Hi everybody

[Atesh]

Hi everybody, I'm a new member, my english is so bad, but I'll do effort. I'm 18, I live in France and I'm Turkish. I'm here because I love Macedonia (Republic of Macedonia ), Macedonian and I would like to know all about. I think Alexender (Iskender in Turkish) was a Macedonian and Atatürk (Founder and first president of Republic of Turkey) was bord in Thessaloniki (Selanik in Turkish). Turks say: "Atatürk was born in Thessaloniki in Macedonia and Atatürk was a Macedonian type".

Peace between Macedonia & Turkey.

[osiris]

welcome atesh dont worry about your english just say what you think we are here because we love macedonia.

[Soldier of Macedon]

Hi Atesh, welcome to the MTO. Macedonia has a rich history, so you have come to the right place if you intend to explore it.

Here are some discussions on the forum that you may find of interest:

Documents on the origin of Mustafa Kemal

http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?t=457

Ottoman Sultans and the Macedonians

http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?t=918

Muslims who have a Macedonian language and identity

http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?t=172

There is much we can learn from you too concerning Turkey and Ottoman history, I am sure your stay here will be very informative for all of us. Don't be shy to express your opinion, especially if it is a topic that you are versed in.

[Atesh]

Thank you SoM and Osiris.

SoM, I will read that. Thank you for all.

[Risto the Great]

Hi Atesh, burum.
I look forward to discussing matters between Turkey and Macedonia with you.

The first thing is the language differences between Turkish in Turkey versus Turkish spoken in Macedonia. Are you aware of the differences? I have read they were quite different ... but do not know why.

[Soldier of Macedon]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkan_linguistic_union

Turkish as spoken in Sliven and Šumen has also almost completely lost the infinitive, clearly due to the influence of the Balkan Sprachbund. For example, "I want to write" in several Balkan languages:

Bulgarian Turkish - "isterim yazayım"
Standard Turkish - "yazmak istiyorum" where "yazmak" is the infinitive.

Is this what you're making reference to RtG?

[Atesh]

isterim yazayım and yazmak istiyorum, can be understand in Turkey, because there are many place who poeple say isterim yazayım. Turkish of Turkey can understand Balkan's Turkish, Crimea's Turkish, Caucasian Turkish and Turkmenistan Turkish. (Oghuz branch).

[Soldier of Macedon]

Atesh, how close is Turkish to the Uralic and Mongol type languages? Do you support the theory of the Altay linguistic group that includes both Turkic and Mongolic languages? One obvious word that Mongols and Turks share is Altan (gold), is it a common word or a loanword from one to another?

[Atesh]

Turks and Mongol aren't same. Mongol is mongol and turks are turks. Ok Turks & Mongols were lived together but many war between these people. Altay is the start of all turkic, Altay is motherland for many turkic. But Mongols & Turks were same beliefs and have same words.

[Soldier of Macedon]

So is it fair to assume then that both Turks and Mongols originally stem from the same cultural and linguistic origins, but developed separately over time?

[Atesh]

We can say that.

[Risto the Great]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkan_linguistic_union

Is this what you're making reference to RtG?

Yep, that was the kind of thing.

[Dimko-piperkata]

welccome aboard @Atesh
btw, atesh means in macedonian "ogon" (fire)

[Daskalot]

Welcome to our forum Atesh, enjoy your stay my friend!

[Atesh]

Thanks everybody...

Yes Atesh (in Turkish: Ateş) means fire.