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  • Atesh
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 27

    Hi everybody

    Hi everybody, I'm a new member, my english is so bad, but I'll do effort. I'm 18, I live in France and I'm Turkish. I'm here because I love Macedonia (Republic of Macedonia ), Macedonian and I would like to know all about. I think Alexender (Iskender in Turkish) was a Macedonian and Atatürk (Founder and first president of Republic of Turkey) was bord in Thessaloniki (Selanik in Turkish). Turks say: "Atatürk was born in Thessaloniki in Macedonia and Atatürk was a Macedonian type".

    Peace between Macedonia & Turkey.

    Do not be afraid of telling the truth. (Mustafa Kemal Atatürk)
  • osiris
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 1969

    #2
    welcome atesh dont worry about your english just say what you think we are here because we love macedonia.

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    • Soldier of Macedon
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 13675

      #3
      Hi Atesh, welcome to the MTO. Macedonia has a rich history, so you have come to the right place if you intend to explore it.

      Here are some discussions on the forum that you may find of interest:

      Documents on the origin of Mustafa Kemal
      Source: Time Magazine, Monday, Oct. 12, 1953. The TRUTH will be known!


      Ottoman Sultans and the Macedonians
      page 222 The book was published in 1750 but the letter is from the 17th century. There were 3 sultans named Ahmet. Here's a wiki link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_I about Ahmed I who i believe this letter is written to.


      Muslims who have a Macedonian language and identity



      There is much we can learn from you too concerning Turkey and Ottoman history, I am sure your stay here will be very informative for all of us. Don't be shy to express your opinion, especially if it is a topic that you are versed in.
      In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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      • Atesh
        Junior Member
        • Jul 2009
        • 27

        #4
        Thank you SoM and Osiris.

        SoM, I will read that. Thank you for all.
        Do not be afraid of telling the truth. (Mustafa Kemal Atatürk)

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        • Risto the Great
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 15660

          #5
          Hi Atesh, burum.
          I look forward to discussing matters between Turkey and Macedonia with you.

          The first thing is the language differences between Turkish in Turkey versus Turkish spoken in Macedonia. Are you aware of the differences? I have read they were quite different ... but do not know why.
          Risto the Great
          MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
          "Holding my breath for the revolution."

          Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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          • Soldier of Macedon
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 13675

            #6

            Turkish as spoken in Sliven and Šumen has also almost completely lost the infinitive, clearly due to the influence of the Balkan Sprachbund. For example, "I want to write" in several Balkan languages:

            Bulgarian Turkish - "isterim yazayım"
            Standard Turkish - "yazmak istiyorum" where "yazmak" is the infinitive.
            Is this what you're making reference to RtG?
            In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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            • Atesh
              Junior Member
              • Jul 2009
              • 27

              #7
              isterim yazayım and yazmak istiyorum, can be understand in Turkey, because there are many place who poeple say isterim yazayım. Turkish of Turkey can understand Balkan's Turkish, Crimea's Turkish, Caucasian Turkish and Turkmenistan Turkish. (Oghuz branch).
              Do not be afraid of telling the truth. (Mustafa Kemal Atatürk)

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              • Soldier of Macedon
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 13675

                #8
                Atesh, how close is Turkish to the Uralic and Mongol type languages? Do you support the theory of the Altay linguistic group that includes both Turkic and Mongolic languages? One obvious word that Mongols and Turks share is Altan (gold), is it a common word or a loanword from one to another?
                In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                • Atesh
                  Junior Member
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 27

                  #9
                  Turks and Mongol aren't same. Mongol is mongol and turks are turks. Ok Turks & Mongols were lived together but many war between these people. Altay is the start of all turkic, Altay is motherland for many turkic. But Mongols & Turks were same beliefs and have same words.
                  Do not be afraid of telling the truth. (Mustafa Kemal Atatürk)

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                  • Soldier of Macedon
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 13675

                    #10
                    So is it fair to assume then that both Turks and Mongols originally stem from the same cultural and linguistic origins, but developed separately over time?
                    In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                    • Atesh
                      Junior Member
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 27

                      #11
                      We can say that.
                      Do not be afraid of telling the truth. (Mustafa Kemal Atatürk)

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                      • Risto the Great
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 15660

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View Post
                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkan_linguistic_union

                        Is this what you're making reference to RtG?
                        Yep, that was the kind of thing.
                        Risto the Great
                        MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                        "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                        Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                        • Dimko-piperkata
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 1876

                          #13
                          welccome aboard @Atesh
                          btw, atesh means in macedonian "ogon" (fire)
                          1) Macedonians belong to the "older" Mediterranean substratum...
                          2) Macedonians are not related with geographically close Greeks, who do not belong to the "older" Mediterranenan substratum...

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                          • Daskalot
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 4345

                            #14
                            Welcome to our forum Atesh, enjoy your stay my friend!
                            Macedonian Truth Organisation

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                            • Atesh
                              Junior Member
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 27

                              #15
                              Thanks everybody...

                              Yes Atesh (in Turkish: Ateş) means fire.
                              Do not be afraid of telling the truth. (Mustafa Kemal Atatürk)

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