"German Multiculturalism Has Failed"

[Soldier of Macedon]

i for myself am very proud of my white skin and blue eyes...if u som, wants to be black, then its your problem.

Dimko, go for a holiday outside of Germany mate, go and see the real world and leave this garbage ideology in Deutchland. One minute its about Muslims, next about coloured races, zbirai pamet malce, sramota e ova sho go velis.

"they" (god or godīs) created (after the big war with satan (bad god)) some hundreds or thousands of each of the dominant races (white, black, yellow maybe red too)

Absolute garbage.

[DirtyCodingHabitz]

Dimko, go for a holiday outside of Germany mate, go and see the real world and leave this garbage ideology in Deutchland. One minute its about Muslims, next about coloured races, zbirai pamet malce, sramota e ova sho go velis.

So its wrong for him to feel proud of being white and having blue eyes? we aren't white because our ancestors were race mixing, we are white because our ancestors were breeding with our own. There's no need to tell him to go on a holiday just because he's proud of his white skin.

How would you feel if I tell you to go on a holiday because you're proud of being Macedonian? its not wrong to say the truth and what you feel about your people and being proud of being white.

I am proud of my white race and Macedonian identity :P

[Soldier of Macedon]

Are you implying that all darker-skinned and/or brown-eyed (Macedonians or otherwise) people should be ashamed of themselves, as opposed to the 'proud' "Aryan" types? If so, you're a racist. Are you equating being Macedonian with having white skin and/or blue eyes? If so, you're an ignorant fool. Just for your information, I hate racists, I consider them the scum of the earth - an earth that belongs to all of us and not any single race.

Do you utter racist remarks under your breath when you see a darker skinned fellow walk by? Try saying it out aloud to the next Tongan or Maori you come across, see how interested they are in your views. Anything I say here at the MTO I am prepared to say in person. You clearly aren't. For somebody that claims to be from cosmopolitan Melbourne, you must hide under a rock or skirt when you leave the house.

[DirtyCodingHabitz]

Here we go again with you and your closet racism.

You really like calling people racist. You even call greeks racist when infact we are white as well so they can't be racist to us. Find other words to describe people or countries.

Are you implying that all darker-skinned and brown-eyed Macedonians should be ashamed of themselves

I'm brown eyed. I never said they should be. I said they shouldn't be ashamed of being Macedonian or even if they are darker-skinned.

as opposed to the 'proud' "Aryan" types?

I never use the term Aryan to describe the European Race.

Are you equating being Macedonian with having white skin and blue eyes?

We have Macedonians with very white skin, average white skin and fair-skinned with different type of eye colors. I will always say they should be proud of what they are and never be ashamed of it.

Do you utter racist remarks under your breath when you see a darker skinned fellow walk by? Try saying it out aloud to the next Tongan or Maori you come across, see how interested they are in your views. Anything I say here at the MTO I am prepared to say in person. You clearly aren't. For somebody that claims to be from cosmopolitan Melbourne, you must hide under a rock or skirt when you leave the house.

Sometimes you really need to relax. Its like someone has threatened your life and you have to reply with all these nonsense questions and accusing someone of being racist.

[Bill77]

You really like calling people racist. You even call greeks racist when infact we are white as well so they can't be racist to us. Find other words to describe people or countries.

Infact, race has nothing to do with colour. Race refers to classifications of humans into populations or groups based on various factors, such as their culture, language, social practice etc.

So no need to defend Greeks.

[DirtyCodingHabitz]

Infact, race has nothing to do with colour. Race refers to classifications of humans into populations or groups based on various factors, such as their culture, language, social practice etc.

So no need to defend Greeks.

No one is defending greeks. What I'm trying to say is that Europeans are classified as a race and greeks can't be racist to us or we can't be racist to them, we are both Europeans. In America its different because people identify them selfs as a European race but also as a white race. I know race has nothing to do with color but Europeans are white and now the term race is used on peoples color.

Race can be misleading as the word Aryan used to describe Europeans or whites.

[julie]

SOM well said on all counts, am very disappointed in Dimko and in DCH
DCH this comment .........I said they shouldn't be ashamed of being Macedonian or even if they are darker-skinned.

How dare you, you are the one that should be ashamed of yourself and if I was your mother, would put you over my knee and spank your bottom until you could not sit down on it!!!!!

You can now hate my guts as my family you would not consider as worthy.

I am blonde and blue eyed HOWEVER
1. My grandparents and my dad's side from RoM - baba had hazel eyes, dedo had blue eyes. Their 7 children that survived infancy were a mixture of brown, blue and green eyed children. NONE were blonde, brown hair, auburn and black hair. Skin colour was a combination of fair, and average colouring, quite non descript

My grandparents on my mum's side from Egejska makedonia
baba - blue eyes, blonde hair and very fair skin
dedo - OLIVE SKINNED, BROWN eyes, dark hair.
4 children had brown eyes, 2 green eyes, blue eyes

2. My children (am getting to the point)
eldest son - light green/blue eyes, fair skin, straight brown hair
middle son - hazel eyes, curly black hair, olive skinned
youngest son - hazel eyes, black hair, dark olive skin

My first husband was born in SRI LANKA. An Asian.
An Asian that ensured the boys be brought up within the confines of the Macedonian Orthodox church. Who learnt to speak Macedonian

I see red when I see fellow Macedonians with a holier than thou attitude on the supremacy of their fair skin and blue eyes and the supremacy in their stance on being so far superior than anyone else.
People like that are racist. In every way. How the hell do you expect Macedonians to be recognized as an equal in this world when I read what is eschewed as garbage

Dimko, dont quote from Buddha, you are far from the likes of Buddhist philosophies, 1980 degrees apart.

Every soul on this earth is an equal in this world. No one is any better or worse, superior or inferior to anyone else. Every soul has the right to basic self determination and the right to practice their own beliefs, have their own language and should have those rights within the confines of a lawful society.

Such hatred and contempt is disgusting. People that set themselves that far up in life will have few friends.
Every person should be treated with respect, and if you cant do something that is good for others, dont do anything for them at all

I am so proud of my boys. As a mother and a member of this society, I have brought them up with values and morals and decency, to have compassion for all, and to be loving and honourable young men.
They have a large group of close friends each, from diverse backgrounds.
How can you expect respect from other nationalities when you have such contempt for them?
And NO .....NOT ALL greeks are to be held in contempt. There are many out there that are sympathetic to the Macedonians.
if you go around with anger and with a superiority complex, you will find no support for the Macedonian cause

There is a video of Tose when he was here in Ho0mebush Sydney for the Olympics
he asked an indigenous Australian to play the didgeridoo to my favourite Macedonian song, Zajdi, zajdi
My hero Tose

[Bill77]

What I'm trying to say is that Europeans are classified as a race and greeks can't be racist to us or we can't be racist to them, we are both Europeans.

Geographicly, we come from the same region as greeks. But thats where it stops.

When it comes to Race, ie; culture, language, social practice or heritable characteristics, genetics, ......... We are different to greeks.

We can go into how different we are if you like? but it has to be another thread. All i am trying to get at, we can be racists to each other and SOM would be correct if he was to call "some" greeks racists, for hating or denying our racial (culture, language, social practice or heritable characteristics, genetics) characteristics.

[DirtyCodingHabitz]

All I'm trying to defend here is that its not right to call someone a racist if he's proud of being white or have blue eyes. Would any of you dare to call a black person a racist if he says "I'm a proud black man I love my African race"?

I never said anything against if someone is lighter-skinned or fair-skinned or blue eyed and brown eyed. Everyone should be proud of what they are no matter what.

I'm a proud Macedonian, proud to have brown eyes and proud of my European race. What's wrong with what I just said? did I spread hatred or offend anyone? how can I offend someone if I'm expressing my feelings?

Everyone should be proud of what they are and not get called a racist just because the person is white and that he's proud of being white.

When it comes to Race, ie; culture, language, social practice or heritable characteristics, genetics, ......... We are different to greeks.

Yes that's true. But also we belong to the European race. But that doesn't mean we can't hate each other or disagree with opinions etc.

We can go into how different we are if you like? but it has to be another thread.

I understand how different we are so there's no need to make other topics.

All i am trying to get at, we can be racists to each other and SOM would be correct if he was to call "some" greeks racists, for hating or denying our racial (culture, language, social practice or heritable characteristics, genetics) characteristics.

You can call them haters for hating us. You can call them fascists or ignorant etc. But I guess you can call them racist because they feel that they are a superior European people and we are just some gypsies to them.

[Soldier of Macedon]

You even call greeks racist when infact we are white as well so they can't be racist to us.

You really have no idea, do you "white boy"? View it in a broader context and not in the narrow and ignorant way that you currently do. The UN avoids defining the term 'racism' so they use 'racial discrimination' instead, see below.

http://www.hri.org/docs/ICERD66.html

In this Convention, the term "racial discrimination" shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life.

Don't worry, not all Greeks are racist. Not all Macedonians aren't.

I said they shouldn't be ashamed of being Macedonian or even if they are darker-skinned.

Garbage. Don't lie to cover your own tracks, because you never said the above. What you did say is I am proud of my white race and Macedonian identity. You connected 'pride', the 'white race' and the Macedonian identity. Teshko tebe za pamet, like the colour of your skin, or the skin of an Asian, or the skin of an African makes any of you any better than the next moron sitting next to them.

Its like someone has threatened your life and you have to reply with all these nonsense questions and accusing someone of being racist.

No, I just respect people with integrity. Look the word up and then come back to me "white boy". Se prepavas tuka kako nekoi maz a ko glusec mozi se krijas pred lugje.

[Bill77]

All I'm trying to defend here is that its not right to call someone a racist if he's proud of being white or have blue eyes. Would any of you dare to call a black person a racist if he says "I'm a proud black man I love my African race"?

I never said anything against if someone is lighter-skinned or fair-skinned or blue eyed and brown eyed. Everyone should be proud of what they are no matter what.

I'm a proud Macedonian, proud to have brown eyes and proud of my European race. What's wrong with what I just said? did I spread hatred or offend anyone? how can I offend someone if I'm expressing my feelings?

Everyone should be proud of what they are and not get called a racist just because the person is white and that he's proud of being white.

Nothing wrong with being proud of your Race, colour or religion. Its a good thing.

But hating someone elses is the real problem. You can't be a racist for loving yours aslong as you don't hate or wish anothers to disapear, which is what many greeks think towards us Macedonians.

[DirtyCodingHabitz]

You really have no idea, do you "white boy"? View it in a broader context and not in the narrow and ignorant way that you currently do. The UN avoids defining the term 'racism' so they use 'racial discrimination' instead, see below.

You love the UN so much but they don't like us very much. So I guess the UN is racist as well because they discriminate us because of greece.

But hating someone elses is the real problem. You can't be a racist for loving yours aslong as you don't hate or wish anothers to disapear, which is what many greeks think towards us Macedonians.

I don't hater other people. I got African and Asian friends too. I'm just proud of who I am and they are proud of who they are. Doesn't mean we are racist.

Garbage. Don't lie to cover your own tracks, because you never said the above. What you did say is I am proud of my white race and Macedonian identity. You connected 'pride', the 'white race' and the Macedonian identity. Teshko tebe za pamet, like the colour of your skin, or the skin of an Asian, or the skin of an African makes any of you any better than the next moron sitting next to them.

By "White Race" I mean European Race, by "European Race" I mean everyone that's European regardless of lighter or darker skin color, and regardless of using the term "white" because I'm referring to European race. I hope I explained this right.

[Daskalot]

We have Macedonians with very white skin, average white skin and fair-skinned with different type of eye colors. I will always say they should be proud of what they are and never be ashamed of it.

To be using terminology as the above shows only of racism. No one would use such terminology if they have not touched upon the subject of racial pureness and eugenics.

[Dimko-piperkata]

Dimko, go for a holiday outside of Germany mate, go and see the real world and leave this garbage ideology in Deutchland. One minute its about Muslims, next about coloured races, zbirai pamet malce, sramota e ova sho go velis.

Absolute garbage.

1
i think u know very well that i spend my holidays often times in turkey, tunesia or egypt.

u have to begin to realize that the white race, and that has nothing to do with any nazi ideology, is going to die out ! this is a fact

2
"Absolute garbage"
really? whats your thesis how the human earth race got their existence

[Onur]

u have to begin to realize that the white race, and that has nothing to do with any nazi ideology, is going to die out ! this is a fact

Kardesh, then you can marry and have 5+ white babies, so your white race doesn't die. This is "white race"`s own problem, not related with blacks, Jews or muslims.

Neo-Nazis in German world better put their sex toys and leather cloths aside and remember the primary purpose of having sex with woman, ehh? Hating from muslims, blacks or Jews wont do any good to the population of "pretty" white race!!!. So, you guys better focus your energy to having sex with your legal wives to have babies, not with sluts you see in the streets.