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  • Venom
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    • Sep 2008
    • 445

    "German Multiculturalism Has Failed"

    BERLIN: Germany's attempts to create a multicultural society in which people from various cultural backgrounds live together peacefully has failed, the Chancellor, Angela Merkel, says.


    Multiculturalism in Germany has failed, says Chancellor
    October 18, 2010

    BERLIN: Germany's attempts to create a multicultural society in which people from various cultural backgrounds live together peacefully has failed, the Chancellor, Angela Merkel, says.

    Multikulti, the concept that ''we are now living side by side and are happy about it'', does not work, Dr Merkel told a meeting of younger members of her conservative Christian Democratic Union (CDU) party at Potsdam near Berlin at the weekend. ''This approach has failed, totally,'' she said.

    Dr Merkel spoke a week after talks with the Turkish Prime Minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, in which they pledged to do more to improve the poor integration record of Germany's 2.5-million-strong Turkish community.

    Horst Seehofer, the leader of the CDU's Bavarian sister party, CSU, told the same party meeting that the two parties were ''committed to a dominant German culture and opposed to a multicultural one''.

    ''Multikulti is dead,'' he said.

    While warning against ''immigration that weighs down on our social system'', Dr Merkel said Germany needed specialists from overseas to keep the pace of its economic development.

    The head of the chamber of commerce and industry, Hans Heinrich Driftmann, said Germany was in urgent need of about 400,000 engineers and qualified workers.

    ''The lack is causing a loss of growth of about 1 per cent,'' he said in an interview.

    Jewish leaders, meanwhile, warned that German society and democracy were under threat from extremists. A recent study should prompt the government to act against anti-democratic ideas, the secretary-general of the Central Council of Jews, Stephan Kramer, told the Rheinpfalz am Sonntag weekly.

    Mr Kramer criticised Mr Seehofer for ideas he said were ''not only petty but outright irresponsible'' and called the immigration debate ''hysterical''.

    The study, by the Friedrich Ebert Foundation, showed that more than a third (34.3 per cent) of the 2411 people surveyed believed the country's 16 million immigrants or people with foreign origins came for the social benefits.

    About the same number (35.6 per cent) think Germany is being ''overrun by foreigners'' and more than one in 10 called for a ''fuehrer'' to run the country ''with a strong hand''.

    Agence France-Presse
    Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't this the woman who was telling Macedonians to ensure they live side by side with Albanians etc?
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  • Risto the Great
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 15661

    #2
    Originally posted by Venom View Post
    http://www.smh.com.au/world/multicul...017-16p7h.html



    Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't this the woman who was telling Macedonians to ensure they live side by side with Albanians etc?
    We already have this on another thread.
    But it is certainly worth repeating.
    Yes, the hypocrisy is so chumpy you could carve it.
    Risto the Great
    MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
    "Holding my breath for the revolution."

    Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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    • Soldier of Macedon
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 13676

      #3
      Too bad that idiot member 'freifrau' couldn't contain his stupidity for a little while longer, because he was claiming the exact opposite to the above.
      In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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      • Dimko-piperkata
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 1876

        #4
        merkel is worthless like my female neighbour is.

        merkel is only, like all german chancelorīs after ww2 were, marionettes of the victorious powers.

        the german reich never gives up the war...and this fake land BRD is only like a "limited company"...not for nothing the germans "id card" (lichna karta) is called "staff-identification"...yes, the germans are the slaves of the victorious powers...

        "nur ein fleißiger deutscher ist ein guter deutscher"

        YouTube - EU Passport and Baphomet Idol *

        in whole europe and especially in the BeNeLux, scandinavia and germany the islam cancer is spreading.
        I prognosticate that within 2 years complete europe will burn.
        a clash of ideologies will culminate in an very bloodly "civilwar"

        YouTube - Interview Udo Ulfkotte sur RT
        1) Macedonians belong to the "older" Mediterranean substratum...
        2) Macedonians are not related with geographically close Greeks, who do not belong to the "older" Mediterranenan substratum...

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        • Frank
          Banned
          • Mar 2010
          • 687

          #5
          What would he say if you asked him about the excessive privileges Albanians have in Macedonian and how the Macedonians were so demonised during 2001

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          • DirtyCodingHabitz
            Member
            • Sep 2010
            • 835

            #6
            This guy knows what he's talking about

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            • Soldier of Macedon
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 13676

              #7
              Originally posted by Dimko
              the german reich never gives up the war......
              Dimko, it almost seems as though you're referring to the continuation of the 'reich' from WWII. Is that the war which they haven't given up?
              In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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              • PetarMKD
                Junior Member
                • Aug 2010
                • 30

                #8
                Well the Germans needed the emigrants to rebuild their country after WW2 and after they completed their job now all of a sudden they are not allowed to enjoy what they contributed in the development of Germany??? I feel sorry for the nazis but they will have to accept the fact that 5 milions muslims are part of their country and learn to live in a multicultural society. Don't forget that after the Turks most of the emigrants in Germany are from ex Yugoslavian countries, so we are next on their list.
                Last edited by PetarMKD; 10-25-2010, 12:37 AM.

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                • Onur
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 2389

                  #9
                  Originally posted by PetarMKD View Post
                  Well the Germans needed the emigrants to rebuild their country after WW2 and after they completed their job now all of a sudden they are not allowed to enjoy what they contributed in the development of Germany??? I feel sorry for the nazis but they will have to accept the fact that 5 milions muslims are part of their country and learn to live in a multicultural society.
                  %100 agree to you.

                  Their country has been destroyed by western powers and divided by Russians after WW-2 and they needed huge labor force because there wasn't even enough men in western Germany to work in their factories. So they invited as many as people possible from Turkey after late 1950s to do their dirty and hard work. Ofc only the most ignorant people from rural areas of Turkey answered their call. Besides, they wanted these jobless people because only they were suitable to do that kind of work. So, most of the people who gone to western Germany were Kurds from eastern Anatolia. They accepted 100.000s of people from Turkey at 1960s and their only requirement was being healthy. So, having an health certificate was enough to go there and Germans was happy have them in those days. It was obvious that the hard jobs was waiting them in Germany so people who had a job to do in Turkey or people who had some education didn't even try to go there.


                  So these people did their dirty work and contributed their industrial development post-WW2 but Germans don't need them anymore, so they wanna dump `em now like a thrash.





                  Don't forget that after the Turks most of the emigrants in Germany are from ex Yugoslavian countries, so we are next on their list.
                  Yes. Do not think that others than Turks are safe from German`s wrath. You know that when things become rough in there, every non-German can be a target for them. Yes, maybe Turks can be on top their target list but Balkan people are definitely not down below the list.

                  If European Union abolishes itself in the future, i expect Germans to expel every non-German element out from their country and French, British would follow same procedure for sure.

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                  • El Bre
                    Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 713

                    #10
                    The issue is multiculturalism, not immigration. The fact that people aren't integrating into their host societies is what Merkel is on about.
                    Last edited by El Bre; 10-25-2010, 07:23 AM.

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                    • makedonin
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 1668

                      #11
                      Originally posted by El Bre View Post
                      The issue is multiculturalism, not immigration. The fact that people aren't integrating into their host societies is what Merkel is on about.
                      That is the half truth. The first part of their argument is that they are against people who are third generation and still can't speak German and can't really take part into the German society. I could relatively agree with this, while it makes me sick and angry that they are hipocrits when siding up with the Albanians when the same issues are refered in Macedonia. However the current situation only proves my hypothesis, that Macedonia was the EU lab rat on which they experimented the multiculturalism at first place.

                      The second part of the puzzle is that they don't want to import ordinary workers. Instead they are aiming at high skilled workers such as scientists, IT etc.
                      How ever this are the liberals such as SPD, the Greens etc.
                      The conservatives such as CSU/CDU (Merkels party) are more extreme and claim that they don't even need such people and skilled workers. At the moment they want to avoid any imigration at all, and claim that they can reeducate the unimployed workers to become IT specialist etc, which by the way is complete insane idea and can't never work.

                      Still, multiculturalism did not had any chance at first place. Those workers were intended to come do their job and go home.
                      So, they were not intended to stay and so that was the attitude with which they were dealed at first place. The immigrants felt marginalized, so they built their own paralel societies, and so on and so on. The mass that it is today, is to blame on the both sides. Noone intended and intends to live in a multicultured society.

                      I will go so far to claim that humans are not able to live in multicultural society with out starting a war, at least not in EU.
                      Last edited by makedonin; 10-25-2010, 08:31 AM.
                      To enquire after the impression behind an idea is the way to remove disputes concerning nature and reality.

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                      • Dimko-piperkata
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 1876

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View Post
                        Dimko, it almost seems as though you're referring to the continuation of the 'reich' from WWII. Is that the war which they haven't given up?
                        if the term "REICH" is used, then it is always HITLERīs era meant by.

                        and yes, I mean, and that is true, that the leader of the 3rd reich never signed a capitulation.

                        the 3rd reich elite escaped, respectively they retreated.
                        1) Macedonians belong to the "older" Mediterranean substratum...
                        2) Macedonians are not related with geographically close Greeks, who do not belong to the "older" Mediterranenan substratum...

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                        • Dimko-piperkata
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 1876

                          #13
                          Originally posted by PetarMKD View Post
                          Well the Germans needed the emigrants to rebuild their country after WW2 and after they completed their job now all of a sudden they are not allowed to enjoy what they contributed in the development of Germany??? I feel sorry for the nazis but they will have to accept the fact that 5 milions muslims are part of their country and learn to live in a multicultural society. Don't forget that after the Turks most of the emigrants in Germany are from ex Yugoslavian countries, so we are next on their list.
                          totally wrong bro.

                          the germans should be eleminated after the ww2, but how to "kill" more than 80millions (germans, austrians)?

                          some of the victorious powers said that it would be more beneficial if the occupied deutsches reich and the germans should be transformate into a agrarian economy, so the powers could get very cheap agrar products.

                          some of the victorious suggested, the germans should be all sterilized.

                          but at bottom line the victorious powers agreed, that the germans should be assimilated by foreigners.
                          currently in germany lived 20millions aliens with a muslim background and altogehter 30millions aliens.

                          every 3rd newborn has an alien background...ther plan was seemingly succesfully
                          ...sad but true.

                          Iīve read that the plan behind the coming ww3, is to stir up the big religions
                          1) Macedonians belong to the "older" Mediterranean substratum...
                          2) Macedonians are not related with geographically close Greeks, who do not belong to the "older" Mediterranenan substratum...

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                          • A-Lion-The-Kiss
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 14

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Onur View Post
                            So these people did their dirty work and contributed their industrial development post-WW2 but Germans don't need them anymore, so they wanna dump `em now like a thrash.
                            Nobody's saying that. Actually, Germany always had strict rules for providing German citizenship. Maybe you had to spend decades there. Also dual citizenship is not accepted. So you have to abandon Greek or Turkish citizenship to take the German one. (I think I agree with that).

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                            Last edited by Daskalot; 10-26-2010, 03:58 AM. Reason: offensive picture removed

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                            • fyrOM
                              Banned
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 2180

                              #15
                              Thin edge of the wedge maybe.

                              Looking for a shooter who shoots on immigrants in Malmo

                              Потрагата по стрелецот кој пука врз имигранти во шведскиот град Малме продолжува со несмален интензитет. Сега по сторителот не трага само полицијата, туку и криминални групи, пишува “Свенска дагбладет“, посочувајќи дека


                              Gothenburg, October 25, 2010 (Reuters) - The search for the shooter who shoots on immigrants in the Swedish city of Malmo continues with the same intensity.
                              Now after searching by not only police, but criminal groups, writes Svenska dagbladet, citing sources that the police did not confirm these data, MIA reports from Gothenburg.

                              - He can only hope that we will find it first, said one member of a criminal group known in southern Sweden.

                              Swedish police have not yet arrested anyone in connection with a series rendered unclear shooting aimed at people with an immigrant background in the area of Malmo.

                              Police warned citizens to be cautious if out alone at night and the night.

                              So far this year in southern Sweden registered unclear fifty shots, which is believed to be behind the assassinations standing one or a few very dangerous people.

                              Given that all the victims except one, had an immigrant background, police investigation, among other things, is geared towards extreme right-wing groups.

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