Albanianization in Macedonia

[Bugi]

I meant ethnic Albanians of Macedonia who are in Kosovo.

There arent any macedonian albanians in Kosovo,but I do see in recent time a trend of more and more young kosovar albanians who come to study in albanian universities in Macedonia and stay there...

Because they are a minority. In particular because they have no desire to preserve the Macedonian nation. Also because the Vlachs and Turks and Serbs and whoever else are other minorities that will logically seek the same treatment.

All the other minorities make up 10% of the population,while the albanians are 30%!
well albanians should care about preserving the albanian nation,just as the macedonians should care about the macedonian...

Nevzat Halili had a idea few years ago that you didint even took under consideration:
Macedonia would be made out of two federal units with two parlaments-Macedonian parlament and Ilirida parlament and a main parlament dome where 50% of the deputies would be macedonians,40% albanians and 10% representatives of the other minorities.

Here is the main conclusion

Заклучоци од првото собрание на Р. Илирида:

1.Сегашната Македонија да се прогласи за Федерална Република Македонија
Внатрешното уредување да се прогласи за унија на два рамноправни народи односно Унија на Република Илирида и Македонија
2. Државната заедница да добие дводомен парламент со пропорционална застапеност на двата народа
3. На територијарта на целата држава да има два официјални службени јазици: албанскиот, македонскиот и англискиот како комуникативен
4. Насекаде во централните и локалните органи на Унијата на Илирида и Македонија да се веат албанското и македонското знаме
5. Федералната Република Македонија да има посебно знаме за кое знаме ќе се договарат двете Републики
6. Претседателот на Федерална Република Македонија да се избира на секои четри (4) години, при што би се менувало по принцип на ротација, две години таа функција да ја извршува Албанец, а преостанатите две години Македонец, под услов претседателот да ги познава двата службени јазици и задолжително англискиот како комуникативен
7. Двата државни етнитети да имаат своја армија, полиција и судство
8. Меѓусебните граници да се определат во текот на создавањето на Унијата.

[Bugi]

Albanians in Albania burning the national flag of Macedonia

And we return to the action and reaction part

before the macedonian flag being burned

[Risto the Great]

http://www.rts.rs/upload/storyBoxImageData/2012/03/13/9421392/albanska.jpg

Thanks for the Serbian linked picture.
Are Albanians still fighting Serbs in Macedonia?

[Niko777]

Albanians in Albania burning the national flag of Macedonia

http://www.netpress.com.mk/mk/vest.asp?id=100305&kategorija=1

Young crowd chanted "We want ethnic Albania" and "Down Macedonia" after which they burned the Macedonian flag....

This is the thanks Macedonia gets for hanging hundreds of Albanian flags on government buildings all over the country.

[Risto the Great]

There arent any macedonian albanians in Kosovo,but I do see in recent time a trend of more and more young kosovar albanians who come to study in albanian universities in Macedonia and stay there...

I wonder why they stay.

All the other minorities make up 10% of the population,while the albanians are 30%!
well albanians should care about preserving the albanian nation,just as the macedonians should care about the macedonian...

Nevzat Halili had a idea few years ago that you didint even took under consideration:
Macedonia would be made out of two federal units with two parlaments-Macedonian parlament and Ilirida parlament and a main parlament dome where 50% of the deputies would be macedonians,40% albanians and 10% representatives of the other minorities.

I do not believe your 30%. But even if it was true, why 40% representatives in the above?

It was a stupid idea that wasn't even worth entertaining because the agenda was a federalisation of Macedonia based on ethnicity.

If you are saying Albanians should care about preserving the Albanian nation, you are a fool. We are talking about Macedonian citizens here. If there interests are so firmly entrenched in another nation, they really should migrate there.

I note you didn't pursue your silly idea of veto powers for minorities. If your opinion has changed, will you vote for changes to the Macedonian constitution in order to restore normality?

[Bugi]

This is the thanks Macedonia gets for hanging hundreds of Albanian flags on government buildings all over the country.

Like you were gona hang them if the albanians didint start uprising...

[Zarni]

Piss this bastard off admin he has been given an opportunity and speaks well for what Albanians desire, Greater Albania and the Destruction of the Macedonian State through the proxy of Human Rights and endless concessions amount to special status unseen in any Country on Earth for a restless minority

[Bugi]

http://www.rts.rs/upload/storyBoxIma...2/albanska.jpg

Thanks for the Serbian linked picture.
Are Albanians still fighting Serbs in Macedonia?

As I said,action and reaction

Shkup, digjet flamuri shqiptar.flv - YouTube

[Zarni]

And we return to the action and reaction part

before the macedonian flag being burned

I saw that posted on a Albanian Forum it occured in Northern Kosovo

[Risto the Great]

If Bugi is representative of ethnic Albanians in Macedonia, then his opinion and thoughts are useful here on some levels. I still get the impression most ethnic Albanians of Macedonia are under the belief that they will be the majority in Macedonia one day, therefore they deserve privileged status in Macedonia immediately. This is obviously a flawed perspective and in many ways dangerous for the Macedonian nation.

Macedonians could make this problem go away in one week if they choose to. Unfortunately they are too self-absorbed to worry about it.

[Bugi]

I do not believe your 30%. But even if it was true, why 40% representatives in the above?

It was a stupid idea that wasn't even worth entertaining because the agenda was a federalisation of Macedonia based on ethnicity.

If you are saying Albanians should care about preserving the Albanian nation, you are a fool. We are talking about Macedonian citizens here. If there interests are so firmly entrenched in another nation, they really should migrate there.

I note you didn't pursue your silly idea of veto powers for minorities. If your opinion has changed, will you vote for changes to the Macedonian constitution in order to restore normality?

citizenship doesnt mean a nation

albanians are part of the albanian nation,they are just macedonian citizens!

Macedonia will hve to be redifined as a state,if it isn't done soon it will be a big setback in the relations of the future albanian and macedonian generations in Macedonia...
that is the best way to make the albanians feel Macedonia as their own,the way they feel Kosovo or Albania as their own.

[lavce pelagonski]

Bugi how do you feel about your peoples actions after the '99 nato Bombings of Kosovo and the relocation of 300,000 Albanians to Macedonia with full citizenship. How did you repay our hospitality, we saved you from the Serbs and NATO.

How did you repay us?

[lavce pelagonski]

Macedonia is for the Macedonians as you state you are only a citizen so you ie the shiptars have no right in you deluded idea of ilirida.

[Bugi]

Bugi how do you feel about your peoples actions after the '99 nato Bombings of Kosovo and the relocation of 300,000 Albanians to Macedonia with full citizenship. How did you repay our hospitality, we saved you from the Serbs and NATO.

How did you repay us?

LOL
why are you telling me something that even you dont believe in?

you never done anything for the albanians because you cared,you did it under preassure from the international community or UCK and the albanian political factor in the country.

[George S.]

So what right have you got to create a state within a state.macedonia was never your country.Remember the albanians got kicked out by the communists so they went to ksovo,macedonia & serbia.Being thrown out of your native? albania how does that feel as you try & feel a proud albanian taking the macedonia's homeland??