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  • Big Bad Sven
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 1528

    Originally posted by The LION will ROAR View Post
    НЕМА ОСУДА ЗА ТЕРИТОРИЈАЛНИТЕ ПРЕТЕНЗИИ НА ПРИШТИНА KОН СKОПЈЕ

    Kосово се пресметува со Србија на грбот на Македонија


    Statement by Vice President of the Kosovo Assembly, Xhavit Haliti, that if changes occur Kosovo has borders will require part of Macedonia, the ruling DUI interpreted as a warning, not as a threat or territorial claims of Kosovo to Macedonia



    I think this statement is more then just a Warning.....for Macedonians
    Watch now how DPmNE allows shiptars to build more mosques, albanian cultural centers, start turning albanian terrorists into macedonian heroes and change more signs and names into the shiptar language and promote more unqualified shiptars in higher places in government - maybe that will help make the shiptars quite and respect macedonia more like it did in the past (not)

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    • Brian
      Banned
      • Oct 2011
      • 1130

      statement is logically warning about what would happen if they violate the rule that no change of borders. In such a situation is no longer important what they think Kosovo officials, but politicians-Albanians from Macedonia. If the Serbs of Kosovo believe that every street in which they live is Serbian, then it is expected the Albanians in Macedonia think that belongs to every street where they live. Statement Haliti more I see it as prevention rather than a threat, that if Kosovo politicians have such intentions it can not do otherwise - says analyst Kim Mehmeti.
      It's from the same article above.

      What does whatever Serbia does have to do with Macedonia?

      The way I read it, 'If the tough guy (Serbia) grabs their land then they will grab the piss-weak guy's (Macedonia) land.' If that's not a threat, what is?

      I'm sure there's Albanians living in Serbia proper, then if they are so tough why don't they suggest the Albanians living in Serbia claim every street they live in as Albanian?
      Last edited by Brian; 02-15-2012, 08:55 PM.

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      • ProMKD
        Member
        • Oct 2011
        • 367

        Originally posted by George S. View Post
        Niko risto has got a valid point.You have to also know why the albanians are doing it.They were kicked out by the communists after world war 2 so in essence there can not be going back to albania as a muslim.So what are the albanians doing is creating their own country.At the moment a countey within a country & eventually to take over the whole of macedonia.Precisely we are victims of the balkan mindset.This has happened countless times.Where is macedonia to be seen fighting for her freedom to link up the rest of macedonia together as one.They can't even keep the one together at the moment.
        Are you saying that shiptars can't go back to albania because they are muslim? If so, to bardovci. (mental hospital just outside of Skopje for those that don't know).
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        • Niko777
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 1895

          I don't care what anyone says, this is an official territorial claim from Kosovo!!!

          The Macedonian government should:
          a) close borders with Kosovo
          b) withdraw recognition
          c) issue a trade embargo

          If the Macedonian government does not at least condemn the statement, than Macedonia has sunk even further to a new low where it will never see the light of day!

          Now I really want Kosovo to partition to see how it will play out...

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          • Risto the Great
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 15660

            Originally posted by Niko777 View Post
            If the Macedonian government does not at least condemn the statement, than Macedonia has sunk even further to a new low where it will never see the light of day!
            It won't and it has.
            Risto the Great
            MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
            "Holding my breath for the revolution."

            Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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            • MKPrilep
              Member
              • Mar 2009
              • 284

              Code:
              And for some reason the new churches that do get built are usually the size of a small room that can fit 10 people and they are never built in proper Byzantine proportions but rather are done in a very plain non-traditional manner. Whereas the mosques that are being built are very tall with wide domes so that anyone that is passing by cannot help but notice them.
              I agree with you 100%
              I always asked me how it΄s possible
              that the albaniens build in every corner of macedonia a new huge mosque,
              of which you can see the rockets from a distance
              and the macedonians are not capable to build new churches
              and if, it is always a small church.
              In Prilep they are now building a new, bigger church but it took
              a few years and several donate actions.
              But around prilep, each village has a big mosque.
              How is that possible?
              Unfortunately I have to say it΄s not only criminal money but their faith is much stronger than ours.
              No one wants to donate for new churches and if they achieve to collect some money,
              then some idtiot steals it like last year in the village prilepec.

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              • lavce pelagonski
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2009
                • 1993

                Vojna vo Makedonija 2001 - War in Macedonia 2001 - pesna za Karpalak - YouTube
                Стравот на Атина од овој Македонец одел до таму што го нарекле „Страшниот Чакаларов“ „гркоубиец“ и „крвожеден комитаџија“.

                „Ако знам дека тука тече една капка грчка крв, јас сега би ја отсекол целата рака и би ја фрлил в море.“ Васил Чакаларов

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                • Volk
                  Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 894



                  Amid Doubts, Macedonia Doubles NATO Membership Efforts

                  Macedonia is working to achieve its strategic goal -- NATO as well as EU membership -- and is undertaking a diplomatic offensive to attain membership in the Alliance at the upcoming Chicago summit in May.

                  "We should do everything to succeed, but must be aware this may not give the desired results," former Ambassador Risto Nikovski told SETimes.

                  Many analysts believe Macedonia will likely not succeed in Chicago given Greece's opposition -- NATO enlargement so far is not on the summit agenda -- and should consequently expand its existing relationships.

                  "Macedonia has alternatives it should work out and they need not include Eurasia," Nikovski said.

                  Options include better exploiting opportunities of the Strategic Partnership Agreement with the United States, strengthening the partnership with Turkey and other countries, but also approaching Israel, according to analyst Jovan Donev of the Euro Balkan Institute.

                  "It is harder and may cost more, but we should try. ...We are not married to NATO or the EU. Many countries are not members but are very prosperous and successful," Donev told SETimes.

                  Polls have consistently shown about 90% approval rate for NATO and EU membership, with periodic drops in support.

                  Nearly 40% of the polled say, however, Macedonia's name should be preserved at the cost of foregoing membership, according to the local NGO Macedonian Centre for International Co-operation.

                  "EU-scepticism and NATO-scepticism here are far lower than the conditions and the treatment posed by NATO and the EU would suggest. ... We are ready to wait, to tolerate," Nikovski said.

                  The opposition however, criticised the government for sending mixed messages to Brussels while announcing it pursues a diplomatic offensive for Chicago.

                  "We have been calling on the prime minister to ... say whether Macedonia has another alternative, because the road without NATO is very steep, very tough," Social Democratic Union Vice President Gordan Georgiev said.

                  Opposition Liberal Democratic Party representative Nano Ruzhin blames the government's strategy for diminishing Macedonia's Euro-Atlantic prospects long-term.

                  "It has a dampening influence over us -- the funds for army reforms are reduced and the discipline to respect democratic standards lowered," Ruzhin told SETimes.

                  The Albanian Democratic Union for Integration (DUI) party -- a governing coalition partner -- is the only relative corrector to the government's approach, according to Ruzhin.

                  "If the (ruling) VMRO-DPMNE must choose between the name and NATO, they clearly say they will chose the name. If DUI must choose between NATO and being in power, they will likely choose being comfortable and the economic benefits that go with being in government," he said.

                  Former Foreign Affairs Minister Slobodan Chashule told SETimes the opposition claims are utopian.

                  "Macedonia is dedicated to NATO membership as never before and there is no straying from the course. The daily lobbying efforts by our officials are unbeatable proof we consider the US to be our number one strategic partner," Chashule said.

                  "No less important, Macedonia has intensive co-operation with Turkey, the US's biggest ally in the region, and we participate in the military mission in Afghanistan and in Iraq and did in Bosnia before that," he added.

                  Albanian analysts argue any option other than Euro-Atlantic integration can be dangerous to Macedonia's multi-ethnic stability.

                  "We must know that NATO and the EU are the only pillars that are holding our survival. Without them, there is no state," FON University Professor Mersel Biljali told SETimes.
                  You can imagine what this university professor is teaching his students
                  Makedonija vo Srce

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                  • Niko777
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 1895

                    Because the real mosques were not enough...
                    A new fad in Skopje has started where Albanians are building mosques out of snow.



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                    • lavce pelagonski
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 1993

                      This is official letters written in shiptarski from minister besimi.

                      Стравот на Атина од овој Македонец одел до таму што го нарекле „Страшниот Чакаларов“ „гркоубиец“ и „крвожеден комитаџија“.

                      „Ако знам дека тука тече една капка грчка крв, јас сега би ја отсекол целата рака и би ја фрлил в море.“ Васил Чакаларов

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                      • United MKD
                        Member
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 547

                        Such proud Muslims these shiptari are they will build 10 mosques in their little village then go into a nightclub or a cafe and start drinking and smoking away.

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                        • George S.
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 10116

                          pro mkd do you know your history why we got the albanian problem.After the 2nd world war the albanians were kicked out yes foe being fanatical muslims as the communists didn't likr religion with their politics.So at the moment observe how they are building mosqes in macedonia.You go to albania you can only find one mosque as the population is mostly catholic.So in essence the albanians can't go back as they are not wanted by their catholic brethern.That's why they are eagerly building mosques in macedonia ,you could call it greater albania.
                          As someone mentioned before that it's a matter of time until they link with kosovo.Macedonia had not much choice but to recognise kosovo.Given their minorities being albanian.So in essence they are just giving in to them.Long term goal to claim macedonia as a prize & link with kosovo.
                          Last edited by George S.; 02-17-2012, 02:57 AM. Reason: ed
                          "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                          GOTSE DELCEV

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                          • George S.
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 10116

                            united mkd very devoted the albanians they are but think about their long term goal to take macedonia for themselves.
                            lwr that shiptar minister he should learn to speak& write macedonian i suppose he probably can but only wants albanian foremost this is like slap in the face.
                            Last edited by George S.; 02-17-2012, 03:11 AM.
                            "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                            GOTSE DELCEV

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                            • Niko777
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 1895

                              Is this the new Macedonian language?

                              (Document from the Minister of National Defense)

                              Originally posted by lavce pelagonski View Post
                              This is official letters written in shiptarski from minister besimi.

                              Last edited by Niko777; 02-17-2012, 02:37 PM.

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                              • Niko777
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 1895

                                No comment.

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