "endogamic closure" which increases the impermeability, the reliability and the endogenous solidity – with modern and innovative elements, such as trans-nationality, commercial imprinting and the criminogenous culture of service. The massive logistics to almost anywhere and the syncretic nature of Albanian crime has facilitated its establishment outside the mother country and its integration with the local criminality, exploiting the opportunities inherent in the entire compatriot network.

Staggering...But I'm sure Wikipedia is only referring to the few bad apples in the lot and not casting aspersions on all Albanians.

[Risto the Great]

I disagree with generalizations and some of the views expressed against the Albanians. It is no better than how the average Greeks view and treat Macedonians (as in the opinions we just read about in Neos Kosmos).

I think we can all rise above it, and treat each other with respect and honour.

FYI - Note about my family history:

- My ancestors were expelled from the Moschopole area by Muslim Albanians;
- Prior to that, as per tradition (which is possibly inaccurate, because this goes back to before Moschopole), my ancestors were driven from area just north of Ioannina by Muslim Albanian bands;
- More recently, late 19th/early 20th century my ancestors and their villages were frequently and repeatedly attacked/ransacked by Muslim Albanian kachak bands, completely unprovoked. (There was a murder/killing recorded.) In one famous case, the local Arman Orthodox populace organized themselves and fought back, recapturing the stolen goods as well as dealing a severe blow to the kachak band. There was a poem written/recorded which some years after even Albanians themselves translated into Albanian, and admired the heroism of these people (especially a couple of leaders) who fought on their own against the kachaks.

I think (based on the above) they generally like to invade.

They are an opportunistic people. Sure, that is a generalisation. It could even be understood to be a compliment. Like Negroids are thought to be more athletic than Caucasians. Macedonians didn't change religion en masse simply to seize upon benefits conferred to Muslims. Albanians did. The level of criminality is clear and this is another (less savoury) side of the opportunism present in the Albanian race. Albanians seem to be more industrious and resourceful than their neighbours in the region. History supports this argument.